About Jon Stewart …

In the big scheme of things what Jon Stewart says about me or what I say about him doesn’t amount to much.  It doesn’t really amount to much in the small scheme of things, either.  But this is the United States of Entertainment, after all, so here goes.

The other night Jon Stewart played a few clips of Bill O’Reilly, Sean Hannity and me, condemning the Left for tarring Tea Party protestors as a bunch of racists, because of what a few people might or might not have said at a rally in Washington.

Stewart said he agreed with us.  Generalizing like that, he said, was wrong.  Then he fired the heavy artillery.  He ran a montage of Fox News commentators making broad generalizations about liberals, including one of me saying that Democrats and liberals think people who live in the middle of the country are a bunch of jerks.

Get it?  We’re condemning generalizations then what do we do?  We generalize about liberals, proving that we’re nothing more than a bunch of right-wing hypocrites.

End of story?  Not quite.

O’Reilly asked me to go on his show and tell his audience what I thought about Stewart’s take.  What follows is a transcript of what I said:

“I am pleading guilty. And that’s a sincere plea of guilty. I said that liberals think people who live in the middle of the country are a bunch of jerks, and obviously all liberals don’t think that. But I will tell you what, an awful lot of liberal elites think that. I worked with these liberal elites for 28 years at CBS News, and they were always throwing around the term white trash, by which they meant poor southerners who didn’t go to Harvard. I’m not sure why that makes them trash. As far as the middle of the country is concerned, you know, this was flyover country where people flew the flag on the Fourth of July and went bowling and ate at Red Lobster. You know, they were a bunch of hicks. But even all liberal elites don’t think that. So I am saying I was wrong, Jon Stewart is right.”

That’s not something you hear on cable television very often.  A commentator saying, I was wrong.  But that wasn’t the end of the story, either.  I then went on to make another point, looking straight into the camera.

“But let me speak directly to Jon Stewart for just a few of seconds, because I know he watches. He is a big fan of the show. And Jon, if you have an ounce of introspection, you may want to take this seriously. If you just want to be a funny man, who talks to an audience that will laugh at anything you say, that’s okay with me, no problem. But if clearly you want to be a social commentator, more than just a comedian and if you want to be a good one, you better find some guts because even though you criticize liberals as well as conservatives, congratulations on that, when you had Frank Rich on your show, who generalizes all the time about conservatives and Republicans being bigots, you didn’t ask him a single tough question. You gave him a lap dance. You practically had your tongue down his throat. And how about those black columnists who play the race card and generalize about Tea Party people being racists? Why don’t you go after them by name and do it with the same passion and gusto that you use when you are going after Fox people? And how about Bill Maher? Bill Maher generalizes about people who go to church being a bunch of dopes. Is there some rule that says a comic can’t go after another comic?

“Here is my final word, Jon, you can do whatever you want. But if you don’t do that [take on your fellow liberals – with gusto!] guess what? You are not nearly as edgy as you think you are. You are just a safe, Jay Leno with a much smaller audience, but you get to say the f-bomb, which gives your incredibly unsophisticated audience the illusion — the illusion — that you’re courageous and that you’re a renegade. But it’s only an illusion.”

No, there’s no big message here.  No great moral of the story.  Slandering the tea partiers as racists is still wrong.  And implying that all liberals think Middle Americans are dopes is wrong too.  But you know what, it’s not nearly as wrong — because, as I said on O’Reilly’s show, way too many liberal elites look down their noses at “ordinary” Americans.  So here’s one more generalization Jon Stewart won’t like:  Liberal elites  think they’re not only smarter and more sophisticated than the kind of Americans who live in Kansas or Mississippi and like to bowl or eat at Red Lobster – they think they’re … better! And if you don’t believe me, just ask those libs.  They’ll tell you how wonderful they are.

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  • nameless

    The more I read these comments, the more I wish liberals would all drop dead and I would celebrate. They should be killed holocaust style.

  • Joshua

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    Joshua says:
    April 21, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    Listen, I’m conservative and proud of it. The majority of youth throughout history tend to favor Liberalism and a world they feel “ought” to be. If the world currently favors you and your own then wouldn’t you also want to keep it that way, hence CONSERVE things the way they are! That’s why I’m a conservative! DUH! What’s worse is that the youth of today, as well as Liberals in general, have people like Jon Stewart on a soap box telling them how to think critically, which is never good for people trying to conserve societal norms. It’s good to know that the youth are easily distracted with consumerism today and will never group together again the way they did in the 60’s, thank God for that, could you imagine how many things they’d really want to change if they did, LOL.
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    Claudia says:
    April 21, 2010 at 8:48 pm

    Joshua,

    So true….however, a thought to ponder…where are those 60’s folks now? Most of us have become part of the Establishment we wanted to change…so did we enact the change we wanted in 1968? History is still sorting that out….
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    Lunchbreak says:
    April 21, 2010 at 8:55 pm

    Yes! Progressiveness is a cancer in the brain! Women shouldn’t vote! Blacks should be slaves! … wait a sec …
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    Joshua says:
    April 21, 2010 at 9:39 pm

    Claudia/Lunchbreak,

    The Liberal Activist Youth of the 60’s changed many things in the good ol’ US of A from education and laws to entertainment and American culture in general. Look, I’m not stupid nor am I ignorant enough to think that the changes involving social justice were happily handed down to them, shoot, many of these activists were jailed or killed for their activism.

    Yes we have become the Establishment, we’re the Good ol’ Boys now, it’s a practical matter of “if we can’t beat em’, join em’”. Yes some issues of the 60’s we’re conceded but only the issues that drew mass activism.

    We’re lucky to know that today, the activism of the 60’s will NEVER be repeated, sure the LIBERALS have “Cyber Activists” who may make a vulgar comment on a message board, but do these “Cyber Activists” shut their laptops and actually march in the streets and demand change for their perceived injustice? Do they even vote in a percentage that matters? The answer is no, they do not and will not, but they are quick to leave “COMMENTS”, LOL, because it’s convenient and all they have to do is “pause” the XBOX for a moment to do so. This is simply the reality of our world today and the youth are too cozy with consumerism to really do anything about it. This is the AGE OF CONSERVATISM : )
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  • James C

    George, may I inquire as to your age? The only reason I ask is this is the kind of stuff I hear from teenagers trying to act tough, but hides behind mommy when the going gets rough.

  • Joshua

    Claudia/Lunchbreak,

    The Liberal Activist Youth of the 60’s changed many things in the good ol’ US of A from education and laws to entertainment and American culture in general. Look, I’m not stupid nor am I ignorant enough to think that the changes involving social justice were happily handed down to them, shoot, many of these activists were jailed or killed for their activism.

    Yes we have become the Establishment, we’re the Good ol’ Boys now, it’s a practical matter of “if we can’t beat em’, join em’”. Yes some issues of the 60’s we’re conceded but only the issues that drew mass activism.

    We’re lucky to know that today, the activism of the 60’s will NEVER be repeated, sure the LIBERALS have “Cyber Activists” who may make a vulgar comment on a message board, but do these “Cyber Activists” shut their laptops and actually march in the streets and demand change for their perceived injustice? Do they even vote in a percentage that matters? The answer is no, they do not and will not, but they are quick to leave “COMMENTS”, LOL, because it’s convenient and all they have to do is “pause” the XBOX for a moment to do so. This is simply the reality of our world today and the youth are too cozy with consumerism to really do anything about it. This is the AGE OF CONSERVATISM : )

  • Martha Trees

    Dear Mr. Goldberg,
    I am a good christian woman that lives in Ennis, Texas and follows The Reilly factor daily. I saw the segment about the back and forth with yourself and Jon Stewart. I’m sorry that you have to go through this nonsense. Mr. Stewart really crossed the line with the show, in particular staff dressed in choir outfits spewing such fowl language. This is not acceptable for anyone…. not even comedian’s. I have already written my opinion to Mr. Stewart. Somehow, I don’t think he cares.

    Sincerely,
    Martha Trees

  • Brendan

    I am a viewer of the Daily Show and I was offended by your comments about the type of people who do watch it.

    • James C

      You were offended by the truth?

    • Komit

      But it’s true and you are a citizen of the United States of the Offended. The type that disregards responsibility to find there inner victim.

  • Big Bad Guy

    Hang in there Bernie, when you are right you can go a long way.
    And you are RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Hey Bernie, I’m going to say something I’ve never said to anyone, “Go F–k Yourself.” You just insulted me and my family and you don’t even know us. We watch The Daily Show because it is funny. If you don’t think its funny then you’re obviously not very sophisticated. Vado futuō, vestri!

    • James C

      Anonymous (who hides his real name) early talks about hypocracy, and now post one of the most unsophisticated insulting immature comments I’ve read. Definately has planks in his eyes and can’t see his own hate and hypocracy.

      • Pete

        Jimmy-Those little red squiggly lines means you are making up words.

    • Komit

      Blah blah blah I get my political opinions from a snarkie rat faced liberal that’s good at turning a phrase as long as its insulting and pointed at a conservative. The tea party he lambasts stands for limited government opposed to Obama doubling our debt in 8 years equal to all presidents before him. Why don’t you try to think for yourself instead of getting your political opinions from a hack like Stewart. You people elected Stewart Smalley.

  • Yousf Ojacf

    Jon Stewart is moron

    • Raymond

      It seems that the teacher that taught you to write complete sentences is a far larger moron. Go back to school and please do not reproduce.

      • Iron Eagle

        Nothing more needs to be said he is a smuck.

        • Pete

          That would ‘schmuck’ sophisticated Fox viewer.

          • One of Stewart’s “unsophisticated audience” members

            And Iron Eagle is a PUTZ, a schmo or a shmo. His choice. Since Bernie’s a Yid, he’ll understand.

          • Iron Eagle

            If you think so my Communist friend,

  • Pete

    At least I can think for myself James.

    The Daily Show is a comedy show on a comedy network. Get it? It’s not news, unlike Fox it does not pretend to be news.

    Unlike Bernie and Bill O, Jon doesn’t pretend to be ‘fair and balanced.’ It’s called satire. I don’t watch the Daily Show to get my news. Like Fox News, I watch Comedy Central purely for entertainment value, but at least Stewart is trying to be funny.

    I laugh with him and at Fox. I would gladly debate any Fox News viewer on political issues of the day.

    • Iron Eagle

      Nobody wants to hear America is bad 24/7 and want the truth that is why FOX is on top right now. You got that Pete!

      • One of Stewart’s “unsophisticated audience” members

        So what you’re saying is that you tune into the Murdoch Comedy Network for daily dose of positive propaganda…?

        There’s an old sayin’, perhaps you’ve heard it…”Just ’cause a million files buzz around a dung heap don’t mean you gotta eat it…”

    • James

      Im a fox viewer and don’t watch MSNBC, lets go if you want to debut

      • Iron Eagle

        James I believe Pete gets his info from keith Olbersmuck, madcow and matthews is my guess…. not saying much

      • Pete

        What are you debuting James?

        • Pete

          Iron Eagle-Clearly you are among the ‘sophisticated’ Fox viewers. I get my news from about 30 sources throughout the day.

          • Iron Eagle

            Pete, I don’t just watch FOX myself but I now when to weed out the B.S. shows like the daily show which is pure crap.

          • Pete

            Its a comedy show, not news. Fox is too, of course, but it sells itself as the real thing, unlike TDS.

        • James

          Ok, I give you choice pick a topic Pete.

          • Pete

            I’m debuting my new screenplay next week.

            Your move Jimmy.

      • Anonymous

        Ha, debut. Solid.

    • Komit

      And you would lose. Your entire rhetoric biased on Maher and Stewart wow what a clown. Sad sad clown. Pete the clown everybody let’s give him a hand.

  • One of Stewart’s “unsophisticated audience” members

    Bernie,

    The reason the negative remarks toward you have become “vulgar and insulting” is quite simple. We have nothing left for you except utter contempt. Stewart doesn’t pretend to be anything more than he is, a comic who lampoons the so called “fair & balanced” cable media, hypocritical conservative politicians and the sycophants who eat your garbage up with a spoon.

    Is the mainstream media fair? No. Is Fox fair. What, are you kidding? But Comedy Central doesn’t pretend to be part of mainstream media, let alone professional journalism. Apparently neither are any of you and I think that’s what is upsetting you when you’re attacked. They’re blowing your cover! Perhaps you folks on Fox would be better served to give up the charade and let everyone else in on the gag. Nah, that might hurt your ratings with your sophisticated viewership. They probably wouldn’t take too kindly to you admitting they’ve been duped by The Murdoch Comedy Network all these years.

  • Anonymous

    I love how you call the Stewart audience “unsophisticated”. That is rude, you are talking to people who just want to get a laugh about whats going on in our country. I’m not going to go to your low level tactics but you want to talk about who is “unsophisticated”. I’m pretty sure it’s not John Stewart who justs makes people laugh, I don’t know why you have a problem with him expressing his political views on television because that should be in your job title. So, I speak for millions of Americans who watch John Stewart, your comments were rude and offensive.

  • Pete

    Bill O’Reilly is moron with an audience of drones who believe his propaganda.

    • James

      I least they can think for themselves Pete

      • One of Stewart’s “unsophisticated audience” members

        What a pity they choose not to, James.

  • Anonymous

    To say that Stewart’s fan crawl out of the sewers is absolutely absurd. I have never been in a sewer and I have never had anything negative to say to you until now; I believe you are both insulting and uneducated. Stewart hosts a comedy show on a comedy network, you however supposedly host news on a news network. Thank you for proving that Fox News is hardly news at all.

  • James

    Jon Stewart is moron with an audience of drones who believe his propaganda.

  • Pete

    1-Liberals live in Middle America too.
    2-Stewart schooled you.

    PS-OT (Torah) God says eating a Red Lobster is a sin and an abomination.

    • James

      You call that foul mouth pre-school act schooling someone?

      • Pete

        Yes I do. (And did).

  • Tom

    Hey Bernie, if you can’t take a joke, stay off the air. You can dish it out, but you can’t take it. If you’re concerned about broadcasters being biased, you show it in a strange way by being on Fixed News. At any time of the day, there is a story on Fixed News about how President Obama and the Democratic Congress are destroying America. However, Fixed News never points out that the people of the nation voted to put Obama and the Democrats in control of Congress. I’m still waiting for Fixed News to broadcast a story that since Obama was elected the Dow is up 3,000 points. While W was in office it plunged. Maybe if you grow a pair you can point that out the next time your handlers let you on the air.

  • LJ

    Individuals who watch Jon’s show do not have a propensity for being unsophisticated. As someone with a PhD, MA, BA and three minors, I find it funny to be called out as “stupid” for watching Jon’s show. Also, isn’t it interesting that Jon was recently ranked as the most trusted news anchor in America. That’s a big kudos to someone who’s not even in the news business.

    • Lunchbreak

      Ayup. He rips on Obama for breaking his campaign promise, on all media outlets for their general incompetence, and on Fox News for being outright spinsters rather than journalists… I love his show, as a registered independent. Humor is universal.

    • Komit

      I believe that’s bernie’s beef here he’s not a news Man but his doltish audience treats his show as news. That’s where he gets the pass he can just play it off as comedy but a significant portion of his audience take was he says as vetted fact. He gets it both ways. And you can line a bird cage with the paper most liberal degrees are written on the most brainwashed leftist loons on the planet are college professors so that self aggrandizement is disposative of nothing.

  • Korey

    Well done Bernie. Whenever your foe resorts to cursing, you win the argument.

    Stewart does not have the ammunition to debate your points, nor do most liberals; because they are facts, so he resorts to cursing.

    Thanks for saying it straight and forward. Keep up the good work.

    Korey
    Montana

  • Luke

    Can’t we all just get along?

  • Steven M

    Hi Bernie- you just don’t get it. We don’t expect you to get it and that’s ok, my dear old friend.

  • Anonymous

    i have no problem with you critising sterwat but to insult his viewers like you did was wrong .am one of those viewers and i can asure you am not a pot head . i like sterwat not because he is a liberal though he is, but because he shows the stupidity that is cable knews granted he targets fox knews more ,but that is because unlike cnn and cmnbc that still pretend to be serious news org , fox has completely abandoned all pretense.

    • James C

      What are you? Six years old? I bet somebody saying “neener neener” or “pants on fire” insults you too! Try growing up for a change!

  • Joshua

    Listen, I’m conservative and proud of it. The majority of youth throughout history tend to favor Liberalism and a world they feel “ought” to be. If the world currently favors you and your own then wouldn’t you also want to keep it that way, hence CONSERVE things the way they are! That’s why I’m a conservative! DUH! What’s worse is that the youth of today, as well as Liberals in general, have people like Jon Stewart on a soap box telling them how to think critically, which is never good for people trying to conserve societal norms. It’s good to know that the youth are easily distracted with consumerism today and will never group together again the way they did in the 60’s, thank God for that, could you imagine how many things they’d really want to change if they did, LOL.

    • Claudia

      Joshua,

      So true….however, a thought to ponder…where are those 60’s folks now? Most of us have become part of the Establishment we wanted to change…so did we enact the change we wanted in 1968? History is still sorting that out….

    • Lunchbreak

      Yes! Progressiveness is a cancer in the brain! Women shouldn’t vote! Blacks should be slaves! … wait a sec …

      • Joshua

        Claudia/Lunchbreak,

        The Liberal Activist Youth of the 60’s changed many things in the good ol’ US of A from education and laws to entertainment and American culture in general. Look, I’m not stupid nor am I ignorant enough to think that the changes involving social justice were happily handed down to them, shoot, many of these activists were jailed or killed for their activism.

        Yes we have become the Establishment, we’re the Good ol’ Boys now, it’s a practical matter of “if we can’t beat em’, join em'”. Yes some issues of the 60’s we’re conceded but only the issues that drew mass activism.

        We’re lucky to know that today, the activism of the 60’s will NEVER be repeated, sure the LIBERALS have “Cyber Activists” who may make a vulgar comment on a message board, but do these “Cyber Activists” shut their laptops and actually march in the streets and demand change for their perceived injustice? Do they even vote in a percentage that matters? The answer is no, they do not and will not, but they are quick to leave “COMMENTS”, LOL, because it’s convenient and all they have to do is “pause” the XBOX for a moment to do so. This is simply the reality of our world today and the youth are too cozy with consumerism to really do anything about it. This is the AGE OF CONSERVATISM : )

  • big rip

    Bernie, you are doing a great job. These idiots wanted change, now we have it. Hard working people are loosing their homes, people getting laid off. Yea, he was the change we needed.

    You go Bernie!!!!!

    • Jared

      What article did you read again?

      • big rip

        The same one everybody in this country read. Another Lefty missing the point. Jon Stewart sits there every night and wants people to think that Fox News never tells the truth. Give me a break. I went from making 200k to 100k and he thinks thats funny. Does he really think that Obama is leading this country in the right direction. Jon Stewart is a fool and a joke. At least he is on the right channel.

        • Jared

          I think you are the one missing the point, my fine fellow.

          He has never stated that Fox News lies to people. He has stated that they are hypocrites and biased against liberals. Where has he stated going from 200k to 100k was funny?

          The rest was pure opinion.

          • shawn

            o boo friggin hoo ur making less money, go cry to somone who cares u bit*h

        • Brian Chandler

          Try watching the Daily show before making idiotic assumptions. I’ve seen Stewart take just as many rips at Obama that he has at fox. Has the Daily show supported Obama before? Sure, when Obama gets something right… has the Daily show insulted Obama before? Of course, whenever Obama screws up (which just happens to be more often). I have also never heard Stewart make a joke about unemployment unless its ripping on people saying it “isn’t a problem” or “its getting better!” nor has he ever said everything fox says is a lie. Hell, if you watched the Daily show ever, the first thing he said was “ok, fox has this right, people should NOT make generalizations about the tea parties based on their most extreme members”. Anyway, before you start making generalized assumptions… do a bit of research on what you’re making assumptions about. Otherwise you make yourself look like an uninformed idiot that has no idea what he’s talking about. Kthnxbye.

          • big rip

            I will bet everyone of you are still living home with Momma or your girlfriend is paying the bills or boyfriend. Oh Sorry, i am suppose to Share the Wealth with you Shawn. Why dont you watch Fox Brian, you might change your mind about it. This is my first time on here and now I see why I dont get on here. But, again he is on the Comedy Channel and that is where you boys belong. TOO FUNNY!!

          • Jared

            I didn’t see anything challenging what he or I said.

            So I guess you must agree to our counterpoints. Checkmate, pal.

          • Brian Chandler

            Again, thanks for making assumptions. I live on my own paying my own bills, but go ahead and make yourself look even more uninformed and irrelevant. And where did i give you any opinions about fox? I was merely defending the weak arguments against Jon, never did i say anything bad about fox. I quoted Jon making insults for the purpose of shooting down your weak arguments, but i didnt’ say anything. Do i typically watch fox news? No i don’t, but thats why i don’t make myself look like an uninformed tool by making idiotic assumptions about it. Again big rip, i’m not asking for you to come up with hard facts and figures, but try not to make assumptions based on your own personal bias if you want your opinion to be taken seriously. If you are representing fox news… then i think you are definitly making them look horrible.

        • Stephen Colbert

          George W Bush is the reason your income went from 200k to 100k. You should thank Obama for preventing it from going to 0k.

          • big rip

            Here we go again. Blame Bush. Colbert you are a Idiot also. How is the President now? This country is going to let everyone know come November. Get ready. Some people are going to have to go back to work!!!! Instead of me paying for it.

          • Jared

            Implying now that now you are the only one that works.

  • M Quick

    Social commentary through comedy has been around much longer than Bernie Goldberg. Does anyone remember George Carlin? What about political cartoons? It just goes with the territory. Bernie is either really bad at what he does or he is simply blinded by FOX News.

    • John D

      But it’s not just “social commentary”. Stewart routinely drops the “comedy hat” to throw out personal insults at individuals. When he does that, he should be fair game to receive criticism. Should he not?

      • Bob

        Yes. Yes he does.

        But maybe more planned and intelligible than the knee-jerk retaliatory we all saw on the media.

      • Lunchbreak

        Educate yourself. Google “Jester”. Read.

      • Brian Chandler

        Jon receives criticism just fine… defending yourself =/= saying “DON’T MAKE FUN OF ME!” Its just like somebody earlier said, when you receive criticism you have 2 choices… ignore it or reply. Jon chose the “reply” route. Nobody is saying they aren’t allowed to criticise stewart… just that if they are going to do it… dont’ do it about being fair and balanced when he has no obligation to do it. Also, the “i’m a comedian” defense was in retaliation to bernie saying something along the lines of “if you are going to be a comedian, then be a comedian, if you are going to do political satire… then do political satire” and stewart saying “i’m a comedian… i do satire THROUGH comedy”. Stewart does satire through comedy because he’s a comedian… His defense wasn’t that he’s a comedian so therefore he is innocent, its that bernie was trying to retaliate against jon for not being fair and balanced when thats fox’s tagline, not stewarts.

        Basically what stewart is saying is… he’s a comedian, he’s not obligated to be fair and balanced. If you want to retaliate against stewart… dont’ start ripping on the fact that he isn’t being fair and balanced or that he’s trying to do comedy… he isn’t OBLIGATED to be fair and balanced, and he is a COMEDIAN… his job IS comedy. He does his comedy through political satire. If you are going to try to rip on stewart, atleast find a legitimate thing to rip on him for.

  • Claudia

    Bernie…

    Here is how this educator with 36 years of experience handles the F Bomb.

    “Thank You for wishing me so much pleasure! I haven’t thought about that in ages!”

    The offending student is shocked long enough to shut up and be sent up to the office, those that got it are roaring in the aisles, those that didn’t get it remind one that there are still ‘innocents’ in the world.

    Now the next time Jon Stewart drops the F Bomb— use my line. What’s his come back? He certainly is not wishing FNC or Bernie Goldberg pleasure….

    Claudia Kerens
    Sparta, Illinois

    • Justin

      What kind of school are you teaching where that shocks students?

      • Claudia

        Justin,

        Students never think teachers have a come back for their need to shock and awe…

  • Faith

    Jon Stewart is an immature Idiot!!!!

    • Bob

      Now that it’s settled, I can go back to protesting against gay marriage.

  • John D

    You don’t think Stewart looked a bit emotional in his rebuttal? I think Bernie really hurt his feelings. Poor guy. :(

  • Brandon

    Comedy Central. Fox News. One claims to be a comedy-based entertainment channel and one claims to be news. Why are the news reporters inserting themselves into the news? I visited this site for the first time as a result of the news and see a big photo of Jon Stewart alongside images of Bernie on Fox News (and only Fox news); it appears to me that the only way Bernie can get on other networks is by calling out a comedian for using an obscenity. If Stewart is just a soft Jay Leno with an unsophisticated audience why do Fox News or Bernie even care what he says? I’m guessing this is the most hits that this website has seen in a long time. Additionally, why does Bernie say that this fight is over, he’s cool with Stewart and then Tweet, “Tune in to O’Reilly tonight” and hear me try to get the last word in this fight. Finally, Bernie Goldberg admits to being a right wing hypocrite – that should be the headline, not this fake slap fight. Bernie Goldberg, who has made a career of slamming the media elite as liberals now admits to being to being the same thing, only for a different cause. Ouch.

  • Jerry

    Danny, you are part of the problem and not the solution. You are an uneducated buffoon and you the typical Stewart fan who is a bottom feeding Liberal who wants everything handed to them.

    • Justin

      Or is part of the problem looking down upon others with elitist snobbery rather than being constructive?

      I don’t know. The lines blur sometimes.

  • Radlax

    One last comment on the brilliance of Bernie’s reporting. He once did a report on Lenny Dykstra, the former baseball player turned “financial guru”, for HBO’s Real Sports. Having been a fan of Lenny’s when he played for the Phillies, it shouldn’t have taken a lot of research to determine that Lenny was really just a con man. Instead, Bernie bought Lenny’s crap hook-line-and-sinker and made things worse by then relying on Jim Cramer, who is more style than substance (just look at Cramer’s prediction last week that the big financial firms were “guaranteed” to come out of the proposed regulation as a winner. Can you say Goldman Sachs?), to verify Lenny’s financial genius.

    Genius, I tell ya. Sheer genius.

  • Jerry

    John Stewart is an idiot looking for ratings. I do believe his viewers are incredibly ignorant to the real world and they think John Stewart is real news. He may seem like he is clever but obviously his vocabulary is severely lacking so he chooses to use the F word in place of words that is not in his vocabulary. Stewart is a typical liberal who thinks everyone should like him, agree with him, agree with the left views and the Presidents radical views. Stewart is a fraud and a disgrace.

    • Justin

      Yeah, I think last night I heard him say “love me, obey me” backwards before going to a commercial.

    • Stephen Colbert

      Didn’t you listen to Bernie when he said how bad it is to generalize?

    • Paul

      John Stewart is an idiot looking for ratings.
      —————–
      trust me. he makes millions and his show has been going on forever.

      I do believe his viewers are incredibly ignorant to the real world and they think John Stewart is real news.
      —————————-
      do you really think people watch him for “real” news?! i watch him for his commentary

      He may seem like he is clever but obviously his vocabulary is severely lacking ——————-

      hahaha

      how many episodes of daily show have you watched? He is waaaay more intelligent that all of Fox people combined.
      oh and his vocabulary is way more extensive than anything on fox news where they simplify everything to “average joe” and they keep saying “people are not that stupid… they understand… etc”
      yeah?! then why you dumb everything down?
      morons…

    • Lunchbreak

      I hate to bring up this point but… I’ve probably seen every Daily Show/Colbert Report episode in the last two or three years, and only a dozen or two of them have been on TV.

      You see, there’s this series of “Tubes”… that doesn’t have a Nielsen box attached to them… and that’s where younger people (and older people who are too busy to tune in at a regular hour) watch their programs.

  • zoso420

    Ignore the hate Bernie. The people posting it are part of the 47% of households that don’t pay any Federal income tax. They will always be slackers and thus drawn to Jon Stewart types.

    • Justin

      True that, Bernie. Just look at this comment:

      Radlax doesn’t pay federal income tax and says:
      April 21, 2010 at 8:25 pm

      One last comment on the brilliance of Bernie’s reporting. He once did a report on Lenny Dykstra, the former baseball player turned “financial guru”, for HBO’s Real Sports. Having been. . .

    • Paul

      didn’t they just do a research about tea party about something just like that?

      oh and by the way, most of stewarts audience is pretty young 24-35 and they likely pay more taxes than fox audience 60+ year olds from the south.

    • Radlax

      I guess that you are completely ignorant of the irony of your comment. Stewart took Bernie to task about making sweeping generalizations (after taking the media to task for doing the same about the tea party movement). So what do you do? Make a sweeping generalization. Since I have a BS in Economics with Honors from Penn State, an MBA from The Wharton School, paid my federal taxes last week and am sitting at my desk at 8 PM on the East Coast completing my work for the day, I guess I’m probably just one of the many that disprove your argument. As for “fact-filled” arguments (which yours is seriously lacking, especially since you give no consideration to the percentage of income paid by lower income individuals in the form of fees, state, county, local, social security, … that cannot be avoided) for you, James C and anyone else, check out my other posts to this site and the Pew Research that I cited showing that the Stewart audiences have one of the highest percentages of college degrees and are among the most well-informed. Same can’t be said of the viewers of those few hours of “news” programming aired by Fox News.

      • Keith Odor-man

        What’s the matter? You couldn’t get into a real business school like Harvard?

        • Lunchbreak

          er… are you really ranking HBS over Wharton?

  • James C

    So many comments by people who’s mentality level is apparently 2 points below plant life. If you don’t get the meaning of this statement, you’re one of them. If you get the meaning of the first statement and identify yourself as one who posted such ridiculous comments, then there’s hope that you can move away up from this mentality plateau and post comments that are meaninful, respectful…..and most of all “fact filled”.

  • laguna Lucy

    Gee Mike, thanks for setting us all straight. I was beginning to wonder what the difference was…. spell check… spell check… spell check…

  • Bill Reiland

    John Stewart … Funny Guy, Bernard Goldberg….Journalist, John Stewart fans, 30% moronic idiots who are polisci major types never paid bills before losers who suck from the teat of the Oboma machime. They cant think for themselves

    • Lunchbreak

      I paid my taxes, I’ve earned six figures, I’m a registered independent, I love Jon Stewart PRECISELY because he mocks hypocrisy. Thinking for yourself (aka: Fact checking) and following O’Reilly does not go together – or that was my revelation 10 years ago.

  • John Robinson

    So, Mr. Goldberg, no conservative comedians can get a fair shake? Drew Carey, self described Libertarian. South Park creators, self described Libertarians. Do you consider Colbert conservative, or is he just another nasty liberal poking fun at you. Then, for the love of God, O’Reilly announces that DENNIS MILLER is going to be on next! Do the two of you REALLY think your viewers are that stupid? Bill, Bernard, let me remind of this story on FOX NEWS!!
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131021,00.html

    • Bill O’Reilly

      Dennis Miller was a raging liberal up until the Iraq war… do you really believe he would have had the success he has had if he was an outspoken conservative his whole life?

      • John Robinson

        Is he or is he not a conservative?

        • John D

          I agree that some conservative comedians have been given a fair shake. I don’t think there’s any “black list” against conservative comedians. Now conservative ACTORS… a very different story. Unless you’ve WELL established yourself before it was known that you’re a conservative, it’s tough world for them.

          • John Robinson

            Well, the subject was comedians. Actors are another argument :) Again, it’s very easy to create a list of successful conservative and libertarian comedians. Bernard and Bill say they don’t exist because they’re not allowed to. Right before announcing that Dennis Miller is going to be on next! I hope Dennis tore them a fresh one for that blatant lie.

      • Stephen Colbert

        It’s probably not a coincidence that Miller hasn’t been funny since he became a rightwingnut.

        • Stephen

          From one Stephen to another….I love you pal!!!

      • Stephen

        Bill, screw you for making people like my father believe your right wing lies. You, sir, are one of the key players in destroying what the party of Lincoln once proudly stood for. It’s ok to be Republican and if you are, be proud, but EVERYONE should stop watching Faux News. It’s nothing more than a tabloid channel. Why do you think there’s not a Newshounds site for CNN or other news outlets? Why do you think there’s no “OutCNN’d” (Outfoxed). It’s because we know, Bill….and anyone who does their homework knows that too.

        Jerk.

  • laguna Lucy

    its M-O-R-O-N….
    I guess liberals have not figured out how spell check works…. and as long as you are targeting the unsophisticated, this country has its hands full already with the Jon Stewart crowd….

    • Justin

      At least they know what sarcasm is. . .

    • big rip

      Well said Lucy

  • John D

    I’m very much a fan of Bernie’s books and commentary. I also think Jon Stewart is an extremely funny comedian. I was a fan of Stewart’s from way back when he hosted an old MTV show called “You Wrote it, You Watch it”. In this argument, I believe that Bernie wins. No, Jon Stewart has no obligation to be “fair and balanced”, and he’ll use that argument any time someone calls him out for being unfair. But if that’s the case, why does Stewart get a pass when he drops the comedy and starts spreading serious, social commentary? If he can lecture people like Jim Cramer about their character, why can’t others do the same to him? Oh, because he’s a comedian, right? If he’s going to take off the “comedy hat” and lay down a serious insult to someone for being a hypocrite, he should accept being called out on that himself. Don’t hide behind the whole “I’m just a comedian” excuse. Isn’t that “fair and balanced”?

    • John D

      Everyone knows that Jon Stewart doesn’t host a “real” news show. But anyone who thinks that he doesn’t routinely cut the comedy and deliver serious, heartfelt critiques… just isn’t paying attention. When he does that, he drops the “I’m a comedian” shield.

  • Brian Chandler

    A few things… First off, unless thats really Bill O’ Reilly and Stephen Colbert talking.. (which i highly doubt it actually is), how about you stop opening your mouth and making them look bad?

    Second, Jon Stewart was ripping on fox news because their tagline is “fair and balanced” coverage. If you’re going to sell yourself by saying you provide “fair and balanced” coverage, then CLEARLY don’t do that… he has every right to knock you down a few pegs, regardless of whether or not he provides fair and balanced coverage himself. He isn’t making jokes at fox because they are generalizing or whatnot… he’s making jokes at fox because they claim to be fair and balanced, THEN go and generalize in most unfair and unbalanced ways (calling all of the Daily Show fans unsophisticated for example). Also, the defense of Jon saying “he never said he was fair” is a perfectly valid argument. Jon, the daily show, and comedy central ALL make no claims of being a fair and balanced news network. They don’t HAVE that tagline to have to live up to, regardless of what some people’s own personal expectations are (example being “if stewart is going to do news he NEEDS to be fair and balanced…” Thats a personal opinion, it isn’t stated anywhere that a news network has to be fair and balanced… except of course ON FOX).

  • Bill O’Reilly

    My show is on right now and Bernie is going to respond again. Maybe some of you liberals can learn something.

    • Lunchbreak

      Thusfar I’ve learned that you don’t know what you’re talking about. We’re 5 minutes in.

      • Bill O’Reilly

        Thus far I have learned that you are unable to read. My comment was posted at 8:01.

        Bill O’Reilly says:
        April 21, 2010 at 8:01 pm

        • Lunchbreak

          Being in the business, I thought you understood commercial breaks. *chuckle*

          As we’re clear that you’re not Mr. O’Reilly, there’s not much else to say.

  • Hank

    now how can he say he was wrong about generalizing then say this, You are just a safe, Jay Leno with a much smaller audience, but you get to say the f-bomb, which gives your incredibly unsophisticated audience the illusion — the illusion — that you’re courageous and that you’re a renegade. But it’s only an illusion. You are going to take a shot at people watching a comedy network to laugh. you are a terrible excuse of a man to call out viewers of a show like that have some respect.

  • sparky satori

    Sour grapes from all the Fox BeeGees.

    Study after study has illustrated that the most horribly ill-informed and misinformed citizens watch Fox News. That’d be YOUR doing, Bernie. Similarly, study after study has demonstrated that people younger than BG receive more of their news content from JS and SC than any other source. That would ALSO be YOUR doing, Bernie.

    BG: “….as I said on O’Reilly’s show, way too many liberal elites look down their noses at “ordinary” Americans.”

    Citation please? Oh, you don’t HAVE one? Because it’s just the most recent baseless assertion you pulled out of your posterior? Like to just make shit up as you go along?

    Say, you DO have a future with Fox.

    • JD

      What studies? You ask for citations but you didn’t cite these supposed studies. You accuse someone of baseless assertations but you did the same baseless assertation. To generalize any audience is silly there are intelligent people that watch Fox News & Jon Stewart.

      • sparky satori

        Hey JD, is your Google contraption not working? ‘Coz mine takes a whole ten seconds to find both.

        Now do your OWN homework.

  • Matt

    Bernie, you are completely wrong on so many levels. For one thing, I am a Stewart fan and ALSO a political science major. I don’t appreciate you calling his entire audience incredibly unsophisticated. Secondly, I have been on many websites where right wing people make incredibly horrible statements about both journalists and politicians. If you want to debate, try using facts instead of bias.. Oh.. i guess its not really a requirement for FOX.

  • Karen

    Bernie, Bernie, Bernie I am one of the well educated, free thinking, fair minded people who you denigrated for watching Jon Stewart. The difference between you and Jon is that Jon doesn’t have to lie to sell his point of view. Jon is broadminded and and cares for “the least of these”. You sir, are no Jon Stewart. I feel pity for you because one day you will have to answer to a higher power for your unfeeling human condition.

    • Chuck

      My considerably educated sentiments exactly, Karen. Jon’s audience does represent the least of Christ’s brethren. Hell, I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if Jon takes the left hand of the Father at the white throne judgement.

      Hell awaits, Bernie. HELL AWAITS FOR ALL YOU RACIST, POOR-HATING, VIOLENT, HILLBILLY TEA PARTY CONSERVATIVES WHO DON’T PARTAKE OF THE CHURCH OF JON.

      You tell ‘em, Karen.

      • big rip

        Jon Stewart is already in hell, go join him

  • Benjamin Logan Weaver

    Bearnie Goldberg you are a tool for even retaliating in this matter. The only reason you dont find Jon Stewart funny is because of your narrow minded views on all matters. Lets be honest you got your ass handed to you and you didnt know how to react so you tried to fight back and got it handed to you once again in the daily episode on the night of the 20th. I recommend you give up at this point.

  • kawkajun

    You are on a NEWS show (allegedly). There is a lot of news out there today that needs to be discussed seriously. You spend valuable airtime that should be devoted to the extremely pressing events of the day to respond to what some guy on a comedy show said about you? Unfortunately, that is precisely why many folks look to comedy shows and blogs to get information on these topics that mainstream media won’t. If you had any class or integrity as a journalist and any maturity as an adult, you would simply ignore what a comedian says about you. Same goes for the network that employs you.

    Extremely lame.

    KK

    • Anonymous

      true..true

  • Anonymous

    It’s a well-known and well-established fact that Bernard Goldberg is a vile hatemonger who helped “inspire” Jim David Adkisson’s murderous rampage in Knoxville, Tennessee on on July 27, 2008. You can google the details, including the murderer’s own words: “This was a symbolic killing. Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate & House, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book.” Bernie Goldberg is a * scumbag.

    * I posted the above at 6:03 p.m. and it was deleted. I guess in addition to being a vile hatemonger, Bernie is also a coward. Now I have to post this all over the Web. I hope Olbermann again mentions Bernie’s inciteful rhetoric that led to murder.

    • Gregg

      Well “Anonymous”…you say Bernie is a coward???? and you use anonymous? Be careful there you may blow out one of the three brain cells you have left. Geez….You libs make it so easy. We don’t have to call you nuts….you prove it with every breath you take. hahaha

      • John Robinson

        I called Mr. Goldberg a coward much earlier today on this forum. I used my real name. Speak up Gregg.

      • Justin

        Yeah! Don’t be a hypocrite! If you are going to make claims and such, tell us who you are if you are man enough!

        Like Gregg. . . Uhh. . . I guess last names don’t matter, but yeah!

        • Gregg

          Gregg Stephens in South Carolina

          • John Robinson

            Where in SC Gregg? I made it pretty clear where I could be found a few posts ago.

      • hickory

        Excuse me, Gregg: My name is hickory. So what’s the difference anyway? You want my address so your ilk can terrorize my family the way you people do? Joe Klein was right when he used the word seditious with regard to FOX, Beck and Hannity. I heard seditious rhetoric coming out of Limbaugh’s maw today. And Goldberg is cut from the same cloth. Next time Bernie deletes my post, I’ll re-post as hickory.

        • Gregg

          No hickory. I don’t care what your address is. I don’t terrorize anyone. I find this quite amusing. You just prod one liberal, go get your popcorn and watch the show. They will make idiots out of themselves no matter what.

          hahahaha

      • John Robinson

        Let me make it easier.

        John Robinson says:
        April 21, 2010 at 8:33 am

        “In the big scheme of things what Jon Stewart says about me or what I say about him doesn’t amount to much.”
        Quite true. You’re both entertainers and that’s what entertainers sometimes do. Instead, you’ve taken it one step further and labeled me “incredibly unsophisticated” with no more knowledge of me than the the fact that I watch The Daily Show. That makes it personal and does amount to something. Would you say that to someone you’ve never met sitting next to you at a bar? Sir, you have just proven who the self-appointed elite truly is. It is you. I won’t begrudge you your success, but I would be ashamed if it were mine. A bully pulpit from which you label me as “incredibly unsophisticated” is not just hollow, it’s cowardly.

    • Doug McCarthy

      Personal accountability has never been the liberal way of doing things – I simply cite 1) not using your name 2) blamming murder on the so-call inspiration and not the murdered himself. I guess name calling is all you got mister anonymous. Oh wait that’s probably societies fault for dealing you a lousy hand eh?

      • hickory

        No way, José. Call me whatever you like. This ain’t worth getting vandalized over. I made that mistake once already and I know all too well how you right-wingers operate.

        • John Robinson

          Hickory, I appreciate your wariness. So far, I haven’t had the experience of one of these Keyboard Kowboys retaliating. I’m pretty sure I’d be OK though. I hope you are now too.

  • Gregg

    Great job Bernie! You were correct in telling Megan that we would not go to John’s website and say such things. In fact I wouldn’t go to his website PERIOD! The man is a raving idiot and is best ignored. I guess he thinks he is relevant in some manner. he is no more that a fly buzzing around a mule’s behind. Just a nuisance.

  • j.l.

    Yah, I’d sure hate to “resort” to being on Fox News, because nobody watches them. Wait! Most people watch them. “Fox News is considered to be a colossal joke wordwide.” Really? Thanks for the info to back that claim up. And one more thing, professor- What the world thinks doesn’t matter. They’re still the most watched cable news show here, which does matter. Only libs worry about the French think. Nice try, though.

  • Sir Von Lichtenstein

    Going head to head against a skilled comedian, and asking him for “fair and balanced” interviews (as if he were a News analyst!) is very idiotic. We know that in showbiz, which our Newsmedia has become, any publicity is considered to be good publicity. This is either a calculated publicity stunt by Golberg, or an idiotic temper tantrum. I can not decide which.

  • Doug McCarthy

    Bernie,

    I am extremely thankful for your understanding of the political landscape and am embarrassed that these smut mouth individuals, that don’t spend time reading history or reading to learn about issues resort to this sewer rat conduct. Keep up the good work Bernie!!!

    Doug

  • Mark D’Truth

    I have read through several pages of comments Bernie and I am still looking for the “vile and hateful” ones. Perhaps my definitions for vile and hateful are just different than yours. My suggestion to you is if you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen. Stewart has gone after MANY pundits and politicians in his time on the Daily Show. And they had a choice, ignore him or respond. You elected to respond. And in your response you not only criticized Stewart, but you also belittled his audience. Did you expect his audience to just roll over and allow you to insult them just because you’re Bernard Goldberg? Did you think you could call into question their intelligence and level of sophistication and not have them come to your website and retaliate? You brought all of this on yourself because you decided that Jon Stewart needed to live up to FoxPAC’s tagline. Your characterization of his audience’s messages are as inaccurate as the “news” that FoxPAC reports every day. What I think is that you are a thin-skinned pundit who is out of his element. You should wave the white flag and go back to the friendly confines of FoxPAC before some of Stewart’s audience get really “vile and hateful”. From my point of view you are coming off as an authoritarian, ultra-conservative tyrant who’s trying to censure a comedian. You have the audacity to tell Stewart what he must do in order to obtain your consent, as if he needs or wants it, while continuing to mischaracterize FoxPAC’s GOP agenda as being “fair and balanced”. You and your network are a failure. (Was that “vile and hateful” too?)

    • cxt

      Mark

      And speaking as a fan of the show—Jon S show….I don’t recall you–or anyone else in his fan base taking ANY exception to Jon S…what was your term again……ah, yes. “belittling” OTHER people.

      So you, in high peak, decide to post your ire about how BG “belittled” the DAily Show audience, yet are utterly silent about Jon S SOP of “belittlement” of others.

      I can only conclude that you have NO problem with “belittlement”—you only kick when you, personally, feel that you personally have been “belittled.”

      You would make a stronger case and better point if it were not so clearly evident that you only have feelings for others when “the others” are you and your buddies.

      Perhaps, since you now know how it feels and can now relate when somebody “belittles” a fellow human being, you can speak out when Jon S does it.

      Or is that to high a level of “sophistication” to expect of you?

    • Bill O’Reilly

      You sir, need to flock back more than just two pages to see vile comments. The vile comments came after Stewart’s reply last night on his show. The polite comments from the last few hours came from when Bernie was just on fox around 2:30.

    • Eric

      I guess I am not sophisticated enough for you, Mr. Goldberg. I’ll take my six years of military service in the Air Force and walk away.

  • DIANNA

    I guess Fox just got a taste of their own medicine…..they can dish it out….sure can”t take it……there is a lot of hate at Fox….they get the real facts wrong…..people are beginning to realize this…..do not get the country in a hate basis over where in the USA we live…..do not twist the facts…….

  • Sir Von Lichtenstein

    bernie Go F yourself ……hahaha

    • cxt

      Sir Von Lichtenstein

      Although I’m not sure that “Sir Von Lichtenstein” has the right to use either “Sir” or the “Von” ;)

      He/She/It does prove my point rather well.

      But again, I just don’t get the point of crouching behind a keyboard, under a screen-name, from perhaps half a world away and pretending to be a tough guy/gal.

      I just don’t get it.

      Perhaps as a follow-up Sir Lichtenstein is going to pinch a baby, or step on an ant. ;)

      Or perhaps he/she/it is still young enough that “dirty talk” being “naughty” and all is still thrilling?
      Perhaps when Sir Lichtenstein begins to drive and date better uses of their time might be found.

      • Sir Von Lichtenstein

        cxt

        Thank you for your comments. I dont find dirty talk “thrilling’. I am just immature.

        This is all very amusing. All this is a publicity stunt that helps both Stewart and Gordberg. Look. I would not have, in a million years think to look up Bernie Goldberg’s website, but here I am, on his website forum (for the last time I assure you). I wonder how many hits he got on his website today!

        In showbiz– which cable news channels these days are part of anyway– any publicity is good publicity. Some “celebrities” get cought on sex tapes; others throw temper tantrums and pick fights with Comedy Central comedians (absurd!) At the end it is all about ratings, and getting your name out there. Before you know it, this nobody has his/her own perfume line or blockbuster movie or conservative radioshow. We dont care though. We continue to just eat it up. Because it is so darn amusing.

        Now off to US Magazine.

  • Concerned_Citizen

    I’m not really sure if playing a news clip and then making funny faces at the camera makes you a “comedian.” (Seriously, if you haven’t watched The Daily Show, that’s 90% of it – clip, Stewart funny face, repeat.) Let’s not flatter Jon. He’s just another biased commentator – and sees his own faults mirrored in pundits on the other side of the aisle. Key word “pundits.”

    Attacking Fox News Channel for having conservative pundits is pretty stupid. That’s what gets ratings. (Why did CNN hire Eric Erickson?) Those on the Left in the media need to stop fooling themselves that they’re performing a public service – Stewart certainly isn’t. We all know the majority of young people are getting their news from Stewart and Colbert (Pew Research). I don’t care if you’re liberal or conservative, isn’t that scary?

    • Radlax

      Concerned,

      The Stewart/Colbert audiences don’t watch those shows to “get” their news information. They come to the table to watch a satirization of what they “believe”. Now you might disagree with what they believe, but it would be impossible to find much of what Jon does as funny if you had no knowledge of the topic being discussed.

      This isn’t the same as watching “Two and a Half Men” where you can come in as uninformed. For instance, during the health care debate, Jon made fun of the argument of “death panels”. An uninformed viewer: i) would not understand that death panels were being used as an argument by one side of the debate, would not know what was meant by death panels and iii) would not understand the absurdity of the death panel argument in Stewart’s eyes if they did not understand the concept beforehand. Therefore, the jokes would not be funny and he would have failed in his comedy.

      Since you quoted Pew Research, let’s go right to the source. Here’s a link to the Pew Research on how informed self-identified audiences were: http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

      Do you want to guess who was tied with major newspaper web sites for the highest percentage of “High Knowledge Level” audiences? Stewart/Colbert at 54%. O’Reilly scored slightly higher when “High” and “Moderate” are aggregated. And Limbaugh ties Stewart at 79% for “High” and “Moderate” audience.

      In terms of education, Stewart scores once again above-average in terms of the percentage of his audience with a college education at 31% versus the national average of 27%. Here O’Reilly falters, relatively speaking, with only 24% having college education. At least Limbaugh continues to hold his own with 36% of his audience with a college education. But since you brought Pew out as proof for your argument, it would seem that both you and Bernie don’t really know what you are talking about.

      And where is the vaunted Fox News? Bringing up the rear with morning news shows (e.g., Today, GMA, …) at 35% High and 30% Moderate. So if you are really concerned, you should be concerned about those that watch Fair and Balanced Fox.

      • Mark D’Truth

        What a great source! If any of these Bernie fans ever took the time to watch Jon they would know that in order to understand his humor you need to be tuned into current affairs. Perhaps that is why so few of them think he is funny. Am I displaying an elitist attitude? Only if you think someone who is elitist is also someone who is informed. More than once I have seen people with little understanding of a particular topic dismiss it as irrelevant. It is how they validate themselves.

  • ayoung

    Get ‘em Bernie — You are dead-on right about the snobbery of the self-appointed liberal elite. Their smugness wafts across the U.S. like the abrasive ash from an Icelandic volcano.

    • Mark D’Truth

      The ash, like the conservatives imagined smugness and snobbery of the liberal elite, also hasn’t entered the USA.

      • Mia Ping

        Ok; I am so confused. Either we are unsophisticated or self-appointed liberal elite? How do you bend the premise both ways?

        I am surprised to see there hasn’t been an expose on Fox News about how the volcano in Iceland erupting was a Liberal conspiracy.

        Jon Stewart is amazing. Simply amazing.

    • ayoung

      There are certainly many of the liberal elite who one could call sophisticated, the late Senator Patrick Moynihan being a prime example. The elite nature of Senator Moynihan, however, was neither self-appointed nor smug. He was a good, decent, highly-intelligent man of the left without an ounce of condescension. By contrast there are some liberals who are “elite” only because they have made that evaluation of themselves. The self-appointed liberal “elite” are often insulated from opposing points of view in the schools they attend, their workplaces, and their communities, resulting in a rather unsophisticated view of the world, a view driven more by ideology than empirical evidence.

  • cxt

    I like Jon Stewart–I enjoy his show…….however, I really dislike:

    1-His craven “I’m just doing comedy/satire” when he is called out on facts, his ahm…”reasoning”, or his rigor in thinking.

    None of which would be an issue save for the whole “wink-wink” “nudge-nudge” act he does for his political comments pretense of “comedy.”

    If he wants to deal in political speech then he should be held to the same standard as everyone else……”funny” is not an excuse for sloppy thinking, poor reasoning and lack of evidence.

    2-His oft-used stance—again in this case of “I never said I was fair defense (my paraphrase) which essentially means he is not fair–he is aware that he is not fair BUT that is somehow “ok” since he never claimed he was……ah, note to Jon S that STILL means you are being, quite purposely, unfair.

    3-His use of curse words…….telling a guy much older than himself—from the safe distance of his protected studio to “go F himself” is hardly the mark of lion—I seriously doubt Jon S would care to repeat the remark outside of his studio—perhaps to Goldberg face? I would say the chances are between slim and none.

    Sure, we live in a world that is less violent—-but hand in hand with that “safer” world is that people are not really in much danger telling people to “go F themselves” anymore.

    To judge by the giggles and laughter of Jon S audience when he said it, they seemed to be impressed by his using the “F word.”
    Again, I’m not.
    Telling a guy much older than you, from a considerable distance away, from the safety of a protected studio, in nation that has did away with “fighting words” laws years ago, is hardly a feat worth comment, or courage…..intellectual or physical.

    • Radlax

      Really, you think that Jon Stewart would be afraid to tell Bernie to go F himself in person? Why? What would Bernie do? Slap him in the face with a glove and challenge him to dueling pistols at dawn? Come on and get real. We’re talking about Bernie Goldberg here and not Mike Tyson in regards to your comment about “safety”. If you have a problem with Stewart dropping an F bomb, I can understand your point. But you make yourself look really silly when you say that Stewart would be afraid of Bernie and wouldn’t say it to his face. Did you ever watch Stewart’s interview with Jim Cramer? He didn’t become a pussycat when Cramer sat down across from him. He raked him over the coals. There is such a vast archive of the hypocrisy of Bernie out there that if he ever sat down with Stewart again, Jon would turn to the camera a multitude of times and say “Roll tape XX” and show another instance of where Bernie says one thing to defend conservatives but use the same memes against liberals. Bernie’s argument that he was talking about “liberal elites” was such a joke after he got called on the carpet. I guess that Pelosi/Olbermann/Reid/Rather/… then have the same right to amend any remarks that might have insulted conservatives and say that they really meant “conservative elites”.

      • Mark D’Truth

        Jon’s interview with Mark Thune was extraordinary. He never backed down and he had a counter-point for every one of Thune’s talking points. It was obvious that Jon was very well prepared.

  • True Conserative34

    Well I guess since all of the “intellectuals” from the fans of Jon Leibowitz are leaving there derogatory comments then I should leave a retort.
    First of all Bernie people who watch the daily show think that it is funny, edgy and witty because it’s a wannabe comedian making fun of conservatives for the most part. There are writers for the show who write most of Leibowitz’ material so he doesn’t come up with all of that on his own.
    Second Bernie I don’t care and neither does most of the country what Leibowitz or any of his fans think. I have met a lot of people that think that his show is funny and it’s only because they are liberals that don’t like Fox News.
    And third the only reason that most liberals hate Fox is because we have a news channel that is not for them and they just can’t stand it! I think its funny and I always laugh when I read comments like the ones above. It’s the same garbage they always spew and it just gets funnier every time I see it! Thanks a lot libs for showing just how much FOX and the conservative movement is getting to you!

    • Stephen Colbert

      We’re not mocking you because you’re “getting to us”, we mocking you because there is no reason to respect you. The Bush/Cheney disaster has exposed you people as ignorant frauds.

    • Radlax

      True Con,

      I’m curious? Why do you refer to Jon Stewart as Jon Leibowitz? He legally changed his name to Stewart. That’s his right in society. I don’t know for a fact all of the reasons. I do know that his parents were divorced at a young age. He wouldn’t be the first to change his last name due to estrangement from his father, if that’s the reason why.

      To phrase my question in a different way, I’m going to assume that your mother had the same last name as your father. She changed it for her own very valid set of reasons. How would your mother have responded if people continued to refer to her as Mary Jones when her last name was Smith. If you’re married and now have the same last name as your spouse, how would you react if whoever is the wife in your relationship was always called by their maiden name. I’m guessing that in both instances you would correct the individual and if they would continue you would tell them to “grow up”. Well, True Con, “Grow up”.

      Second, what is the point about Stewart having writers mean? Do you honestly think that O’Reilly/Beck/Hannity or whoever else that you watch walks out on stage without a script of talking points that they typed themselves? Get real. They employ writers and researchers just like Stewart. The difference is that Stewart employs comedy writers that are paid to write jokes as opposed to writing straight-up talking points.

      Finally, I really don’t care that you have a “news channel” (if that’s what you want to call it) to yourselves. But I am concerned that you are watching programs that do a piss-poor job of properly informing you and that you then get to go out and vote. What’s the basis of my assertion? I have another post here that references a Pew study showing that Fox News viewers are one of the most ill-informed audiences out there. But here’s the link as proof for you to see that Fox News fails to deliver the news http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

      • Mark D’Truth

        It might be harder writing for Beck, Hannity and O’Reilly than it is writing for Jon. Writing comedy is tough, but writing all those LIES must be torture.

  • Craig Philips

    One constant about the liberal blogisphere is an attitude of indisputable superiority of intellect and reason. Those who disagree with the Democratic standard bearers are ill-bred, uneducated, racist buffoons who spend their spare evenings attending Klan rallies or peeing behind the bleachers at Nascar races. Mr. Stewart is the arrogant, smirking personification of the liberal media double standard. It is clear that he believes he is better than those who disagree with him, and he knows it. But Mr. Stewart in fact is merely a master of the snappy comeback, a glib little man offering little depth of analysis who should sport a motley, replete with merry bells. I will admit that, in many ways, I do not have much in common with many of the Tea Party activists. Yet, the current attitude of the Left – wherein they will tolerate no opposing opinion – is indefensible. Reasonable people of all political stripes should come together to vocally oppose the likes of Mr. Stewart and the other masters of double-standard commentary.

  • John Robinson

    “Liberal elites think they’re not only smarter and more sophisticated than the kind of Americans who live in Kansas or Mississippi and like to bowl or eat at Red Lobster – they think they’re … better!”

    Gosh Bernie. Here in Indiana, the bowling alleys have half shut down. There is a phenomenal Cajun joint between my home and Red Lobster called Papa Roux’s. I frequent a pub called the Mass Ave. Pub. It tends to be a hangout for Liberal Elite Firemen. You can tell it must be liberal because Sun King and Oberon beer outsell anything else. Has that plane ever actually landed between “Manhattan and Malibu?” You have a LOT of opinion ‘splainin to do when it comes to the way we all is livin’ out here in the hinterlands. Honestly, a reverse snobbery may actually be worse than overt snobbery. You really have NO clue how the people you defend live, do you.

    • True Conserative34

      Listen buddy I live in Indy too and yes I know all about Mass Ave! Don’t even get started about how you live in Indy and are so sophisticated. I live at 86th and Ditch and I don’t even come close to acting like you do. Do me a favor and next time leave out where you live because you just embarrassed most of us that live here in Indy!

      • John Robinson

        So you would prefer I not describe Indianapolis as it is? I didn’t call myself sophisticated. I certainly didn’t mean to offend you by implying you are. My question remains. Does Mr. Goldberg have even the first clue how the areas and the people he defends really are?

      • John Robinson

        As I pointed out in a much earlier post. I never say or type anything that I wouldn’t say to someone I never met in a bar. You know where I frequent. I’m easy to spot. If you see a black motorcycle or a green one, I’m there. You know my name.

  • BernieWho-QM

    Spitballs at a Battleship??? Really? For a Battleship you really don’t respond with any degree of force or specificity (Perhaps you’re implying you’re so much more popular than Stewart – if so, that IS pretty funny – I’d guess the vast majority of the population has never heard of you before now, but everyone knows Stewart). The bottom line is everyone but Bill O’Reilly knows that Fox is NOT fair and balanced. This is the issue Stewart raises. Responding that Stewart needs to “Man Up” to be fair and balanced makes no sense. Megyn Kelly has the right of it – Stewart makes fun of pompous news personalities (does the shoe fit?) – he could care less about being fair and balanced, nor should he be.

    But is he funny? Heck yeah. And political commentary through comedy is hardly a new thing, Bernie.

    • Bill O’Reilly

      I think by spitballs at a battleship he was referring to Fox being a bazillion times more powerful than Jon Stewart.

  • Bill

    Mr. Bernie

    I respect what you do and I listen to you whenever you are on the various FOX Shows. Stewart is a small person and we should all just let him fade away. He will eventually fall away and his type of humor is low class to boot. Again you have a good message and you are inteeligent about the way you present your views.

    Hang in there and know many of us enjoy your comments and perspective.

    Bill B

    • Mark D’Truth

      You have obviously never watched The Daily Show. Jon Stewart’s humor can certainly be crass, but it is also sophisticated and insightful. Your characterization of Stewart as being a “small person” is accurate in terms of his physicality, but inaccurate in terms of his popularity. I will guarantee you that if you stopped 100 people on the street in ANY city in America, and showed them a picture of Jon, and a picture of Bernie, 90 out of 100 would be able to identify Jon, while 5 out of 100 would know who Bernie is. So if you consider Jon a “small person” because you believe him to be unrecognizable by the average American, then what would you call Bernie, a “microscopic person”?

      • Gordie

        I watch The Daily Show every single day, I am college educated. I find it a little funny that Bernie thinks that generalizing a group of people is how he responds to a criticism about being to generalizing. I find it utterly amazing that Fox News still exists with idiots like Bernie and Glen Beck. Frankly Gerry, Bernie is an idiot. If all of you people who believe that Jon Stewart doesn’t fully research his topics of discussion then maybe you should do some research of your own. The man hosts a fake news show, for the simple purpose of making people laugh. Just listen to one of his interviews sometime. I mean really listen, then tell me how little prepared he is. Time magazine did an article on Jon a few years back which said that there are few, if ANY, actual reporters that are even half as prepared as he is. It makes you look stupid to make a public announcement that someone needs to check their facts and you haven’t even tried. Google works, I’ve tried it. The next time you all want to say that someone who disagrees with your world view it may help you to use some sort of fact checking system before making yourself look even worse.

        • Gordie

          And Jon has been on air since 1999. I’ve watched the show ever since he began hosting it and he has only gotten bigger and more influential. He will not fade away, because too many true Americans who care about their country agree with him.

          • Rachel Madcow

            Does your mom join you in her basement to watch the show with you?

  • Carl Monty

    Jon Stewart is respected both on the left and the right. He may be a poster boy for liberalism, but he is always willing to have a frank discussion with the right. It is a bad idea to attack him, he will make you look bad up and down, left and right with your own words. Be careful, this man is a verbal assassin and you don’t want to be on the wrong side of that, just look at Cramer.

    • Mark D’Truth

      Excellent characterization of Jon Stewart. How would you characterize Bernie Goldberg?

    • hans delbrucke

      Funny thing about the Cramer interview. Stewart raked him over the coals. Less than two weeks later Stewart had Barnie Frank on, and threw softballs at him. Frank had so much to do with the financial crisis we faced and Stewart damn near slipped him the tongue.

  • Burke

    It is true that Bernie will not be able to beat Stewart with Stewart’s own audience, but Stewart’s audience is not even a majority within the minority of what passes for intellectualism within pop culture. What neither Stewart nor his audience understand, is that they are in the eyes of their own left wing elite and the Country Club Socialists of the east coast, just common, simple people. Not even a Harvard Degree can change that. To most Americans, the Ivy League is over rated, the media and press in general are far left of center and about as objective as Al Qaeda, and John Stewart is a simple man.

  • Justin

    I regularly watch the Daily Show, but I just gotta agree with a few above me. By simply responding with your ‘better than thou’ attitude, you simply set yourself up for more comedic criticisms.

    I find it quite literary that his big insult culminated to ‘go f— yourself’ to someone who thinks so highly of himself.

    But really, if you wish to be the bigger man, which is the side you seem to be playing, please just shut up about it. You only besmirch your own reputation by responding.

  • xcxcxc

    Jon Stewart ROCKS. He is the BEST in his class.

  • Marie

    Among other things, Jon’s dance routine (as shown today on the Fair and Balanced Fox News) made me think of a duck squirming around to attempt to get out of the muck! Also, his comments prove he isn’t intelligent enough to produce a program without being crass and crude. You’re right, Bernie, I’m on your battleship – the one that you handle with intelligence and class.

    • the truth

      wow, its C-O-M-E-D-Y, say it with me.

      Did you watch the clip that h originally said go f yourself to?

      It was ‘Bernie’ who claimed that liberal elites certainly would not allow themselves to have mentally challenged offspring. Stewart called him out on this – it is dumb because not only is it NOT true, its dumb because its hard to believe that somebody on TV who has ‘considerable influence’ over individuals would even speak such words.

      You think he is unintelligent? And his audience too?

      People watch that show because it shows how much BS Bernie and Fox News actually throw at people on any given day of the week. I would say that Bernie and his fox buddies are unintelligent – they are nothing more than agents of and for the GOP.

      Fair and Balanced in that they express not only real right wing libertarian views, but also right wing republican views.

      Maybe you need to sit down and think about the crap fox throws at you, you might just have a revelation.

  • Dave

    The problem is, as Linda Ellerbee pointed out years ago, everybody on TV thinks they are important and correct in everything they say and do.

    The key difference here is the method used. For the most part, Stewart uses comedy and Fox uses a sledgehammer. I presume you noticed O’Reilly didn’t agree with you at all – he truly sees himself (and Fox) as fair, balanced and above criticism. Bravo to you, Bernie, for accepting criticism. Unfortunately, you are alone on your network in that regard.

    Two other small points. In your interview with Megyn Kelly, you said you thought those who agreed with you would not write vile things to Stewart. That’s naive and self-serving. The nature of the debate today is there is no middle ground available. You are either with us or against the country. And if you are with us, you have to be sharply critical of those who are not.

    Secondly, both Fox and Stewart are working with friendly audiences. The Foxfan doesn’t want to hear anything nice ever said about the president or anybody who agrees with him. The Stewart fan doesn’t ever want to hear anything nice about those who disagree with the president.

    This is Fox’s doing. They forced the divide to get an audience. We are now seeing the (rotten) fruits of that effort.

  • Tim

    Bernie,

    I’m a huge fan of Jon Stewart, but I give you credit for standing up for yourself. With that said, I have to disagree with your contention that Liberal “elites” are continually looking down their nose at others. Sure, in our society there are folks on both sides of the isle who look down on others. I often hear those on the Right labeling those on welfare as being “lazy”.

    My question for you is this. Why is a liberal who works hard to become wealthy labeled an “elitist” by you, while those who do the same on the Right are considered “hard working American’s”

    • Winston Galt

      The answer Tim, is quite simple. Liberals spend an awful lot of their time pursuing laws and regulations that amount to attempting to protect the population from themselves.

      In other words, “we know better than you, so we’re going to confiscate and spend a huge portion of the earnings of Hard Working Americans on programs that will benefit the greater good (which we the Elite certainly understand and you the Hard Working Americans certainly don’t), and on programs that deal with the inevitable ramifications of your own innate stupidity”.

      Hard Working Americans, on the other hand, spend an awful lot of time working their butts off to improve their own financial status, and will likely choose to spend their own money (not confiscated earnings) to contribute to charitable work they believe in (it’s a proven statistic that conservatives consistently spend a higher percentage of income on charitable contributions than liberals).

  • Bill W.

    Bernie, forget about John Stewart. He is a third class comedian. You are a journalist who has decades of accomplishments.

    Don’t get into a spat with a Stewart, he and his audience are unintelligent tree-hugging liberals.

  • Harvard

    I think you are great and your were right on bout stewart. Keep up the GREAT work you are doing.

  • Gerry Patrick

    Bernie

    I love you but stop opening your mouth about Jon Stewart – you can not beat him at what he does best. He is making you look like an idiot.

    Gerry

  • Berg

    Why in earth is Jon Stewart considered smart?
    Being smart means, or at least is used to mean, get to the correct conclusion based on given facts. As far as I can see, Jon Stewart isn’t doing that.

    • Tim

      Berg, Can you give an example of a conclusion that Jon Stewart came to that wasn’t based on facts?

      • the truth

        better yet, can you give an example of a conclusion that FOX came to that was correct? Based on true facts?

        thought so

  • Chip Matthews

    I am a conservative 35 year old male, and I love the Daily Show and Colbert. Jon is just angry at the ratings that Fox News is getting. If Bernie needs ammo, I have some advice. Use clips the way Jon does. Jon Stewart has done the insult, then run behind the “I’m a comedian” routine before. When Tucker Carlson had Crossfire on CNN in 2004, Jon was on; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQFB5YpDZE
    He gives the excuse that he has puppets prank calling people leading into his show. Unfortunately his show, and the Colbert Report are more relevant than Jon Stewart would ever admit to. Pew Research Center has found his show to be a primary source of news for many young people, an assertion the show’s staff have repeatedly rejected. He continues to hide behind the comedian tag, even as he is irresponsibly representing news to our nations youth. Sure, he did a small token jab at Rachel Madcow, and he has been very critical of the Obama administration on occasion. Or ignore him, but realize that he does have more power than he would even give himself in a creepy hand that rocks the cradle kind of way.

    • Not a hater

      Hi Mr. Goldberg,

      I will begin a Master’s in Journalism program (in Canada btw because it’s hell of a lot cheaper) in the fall and when I was interviewed by the faculty they asked whether I thought Jon Stewart was a journalist or not. I have been asked the same question when I interviewed for an internship position with a magazine. There is a whole class on this issue at the Univ. I will be attending, and while it can be a loaded question, I think the only thing he does on the show that would be considered journalism is the interviews he does. Otherwise he just seems to aggregate Fox stories (which isn’t news is it?) and point out hypocrisies which are quite humorous and dead on.

      I’m an idealistic person who hopes to see the reduction of left vs. right media in the U.S. This is why I don’t watch Fox and why I don’t “get my news” from Stewart.

      Respectfully (up) yours

  • Shannon

    Way to add a little colour to the great discourse Jon!
    Bernie, you are only perpetuating the situation by responding. If Stewart is as insignificant and unsophisticated as his “small audience” then maybe you should refrain from participating in this back-n-forth.

    Just a thought.

    -A Canadian voyeur

  • amanda

    Bernie, I watch The Daily Show regularly, and I deeply resent being called “unsophisticated”. Most of the people who watch that show are anything but unsophisticated, and are often highly educated and intelligent individuals. But intelligent, sophisticated people still know when a good “go f-ck yourself” is due. Fox News is laughable- unintentionally funny, and not remotely in a legitimately humorous way. Fox News doesn’t really need The Daily Show to point out all its shortcomings. You didn’t have to go after Jon Stewart. You obviously think you’re better than he is, and that he’s just a lowly comedian- so why bother? But you, sir, have hung yourself with your own rope. Maybe I’m just generalizing, but people who don’t ‘get’ The Daily Show seem, to me, to be the ones who are unsophisticated.

    • Shannon

      Agreed.
      I think my Harvard educated, Daily Show watching, friends from the south would sourly disagree with your take on Jon Stewart’s fans. :)

      • Joseph

        Agreed. I could not have said it better myself.

        • D-san

          Agreed! It’s odd to me that Bernie and his ilk talk down to Stewart and the Daily Show audience simply because they enjoy some sardonic spin in their news pieces. I’m betting they’re laughing right now because I used the phrase “news pieces,” but that just goes to show how, well, unsophisticated they are. History is rife with comedic figures who have spoken great truths about their leaders and nations, and the people who hearken to those comedians are generally better informed because they have to dig beneath that laughter if they want to find out what’s at the bottom of it all. In other words, the Daily Show audience isn’t spoon-fed liberal tools. Quite the contrary: We know a bad joke when we see one.

    • Chris

      Well said. Also, I find it sad that these washed up individuals (“journalists”) have to resort to being on Fox News, which is, frankly, considered to be colossal joke worldwide. Perhaps not with the Fox people Bernie frequents, but outside of that bubble – definitely.

  • K Banker

    and you’re right, Eric, but it goes the other way as well.

  • K Banker

    Hello,

    I heard this speech and I would like to put it to the public as to whether or not I am unsophisticated.

    – I watch The Daily Show
    – I’m currently employed as an AmeriCorps with the American Red Cross
    – I have a honors BS in Political Science and International Studies
    – I will soon be working on a duel Master of Science and Public Administration
    – I worked as a Director for my Undergraduate Student Government
    – I’m from Arizona

    Am I unsophisticated?

    • http://www.facebook.com/emcmorales GatubelaLA

      You’re going to get a Master’s in dueling???? Dueling and Science and Public Administration. Sounds like a dual Masters. Congrats!

    • Nathan

      Sophisticated…until the fact that you said you were from Arizona…what does that have to do with ANYTHING????

      • K Banker

        they’re all demographics. my location is important when i’m talking about school, but don’t want to reveal much more personal information on a random website.

        i’m getting one master of science degree (MS) while at the same time i’m getting a master of public administration (MPA), this is called recieving a “duel masters”

        • ra

          I think “no comment” is the nicest thing one could say here . . . but I just can’t help it: sophisticated people can spell, or at least spell check.

          The rest can remain unsaid.

        • http://www.facebook.com/emcmorales GatubelaLA

          Oh, sorry! I thought you were getting a “dual” masters. My mistake. Sorry :)

  • Eric

    Bernie is pretty smart in one respect; he’s getting paid a bunch of Google Ads money with all the hits the Daily Show fans are providing to this website.

  • Kiwi

    Bernie Goldberg should not try to go up against Jon Stewart. It’s a fight that he won’t win simply because he is not smart enough.

    I think Bernie is being disingenuous when he says he enjoyed Stewart’s response on Tuesday. Why did say he enjoyed it and then say Stewart is not a real comic. Why would he enjoy being comically eviscerated by someone he doesn’t think is funny. It doesn’t make sense.

    Bernie’s comments on Stewart’s lack of edginess and courage seemed bizarre to me. Obviously, these points had some relevance to Bernie, however, it just seemed like Bernie was trying to hurt Stewart’s feelings. Just really strange!

    Looking forward to round 3.

  • Max

    Jon Stewart is so far out there he should not be allowed in an airport.

  • James M. Corrill, Jr.

    I have to agree with the statement about shared respect between O’Reily and Stewart. I can see why. O’Reily is the only one on the Fox station that I can even stomach to watch. I was rolling on the floor howling with tears in my eyes as I watched Jon Stewart rip Goldberg and Fox News a new one. I had to chuckle when Bernie said that Jon Stewart “thought” he was being edgy. I think even Jon Stewart would be the first to admit that you don’t have to be edgy to point out the fact that Fox news is disingenuous and hypocritical, just truthful.

  • Eric

    Bernie, here’s an easy solution for you and Fox News. Just admit what most people already know, that Fox News is a conservative entertainment channel instead of serious news; then you can compete with Jon Stewart and the Daily Show on an equal footing. This way you can continue to be as biased as you want, and Jon won’t be able to make fun of your beloved Fox News for being a phony news organization and you for being a phony journalist, which you currently are one.

    • Junaid

      Its interesting that it doesn’t bother you that Stewart is taking Fox so serisouly when he won’t spend the same zeal and zest making fun of the Liberal bias in almost all other channels.

      But unfortunately people like you judge “biased” by whether a channel is saying what you like to hear or not. You deserve the mess that media elites have in stock for you. Misinformation and herding the cattel. Go mooo..

      • FightingStupidity

        You can’t blame the exterminators when they have to concentrate on your yard more than your neighbors.

        False equivalence strikes again!

        • Junaid

          You gave the best (and unintentionally ironic) example of False equivalence ever heard… and you are FightinStupidity? :)

  • atretrioeciii

    Face it Bernie, Stewart has you so twisted you can’t even function correctly. In the first instance your should have found clips of liberals generalizing certain things and asked why doesn’t Stewart doesn’t include them, thus proving his hypocrisy. Instead you chose to insult him and his audience.

    You blew it.

    Then what is the first thing you do after his rebuttal? You go on fauxnews and repeat the same mistake again. Making it worse by claiming he is throwing spitballs and that he is irrelevant with a small audience.

    I guess the Time magazine poll naming Stewart the most trusted name in news is also irrelevant.

    He is so irrelevant you feel the need to respond to him?

    You have lost any claim to credibility by taking this approach. It’s time to move on Bernie.

    Your professional jealousy is so obvious and your defense so pathetic that the best thing to do in your situation is to not respond anymore. Because it’s not about the size of an audience, though you wish it to be otherwise, it’s now about how silly you have been made to look just by being yourself.

    You have lost to a COMEDIAN. Just move on to other subjects, if you can. But something tells me you can’t. You have obviously been obsessing over the irrelevant Stewart, and now you can no longer claim to be a journalist.

    You have been scalped by your own words, and you don’t even realize it.

  • Anon

    Love all the comments on here. Some people claim Jon Stewart is a two-bit hack who has no viewership and doesn’t matter in the grand scheme of things. Yet, others claim he’s such a powerful force in the media that he has the power to sway elections.

    Which is it, Conservabots? Is Stewart a petty comedian who is not worth the time or consideration of a wise and respected old fart like Goldberg, or is he a political mastermind of comedy and influence who has a responsibility to not deliver a biased message to his viewers? Pick one and agree on it, because when you argue both you look like fools. But I suppose you’re all used to that.

  • MM in Moorpark, CA

    Bernie, You are a classy delight and an astute & brilliant commentator, but I take issue with your comment about Jay Leno. Leno doesn’t deserve to be compared to the likes of the inane Jon Stewart!

    It’s debatable whether or not Jon Stewart is intelligent, but there is no arguing that Stewart’s lame humor and popularity is symptomatic of the extreme “dummying down” of the American public as a viewing audience, and as a people. Other than the fact that Stewart’s humor is revered by many with the I.Q. of a Chihuahua, if you took away Stewart’s limited, four-letter F and F-ing vocabulary, he would be mute, as well as dumb! The extreme stupidity and pathetic illiteracy of the Stewart fan’s public comments here are hardly surprising. Notice the vast majority can’t spell or punctuate a single sentence. Their mass hostility would be hysterically funny, if it weren’t so profoundly embarrassing.

    Love you! Keep gunning out the truth!

    • Stephen Colbert

      Hey Webster, when did “dummying” become a word?

      • http://www.facebook.com/emcmorales GatubelaLA

        I have it on good authority (from a Linguistics PhD) that that kind of thing is normal, and natural evolution of a language. When did “texting” become a word?

        • Stephen Colbert

          I have it on good authority that “dummying” is not a word, nor is it the result of some sort of evolution of the language. We already have the term “dumbing down of America”, so there is no need to “evolve” new words like “dummying”.

          Beside, MM probably does not believe in evolution.

          • http://www.facebook.com/emcmorales GatubelaLA

            You might look up other words like “partying,” “texting,” and new definitions for “surfing” (as in the internet). There was a time when those weren’t words either… but, whatever :). I have work to do. Have a great day :)

          • ra

            Dummy is a verb, but only in the phrase “dummy up,” which unfortunately is not the opposite of “dummy down” and refers to silence rather than intelligence. But the type of usage is the same, and I don’t think it would be silly to coin that phrase, except that we have the perfectly useful “dumb down” to use instead.

          • FightingStupidity

            “Beside, MM probably does not believe in evolution.”

            I LOL’d. :)

      • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2633089/ Woody Pulps

        Please Google “dummying” and you will find that it is a word. Wait. I’ll do it for you. http://www.thefreedictionary.com/dummying Oops. Now what do you say?

        • Stephen Colbert

          I’d say that that “dictionary” is an excellent example of the dummying down of America.

          • http://www.facebook.com/emcmorales GatubelaLA

            You’re right, Stephen! If you disagree with something, isolate and ridicule! Isolate and ridicule!

          • Stephen Colbert

            What sort of response do you expect to MM’s ridicule packed tirade?

      • Bear

        Nicely put MM. I too hope Bernie keeps gunning out the truth!

  • Here’s a novel thought

    Hey all of you, on both sides: what is the big deal? Don’t like Goldberg? Don’t watch him! Don’t like Stewart? Don’t watch him! Turn off the TV. Read a book. Go bowling. Eat at Red Lobster. Whatever. Just don’t get all apoplectic over this. Reading the responses here you’d think the fate of the nation rests on a couple of guys trying to boost their ratings. Lighten up.

    • http://www.facebook.com/emcmorales GatubelaLA

      Gracias, HANT!
      I was just trying to come up with a concise response to say just that. Here are two guys who have found a sure-fire way to boost their ratings… Bernie said it himself today. This is creating more buzz than the Nuclear Arms Summit!
      There will ALWAYS be people whose frames of reference are so small that this becomes a “real” issue for them (you’ll notice I’m taking the time to write, myself :) There will always be people who get their “chones” on a twist over things like this. I suspect that the vast majority of us see it for what it is… a great ratings booster that capitalizes on the current ideological chasm that divides our country today. The danger is that for a percentage of the viewership who does not filter out the entertainment element, this will only serve to further anger and polarize them.
      See, HANT… you DID say it better than I did :)
      My input? Let’s try to keep the circus in perspective, and keep close tabs on the line between reality and entertainment.

  • One of Stewart’s “unsophisticated audience” menbers

    Bernie,

    The reason the negative remarks toward you have become “vulgar and insulting” is quite simple. We have nothing left for you except utter contempt. Stewart doesn’t pretend to be anything more than he is, a comic who lampoons the so called ‘fair & balanced” cable media, hypocritical conservative politicians and the sycophants who eat your garbage up with a spoon.

    Is the mainstream media fair? No. Is Fox fair. What, are you kidding? But Comedy Central doesn’t pretend to be part of mainstream media, let alone professional journalism. Apparently neither are any of you and I think that’s what is upsetting you when you’re attacked. They’re blowing you cover! Perhaps you folks on Fox would be better served to give up the charade and let everyone else in on the gag. Nah, that might hurt your ratings with your sophisticated viewership. They probably wouldn’t take too kindly to you admitting they’ve been duped by The Murdoch Comedy Network all these years.

    • Junaid

      That is rather naive look at reality.

      Stewart’s show and others like it are nothing but political agenda wrapped around comedy. Which is shameful on one hand and obviously hypocrticial on the other. Pointing fingers at Fox to be biased is not going to fix that. Fox is what it is, a conservative view in oposition of other channels who have clear liberal views.

      Stewart has no balls as he very obviously makes fun of only one side with skits written by liberal writers while purporting to be comedy. Have the guts and own up to your hypocricy atleast, without hiding behind hypocricy of others.

      • John

        Thats because your a conservitive douche bag.

        • Junaid

          and … i am guessing this is the best response you got?

        • Marissa

          And you’re a liberal fool

    • Enrique

      If you think Stewart is just a comedian then you are the one that is being “duped”. Jon Stewart is desperately trying to be a significant social commentator. Unfortunately, for Jon he is unworthy of such esteem and quite frankly is not that funny. I don’t always agree with Bernie Goldberg but I do see Bernie putting some thought into his viewpoint. Unlike Jon Stewart who I am sure worked all day long putting together his reply that simply said. “FU”. Brilliant. Hey Jon go after MSNBC for their “fair” coverage.

      • FightingStupidity

        He does.

        It’s just the case that there are so many more examples of Fox being deserving of his scathing wit. But I understand… just because he highlighted YOUR favorite’s hypocrisy, then that must mean he’s ignoring everyone else’s! It’s everyone ELSE’s fault, right?

        This kind of childish and short-sighted response is precisely why fellows such as yourself get no respect whatsoever The first step towards gaining respect is owning up to the truth.

        Jon Stewart is doing what he has always done: made fun of hypocrisy. If Fox weren’t so ardently insisting that they were Fair and Balanced, he wouldn’t have such a problem with them. Seeing as they do pretend that they are Fair and Balanced, he points out the most prominent examples of when they are proving that claim utterly wrong.

        Don’t blame him just because Fox lies more than everyone else.

        Oh, and when someone accuses you of wanting to kill children with Downs Syndrome, as Bernie did, simply because he disagrees with your views on the economy, then I’d say FU is an appropriate response.

        But you didn’t know that part, did you? ;)

        • Enrique

          I think fightingstupidity is funnier than Stewart. Just read his response.

        • Chuck

          FightingStupidity. Ain’t introspection a b1tch!

  • Jessica

    Making fun of his audience? Really? So insults? “Liberal elites think they’re not only smarter and more sophisticated than the kind of Americans who live in Kansas or Mississippi and like to bowl or eat at Red Lobster – they think they’re … better! And if you don’t believe me, just ask those libs. They’ll tell you how wonderful they are.” Who are these elites? Where is the sign up? You cannot prove someone is something like that. Tea party folks where there outfits and are clear, so it is easy to say they are. So if I am a liberal I am an elitist? You think you are better and you think you can judge everyone. And by the way, you just insulted folks in Kansas and Mississippi since you are implying they are what? Lesser? Oh and you speak for everyone in those states? Fox is not fair and balanced, it is clearly conservative! If you are going to be conservative fine, just admit it! Jon Stewart is dead on and yes, you should be scared of him.

    • DesertRose1960

      Hear! Hear!Good for you.

    • Bill O’Reilly

      wow not one argument what so ever in your entire post. i think fox clearly admits they are conservative jessica

      • Jessica

        Fair and balanced implies that they show BOTH sides. Hence the word “balance.” They do not. I am not trying to make an argument and there is no thesis. This are my comments. Goldberg made no argument either but stated his opinions.

        • Bill O’Reilly

          Every single opinion show on Fox clearly claims they are conservative. Glenn Beck “progressiveism is a disease”. Boy he might be a liberal. Bill O’reilly clearly implies he is a conservative every single night. Sean Hannity has a new book out called guess what.. CONSERVATIVE VICTORY. Do you even watch Fox or just take every word a comedian says as fact? It isn’t like these people are sitting behind desks trying to hide the fact they are conservative. I think it might be Jon Stewart hiding behind a desk trying to disguise comedy for liberal propaganda.

          • Jessica

            Progressives gave women the right to vote, National Parks, child labor laws and such things. Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican and seen by man as the best Progressiveness leader. Progressive does not mean left or right.
            I take no ones word as fact, but rather as an interpretation of how they see the facts. Everyone is biased, you, me, everyone.
            I just question how they claim it is “balanced.” I have yet to hear you agree with that. In fact you are agreeing that they are not.

          • Luke

            So, O’Reilly admits it’s not fair or balanced, yet continues to claim to be? Huh? No wonder his audience is confused.

          • Mark D’Truth

            Then what is the Fox tag line “fair and balanced ” referring to? If the entire network is identified as conservative then how can they possibly be “fair and balanced”. You seem to be defending the network while admitting they are not “fair and balanced” and no one should expect them to be. The fact that Bernie responded to Jon seems to contradict Bernie’s claim about the size of Jon’s audience. Bernie comes off looking like the poor little rich kid who went to play on the wrong side of the tracks and got his linen suit soiled. Jon Stewart is THE political comedian of our time and I GUARANTEE there are more people who could identify Stewart and would know what he does than there are people who know who Goldberg is. Unless you’re a FoxPAC junkie you would have NO IDEA who Bernie is. Stewart would be recognized by the vast majority of Americans because he comments on our political landscape with insight and humor. And I have seen him rip apart many a progressive politician. It’s just that FoxPAC is so EASY. As are most conservative politicians.

    • Junaid

      You think other channels are fair becasue they say what you like? That is the problem with America today.

      There are elites on all sides and don’t tell me there are no liberal elites out there or you haven’t heard or come across one. You seemed very surprised.

      • Jessica

        Junaid, you are right. There are good, smart people as well as nuts on both sides, middle, and everywhere else! If you read other things I wrote, you will read that I take everyone’s word with skepticism. There is no such thing as a person without bias.

  • Berry Oakley

    Joe ,There ARE no other News Networks LIKE FOX ! All the OTHERS are alike .In the tank for the liberal agenda . The best hour in news is Brett Baier at 6:00 PM … Especially his round table segment . No i’m not w/ Fox..I’m an out of work Medical salesman thanks to Obama … And if Stewart is just an entertainer as he says himself why does anyone watch him in the first place since all this buzz is about everything else BUT entertainment ?

    • Joe

      Berry you are right. FOX is NOT a News Network, thus none like it!

      • Berry Oakley

        ummm Joe , check the ratings bro …

        • Mark D’Truth

          What do ratings have to do with Fox not being a news network? Fox news is a Political Action Committee for the GOP. Fox and the rest of MSM act like Fox’s ratings are somehow significant and indicative of America, claiming their high ratings prove that America is conservative. Examining the audience of Fox and the audience of networks that are actually news networks will explain why Fox leads the rest. Fox has only 1 type of viewer, conservative, hardcore conservatives. Where would a hard core conservative go to get their news? They certainly wouldn’t go to CNN or ABC or NBC or MSNBC, they would go to Fox. On the other hand, if you are a moderate conservative, or a liberal, you can go to ABC, NBC, MSNBC, but you certainly would NOT go to Fox. Therefore, Fox has ALL the hardcore conservatives in America, while EVERY OTHER network divides the liberal and moderate conservative audience among themselves. This means Fox will naturally be the leader because EVERY hard core conservative will watch that network. There are 60% of Americans who identify themselves as moderate or liberal, while 40% say they are conservative. So if there are 100 viewers, 40 of them will watch Fox and the other 60 will watch CNN or ABC or CBS or MSNBC. And this is why FoxPAC leads the rest of the real news networks.

          • Bill O’Reilly

            If FOX NEWS is a political arm of the GOP than NBC CNN HLN COMEDY CENTRAL CBS ABC ARE POLTICAL ARMS OF THE democrats.

    • Jessica

      Joe is right. If you look at the actual news hours, most shows that are popular are in the commentary section, not news. Beck and Limbaugh and those folks are entertainers, not news reporters. Yes, there are hours designated as such and FOX posts that. I think you might want to thank Bush, not Obama.

      • Joe_ME

        Berry – Sorry you’re out of work. I’m not an Obama supporter nor a FOX news supporter (wrap your mind around that one lol). Just because FOX takes the extreme opposite opinion from an MSNBC doesn’t make it better, more truthful or fair. They’re all monkeys slinging poop in the cage. Just look to who owns the cage, that is to say corporate ownership, to get an idea of their agenda. You’re being played if you rely on just the mainstream media for info.

        • Berry Oakley

          I’m not ashamed to say i think Fox gets it right MORE often than any other… although i would never form all my opinions from one source . Read Thomas Jefferson’s autobiography ” writings ” from The Library Of America series . This country became great because of people like him . Ive read many of the founding fathers biographys … we need to go back and look at what worked and what didn’t to chart our course for the future .

      • Berry Oakley

        ummm nope …Obama’s taking full credit for ” sweeping change in healthcare ” isn’t he ? He’s been keeping a sixth of the entire economy in limbo for almost two years now . What do you think the result is? Business has ground to a halt just waiting .

      • Bill O’Reilly

        Wow Jessica do you have any brain at all? Limbaugh works for Fox news now??? What time is his show on?????

        • Jessica

          I did not say that Limbaugh works for Fox news. I said that folks like him are entertainers.
          Nor do I use insults in my comments.
          For Berry the health-care bill just passed and none of its reforms have been put into place yet. I am not understanding your timing on the blame or how his being in office caused you to lose your job. However, I am sorry you did and hope that the small signs our economy is coming back will help you.

          • Joe

            I’d say it’s the other way around, Fox works for Limbaugh(‘s agenda).

          • Joe

            This whole thread is too funny! When you actually point out how shameful FOX News is they (or someone shilling) tries to turn the conversation to one about Obama and a left/right paradigm. It’s the tried and true PR tactic of changing the conversation when you don’t like what is being said… my wife does it all the time.

            Berry – Jessica does make a good point. Your loss of work has been building for a very long time and best to look for deep fundamentals in the debt based economy, global banking and money supply as a better possible source.

            Jessica – (I’m not so sure the economy is coming back , wish it was.)

          • Berry Oakley

            HAHAHAH Jessica and Joe … Ive been in this business for over 20 years …i watch the trends like a hawk … I’ll survive on whats left of the healthcare industry ok…. i’m an entrepreneur … make my own way in the world … yes this trend HAS been building or a long time … but the Liberal agenda in congress today is putting the final nail in the coffin so to speak . And the band played on …

          • Joe

            Berry – You are right. The current admin is putting a fork in the turkey but I don’t think your chances would have been any better with a Republican in office. All the spending you see Dems doing would have still happened but instead of money going into healthcare, banks and social reform it would have gone to the military, home land security and banks. It’s not an accident I mention banks in both columns. The house always wins in Vegas.

            This whole thread is about keeping the left (Jon Stewart fans) and the right (FOX Newies) at odds with each other.

          • John

            You are just another conservitive “Douchebag”

          • Joe

            You a banker John? Actually I am independent. You would have picked up on that had you kept reading. Ya see, the left and the right are broken currently. I was “hoping” at one point for “change” to “believe” in… Do you’re own research – take off the left/right sunglasses and follow the money, then follow it some more.

          • Jessica

            Joe, trying to stay positive! It will, all things go up and down. Berry, exactly what agenda are you talking about that directly affected your job?

          • Joe

            Jessica – LOL ok, I’m positive the economy isn’t coming back. If so, then waiting get a job is fools gold. Starting your own business (which it sounds like Berry knows how to do) is what we all need to do. Good ol American know how! That is where the recovery is. Not stimulus money and government programs.

            Here’s a business idea! Start a blog, criticize someone popular like Jon Stewart and sell Google Ads. Oh, wait. It’s been done already. Darn!

      • robert

        have you watched fox and friends?they start the morning off with the days agenda,getting things started on the right(wing)track.like on monday with the whole goldman sachs fraud charges being handed down on friday,claiming and getting the ball rolling on what a coincidence it is that the charges some how might have been filed because of the wall street reform bill.all morning they couldn’t say it enough,coincidence,coincidence,coincidence.and it went on all day long during their so called real news reports.the whole fox news network is nothing more than a commentary section.all the new reporters at fox are in on the conservative agenda.
        as to the bernie and jon thing,im glad that bernie admitted on O’reilly that jon was right about generalizations,but sad to hear he thinks that somehow jon should be fair and balanced.it’s satire people

        • Enrique

          Robert, do you actually think it is a coincidence the Goldman story broke out the week before supposed financial reform is to be announced? Amazing. Fox News is accurate, professional, and desperately needed.
          Jessica, the taxes that are supposed to be collected for the health bill starts now. The benefits start 2014.

          • robert

            no i dont think it’s a coincidence.but to spend all morning talking about “something”that really has no real legs only to give it legs,isn’t what a new’s organization is for.fox and friend’s did this to give the senators and congressmen and the political right the talking points they needed for the day,for their interviews on the news networks,but this is the work of political advisors and such,not news networks.when news networks do this sort of stuff,they are then nothing more than propaganda machines for the right and left wing parties.which is wrong.and all news network’s do this stuff too much lately.

  • The Roving Karl

    Goldberg smacked Stewart down, as usual.

    Which isn’t too surprising. Stewart is a so-so comedian who fled the movies (“Death tp Smoochie,” a truly terrible movie in which Stewart wore a costume shaped like Moe Howard’s hair) propped up by very liberal writers at Comedy Central.

    I work in journalism and the handful of us all agree on “The Daily Show.” One nationally syndicated cartoonist told me he calls it “The Daily Shill.”

    It’s where lazy, knowitall, Obama-supporting liberals (such as Craig Newmark) go for the news.

    • Bill

      Jon Stewart did not wear a costume in Death to Smoochy. All your points are thus negated.

      • Chuck

        Exactly! You damn conservatives. Liars. LIARS. There was no costume, and BUSH KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!

        !!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!! !!! !

        (P.S. I don’t really know if there was a costume, but I’M SURE THERE MUST HAVE BEEN UNTIL A TEA PARTY MEMBER RIPPED IT OFF IN A FIT OF HILLBILLY, RACIST PASSION! Damn you lying, violent conservative hillbillies!)

    • John

      Conservitives once again showing that they have no sense of humor. Jon is a jeaneous.

      • Chuck

        Agreed! Jon is a jeaneous, and those damn racist, jeaneous-hating, hillbilly-ass, lying conservatives are just jelleous. Jelleous, I tell you! And no sense of humor.

        I’d lay odds they even have plans to indoctrinate our kids with dictionaries!

  • TimPundit

    Stewart’s response to this guy was point on and hilarious. It was perfect, and this nutball’s whining about even makes it funnier!

    Faux news really is a disgusting piece of dogsh*t…simply an arm of the Republicans. And Stewart and Colbert and even Fox’s The Simpsons make fun of their glaring unfairness and imbalance, all the time. It’s a freaking national joke, like Eric Massa or John McCain or Senator Widestance. laughingstocks, all of them juts like Faux news.

    The good news is Stewart will still be on tv well into 2012! Good on him!

    • Bill O’Reilly

      Clueless

    • Lyndie

      National joke, yes! But it’s not very funny. People actually believe the Disinformation that comes by way of this so called “fair and balanced”, so called news station.

    • Patrick Herlihy

      No, you’ve got it wrong.. the Republican party is now an arm of Fox News. What Glenn Beck says, increasingly starts to come out of the mouths of Republican leaders. David Frum exposed this (before he was booted out for not sticking to the approved GOP talking points!)

      • Lyndie

        Good point Patrick. Makes it all the more frightening!

    • Chuck

      You have all hit the proverbial nail on the head. Those damn, Tea Party, hillbilly-ass, racist, VIOLENT conservatives have the airwaves locked up with Fox News. What, between Fox News and talk radio, its like ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, and CNN can barely squeeze in a word edgewise. Conservatives are hogging the airwaves, and how dare they take sides with that kind of ubiquity!

      Their violent, racist rhetoric simply must be stopped. At minimum, ‘Fair and Balanced’ should be made an illegal claim unless it means verifiably equal time devoted to very moderate conservative and liberal viewpoints. It must be timed and regulated! Either that, or these people–if you really want to call them that–must be silenced at all cost, especially old hacks with long memories like Bernie with their outmoded understanding of socialism.

      They just don’t understand the good Obama is trying to affect and that that’s why the ultra-educated, entertainment elites like Jon support him. A freaking, freaky national joke indeed. They represent laughingstock conservatives the country over.

  • http://www.WendellVFountain.com Wendell Fountain

    Hi Bernie:

    From what little I know about Jon Stewart, your “spitballs at a battleship” comment seems to be quite accurate. I wish everyone on Fox would just ignore this so-called comedian. You have too much intelligence and class to waste your time with such a low-class, no-class person. I am just about to begin reading your book A SLOBBERING LOVE AFFAIR . . . . My wife, Grace, and I thoroughly enjoy your commentaries on Fox. I might add, she has already read your book and has now passed it on to me. Keep up the great work and ignore the banal barbs of buffoons.

  • Joe

    By the way, how do you get away with calling me a “sewer rat”? Or were you attempting to be funny? Can’t have it both ways. Keep the Fox commentators if you must, but definitely loose the moniker “fair and balanced”!

  • William Carroll

    Come on Bernie……….the guy is a hack, and his opinion doesn’t mean anything to anyone…….

    Nothing more than a David Letterman wannabe…..and not a very good one.

  • Terrie Johnson/Jim Lee

    Mr. Goldberg we are wondering how anyone could find Stewart the least bit funny. He is offensive, crude, lacks as a so called comedian and completely void of class. You have more class in your little finger than he has in his whole body. Stewart could only wish he had any class at all. We support you and watch you on Fox News all the time. We admire you and just wanted to let you know that we stand with you. Bless you.

  • Chris Trail

    I tend to stay away from “comedians” who try to act like they do not have a political axe. I think Jon Stewart is funny. Same for David Letterman, Bill Maher, and shows like Saturday Night Live. However, I think they are a bit sneaky when it comes to their political messages and it turns me off. Anytime they are accused of intellectual dishonesty or bias, they hide behind their sarcasm, make jokes, and/or create f-bomb laden dance sketches. Very clever, but sneaky nonetheless. It’s too bad more of us cannot see through the “I’m just a comedian” loophole they use to spread disinformation and create negative stereotypes for those who they disagree with. The jokes about the liberals are almost always seem “playful” about their mistakes and the jokes against the conservatives are normally “derogatory” to their intelligence and beliefs. I feel the hosts and writers on these shows desperately want to influence people’s political opinions, but are afraid to do so in a serious forum where they can be seriously and intellectually challenged. They prefer instantly approving laughter and applause. That is not, as Bernie put it, “edgy”.

  • Joe

    Hey Berry Oakley – Stewart has never claimed to be anything other than a comedian and in his words a “bad actor”. Please get your facts right (you must be a FOX reporter). Where you are mistaken is that we live in a sad time where the court jesters words ring more true than our so called “news sources”. We know Stewart is the entertainer here… We’re asking for better from our news sources and for networks like FOX to stop all the BS.

    • Bill O’Reilly

      Clueless sheep.

      • Anonymous

        EVIL WOLF!! Yeah, that you 0’3eilly

        • Joe

          humm… not sure what the obtuse comment about “clueless sheep” is referring to. Adds nothing to the dialog but I guess the poster feels better for saying it. Is he referring to FOX viewers? FOX reporters? Agreeing with my post?

        • Bill O’Reilly

          Yeppers I’d much rather the title informed EVIL WOLF than clueless obama loving anything that jon stewart says sticks in my head and stays with me all the way to the voting both and through the tax hikes, and taking money from my wallet and my having to forfeit my leather wallet over to the epa due to the co2 emissions caused by the manufacture of it :((

          • Joe

            Yikes! There is a leap! Who said anything about supporting Obama? I don’t at all. One can be true conservative and still see FOX news as a source of BS. That is a thought that I think many real conservatives should find very liberating.

          • amanda

            Yeah, you’re right, O’Reilly, we’re all a bunch of Obama-loving automatons over here on the left. And Jon Stewart is like a pied piper leading us. Right. So you don’t mind if I hit back (as a clueless sheep), and say that conservatives who believe every ridiculous thing you and Glenn Beck and Hannity say are ignorant fools who, more than likely, do not know how to spell the word “socialism”, let alone give a definition for it.

  • Mike Lee

    Bernie,

    As usual, you are right on the mark…don’t ever stop standing up for what is right and honest and worthwhile. Free Speech is fortunately still alive and well in this country thanks to people like you, and of course that’s what allows Stewart & co. to carry on in the first place. Thanks for taking another stand to point out the truth. You Rock!

    Mike Lee
    Houston, TX

  • Shannon

    Part One: Stewart calls Goldberg out. Part Two: Goldberg tells Stewart he is right and then challenges Stewart. Part Three: Let’s look at Stewart’s response. I’ve seen this behavior more times than I can count over my 20+ years teaching in high school. He couldn’t just answer the challenge. He used a tactic found in the juvenle handbook of bad behavior: GET LOUD, GET PROFANE, GET LOUDER, GET OBSCENE – do anything to take the focus off of the issue at hand. If you can’t “win” the argument, if you are resistant to intellectual honesty – redirect – and make sure you’re the loudest person in the room. Grow up Jon Stewart.

    • Stephen Colbert

      If you think all Stewart did was get loud and profane, you weren’t paying attention. He absolutely eviscerated poor Bernie and Faux News.

      • Shannon

        Hmm….let’s define eviscerate: to remove the entrails from, to deprive of vital or essential parts; to remove the contents of. OK. Where in this supposed evisceration did Stewart answer (respond with clarity and coherence) the challenge Mr. Goldberg presented? I’m sorry Mr. Colbert, it looks like you need to grow up as well.

        • Stephen Colbert

          Watch the video. He responded with clarity and coherence to everything Goldberg said. It was brilliant comedy and social commentary. If you can’t set aside your partisan bias enough to listen to what Stewart actually said, it’s you who needs to grow up.

          • Shannon

            I did watch the video. You, however, did not give me an answer. Can you describe specifically how Stewart answered Mr. Goldberg’s challenge? Apparently you can’t – so you call me partisan. You must be perusing the pages of the juvenile handbook of bad behavior as well.

          • Stephen Colbert

            OK, I’ll spell it out for you. Bernie whined that the media is smearing the tea-baggers as racist. He says that the media should not generalize. Stewart puts together a video montage of Bernie making generalized smears of liberals. Bernie admits that his comments were hypocritical. Bernie then whines that Stewart isn’t being “fair and balanced”. Stewart points out that “fair and balanced” is the motto of Bernie’s employers, and that Bernie is in no position to demand that Stewart conform to Faux News’ standards (which they don’t even follow), and he does so in a manner that is very funny, and exposes Bernie as a fraud.

            Got it?

          • Jean

            Thank you Stephen.

          • Shannon

            Mr. Colbert, you have provided a summary of the initial exchange between Stewart and Goldberg – that is all – your response is a simple attempt to redirect the argument.

            My initial entry pointed out Mr. Stewart’s failure to respond to Mr. Goldberg’s challenge. He disguised this failure with name calling and profanity.

            You have been unable to respond to my critique with facts – the temptation to slip into a diatribe is simply too strong when you can’t argue with facts.

            You quite aptly demonstrate my point concerning juvenile behavior. Thank you.

          • Pete

            ” Part Two: Goldberg tells Stewart he is right and then challenges Stewart.”

            What was the challenge again? To see who could attempt to belittle the other’s audience and career the most? Bernie wins! It’s Comedy Central for cripes sake, juvenile comedy? DUH! Imagine that.

          • Stephen Colbert

            No, I provided a summary of the entire pissing match, including Stewart’s latest entry. I included the substance of what Bernie said, and the substance of Stewart’s evisceration of Bernie’s comments. Those are the facts. You can try to pretend it’s not the facts, but that would be juvenile. Besides, anyone who watches the video of Stewart’s comments can see that you are wrong.

            Given your inability to grasp this concept, I fear for your students.

          • Shannon

            I grasp the subject quite well and am not phased by your insult. Your blustering commentary is actually quite expected. You are no different than Mr. Stewart. Honest debate does not interest you. You just want to be right. You will name call, talk big, and do whatever is necessary to convince yourself that you are.

            Alas, don’t fear for my students. I encourage them to believe what they will – with the understanding that they need to understand why they believe and are able to defend/explain their opinions and beliefs. I also encourage them to recognize when they’re wrong – that true growth results from honest introspection and the courage to change. Finally, I encourage them to respect others who have thoughtful opinions and beliefs that are not in agreement with their own.

            I’m happy to report that I’ve persuaded many who are much like you who just wanted to be right because “I said so”. Those are the students who come back years later and say thank you. Thank you for helping me to be a thinking person.

          • Stephen Colbert

            No, you clearly don’t grasp the subject. I pointed out exactly how Stewart destroyed Bernie’s attack (both of Bernie’s attacks, actually), and you’re trying to pretend that it hasn’t happened.

            Let’s recap:

            Bernie said that liberals are bad to generalize about tea-baggers.

            Stewart showed video of Bernie generalizing about liberals.

            Bernie admitted that Jon was right.

            Bernie then attacked Jon for not being “fair and balanced”.

            Jon pointed out that it’s Bernie who works for the “fair and balanced” network, and Bernie is in no position to be throwing fair and balanced attacks.

            In short, Stewart exposed Bernie as a fraud.

            Meanwhile, you are trying to pretend that none of this took place. If that is how you taught your students to become “thinking people”, they are screwed.

          • Stephen Colbert

            Just out of curiosity, at which community college do most of your students end up? I’d like to make sure we don’t hire any of them.

  • james mueller

    I watch you on Oreilly and look forward to your comments as always on the mark.
    This bit with this jon stewart is almost not even worth your time. He is like his audience, a big kid and immature. And remember that his audience age group of geniuses are the same ones that swallowed Obama’s snake oil promises that are now known to have been just election year promises and that only.
    But confront any “inexperienced youngster” with those facts and they will not even own up to the fact that they got him over the top because they believed everything he said and has now wormed his way out of when confronted about those promises.
    My dad once told mne that liberals react emotionally first and conservatives think it through first before reacting. I think this holds true as whenever I start debating one with the facts they resort to name calling and then I knoe they have lost the arguement.
    Notice how this applies to Jon Stewart…………….
    Keep up the good work holding their feet to the fire Bernie!
    James Mueller in Ohio

  • Luke

    I checked in here after watching BG on Fox today when he said, “you should see all the vile email I’m getting from Stewart fans” … I saw one or two FU’s from Stewart fans and a whole lot of dem bashing from yours Bernie.

    • Bill O’Reilly

      read a little more bud.

      • Luke

        I’m not your “bud”.

  • Michael

    Bernie:

    as John pointed out last night, you, not he, represent a network and a point of view claiming to be ‘fair and balanced.’ his critiques are meant to be funny and attack hypocrisy at the same time. you can’t critique a comedian, or us terrible ‘liberals’ for “generalizing” when you, yourself, and your Fox colleagues, do so on a regular basis, and expect anyone who really is fair-minded to take you seriously. your so-called ‘analysis’ of Jon’s audience, for instance, illustrates your propensity to generalize and, sadly, to do so without many facts at your disposal. you know little, or nothing, about his audience one way or another. you deserved, in that context, what he threw at you.

    as to your analysis of satire and what is edgy, and what isn’t, you likewise have no credibility to comment one way or another. my grandmother is more hip than you. you would be better served to take john’s advice to heart and not generalize yourself about liberals, or better yet, don’t waste our time, or O’Reilly’s, pretending to know much of anything about modern pop culture.

  • Filliam H. Muffman

    All liberals don’t look down their nose at middle Americans. Just most liberals look down their nose at middle Americans. Nice save, Goldberg; No way is Stewart going to have a field day with that kind of factless logic. Just ask a liberal elite!

  • My Mind

    Wow, reading these comments from both supporters and haters has drastically reduced my intelligence, and I regret all of the 3 minutes I spent perusing.

    FOR THOSE OF YOU LIKE ME, who are here hoping to be amused by what should be an epic flame-war, TURN BACK NOW. There is nothing funny or witty to see here, just 2 groups of people who are so incompatible that their conversations don’t make any sense in or out of context.

    I warned you!!!

  • Berry Oakley

    I’m tired of comics and actors trying to sell themselves as experts on anything but comedy and acting . Bill Maher and Stewart know less than most about most things .They are funny until they try to be taken seriously . Comedians are’nt supposed to be taken seriously!! Comics and actors get paid to and are supposed to be talented enough to take us away from our everyday troubles to ENTERTAIN us . When they aren’t talented enough to do that , they try to save ratings by being politically or socially controversial . If your watching Stewart or Maher or Colbert for NEWS and POLITICAL insight .. your NOT serious about it in the first place .

  • andy

    Jon Stewart needs to man up!! You are exactly right Mr. Goldberg and thank you for holding your ground today on the Kelly show. He can hide behind the “just a comedian” bull crap all he wants, it just makes him a bigger coward now that he played that card because I’ve seen him passionately go after senators before on his show and call them out so i know he doesn’t think of himself as “just a comedian”. Everyone should hold themselves to the standard of “fair and balanced”, its not meant for just fox. I applaud you for taking ownership of your own generalizations on the factor the other night, the only thing you did wrong was give Jon Stewart too much credit as a journalist, and that makes me sad because i had a little faith in him too. Now ill never watch him because he’s “just another comedian”.

    • Anon

      So you think Stewart is a journalist? Now that’s a riot.

  • ryusure

    I would guess that the majority of hate mail and vulgar comments are from the Huffington Post people. Your story is on there and those people are hateful when it comes to anything conservative. Right now they’re rounding up a campaign to boycott Geico over their firing a spokesman. He called Freedom Works and left a nasty voicemail about the tea party. They also want all of their minions to call Freedom Works. Believe me, they are sheep!

  • ghettoconservative

    God bless you, Mr. Goldberg. Keep up the good fight my man.

    • Anne

      Ditto

  • Anonymous

    First of all, FOX News is way too easy to make fun of and Bernie Goldberg needs to evaluate his position as a mature newsman. Second, Jon Stewart is a comedian which is a social commentator and since his role is not attack all sides or be fair, really he has just been doing his job. Please Bernie see that you are wrong or at least are being unfair as he is not a news source rather a place for witty humor and commentary poking fun at the mishaps of politicians, news networks, and other aspect of pop culture and he plays by completely different rules {and is allowed to do so}. The role of journalism is to present an information as truthfully as possible with little to no bias — FOX fails at this {the most of any news network} so do others. Jon’s job is to make us laugh. Different jobs, different standards. The news networks just need to recognize that money and ratings are not worth sacrificing the true purpose of journalism. I am educated, intelligent, and fair — I lean to the conservative side and I still find Jon Stewart and his show hilarious. I am no barbarian and even if I was it doesn’t take a monkey to see that you have sacrificed integrity of being a newsman, if I want opinion or commentary I will look at articles, op-eds, comedy or opinion shows, but if I want news, I want news. Don’t insult Jon Stewart or his audience, just perform your job as well as you can and as honestly as you can and be satisfied with the results. You are acting like fickle little 5 year old and Jon is trying to respond with as much grace as possible through the humor that is expected from him. He’s above it, why aren’t you?

    – An Intelligent & Thoughtful Slightly Conservative Leaning Independent

    Also I don’t turn to FOX News when I want news… thought Meghan Kelly today was refreshing, I may actually give her another chance at showing she can be fair and grounded…

    • Bill O’Reilly

      I don’t think you understand the bigger picture sir. I see that you can differentiate between news and comedy but do you really think that most of the 14 – 20 year old kids can? Jon Stewart claims to be only a comedian but he has political power and sway over elections. When you gain this power you HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY to your audience. Fox news viewers know that they are watching conservatives, whereas alot of young people watching Stewart don’t realize Jon’s liberal agenda. They see Obama or some other liberal that Jon “admires” on the show and they think “oh this guys pretty cool because Jon thinks he’s cool”. This is why when Jon goes to war with conservatives it gets so much attention. Young people see this and think “Wow if Jon thinks FOX sucks they MUST REALLY REALLY SUCK.” I realize that you don’t think that fox news is fair or real news or whatever. Fox news delivers the news with conservative opinion because that is what their viewers WANT; hence that is why it sells, for them. Fox is also the only place on TV where it is. If people want liberal spin they can switch to MSNBC or any of the other news networks, yet they do not. If you are going to denigrate Fox for this what do you have to say about NBC? Schultz, Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow, Shuster? The list goes on and on. Ratings wise, its great for both of them. It gets loads of attention all over the place for both.

      • Stephen Colbert

        Wow, you are really piling up the BS. Faux News calls itself “fair and balanced”, but you claim that everyone watching knows it’s biased. Meanwhile, the people who watch Stewart will think he is balanced, even though he makes no such claim. I guess up really is down in the conservative world.

      • Anonymous

        Actually, Bill, I think you are missing the bigger picture, sir. I think it is not necessary for 14-20 year old kids to differentiate between news and comedy, because they are…14-20 year old kids. Conservatives are generally…not. In fact, conservatives are generally the parents or grandparents of said 14-20 year old kid. In most cases, kids at this particularly angsty and rebelious age are going to choose whatever drives their parents (the conservatives) nuts regardless. Also, much like Fox network, who gives a conservative opinion because it’s “what their viewers want”, comedy central knows what its viewers want. I would point out that the lead in to The Daily Show and Colbert are shows like South Park and Ugly Americans, which are far more vulgar and outrageous. Finally, as for your assertion that if people denigrate Fox they should do the same for NBC and people like Olbermann, and Maddow, and Chris Matthews, I would like to point out that I’ve seen a show that makes fun of those people. A show that’s dedicated entire segments taking Olbermann to task for gross generalizations and ugly rhetoric. It’s called The Daily Show.

        • Bill O’Reilly

          You believe comedy central knows it’s viewers want a comedian with a liberal axe to grind? I agree that it isn’t important for 14-17 year olds to differentiate between news and comedy but I think it is very important for the 18-20+ portion of his audience who votes to be able to. I would also imagine the people on here leaving the “go f yourself” comments are most likely in this age group.

          • Stephen Colbert

            I believe that Stewart’s viewers know exactly what his point of view is. So do O’Reilly’s viewers. However, only one of them works for a network that claims to be “fair and balanced”.

      • Yardboy

        “Fox news viewers know that they are watching conservatives, whereas alot of young people watching Stewart don’t realize Jon’s liberal agenda.”

        So, given the conservative agenda of Fox news, which you here admit to, shouldn’t Fox drop the “Fair and Balanced” bs?

  • puckerupAmerica

    Only the ill-informed and naive find Stewart’s piecemeal out of context bits funny.

    • Stephen Colbert

      I’ll bet then I’m better informed than you, and I think Stewart is genius.

      • Lyndie

        Pure genius. Always hilarious lead in with “correspondents” and then an equally hilarious, yet well informed interview! Colbert’s not half bad either :-)

  • Pete

    I watch the Daily Show for laughs and I laughed harder last night than I have in a good while. It’s only funny because it’s true. Fox News Channel is a joke that is not funny at all. Keep up the effort Fox but drop the “fair and balanced” lie, it’s an insult to the intelligence of your viewers.

  • Sean

    Good blog Bernie. I agree with you that Stewart has found himself stuck somewhere between “just being a comedian” and being an actual social/political commentator, which is an area he knows he is grossly lacking any serious credentials. As a result, when he’s called out on it, he lobs F bombs to look like an unfiltered uncensored renegade, just like you said. Just know there are millions of people lobbing verbal bombs of their own right back at him through their television sets in your defense. His show, ironically, has become a joke rather than a comedy like it once was. I’m a former fan – I know of what I speak. Take care, Sean (PS – what’s wrong with Red Lobster? ;-)

  • nannew

    Dear Bernie,
    I’ve got to agree with others on this…you are supposed to be the fair man, the one who tells the truth straight. If you’re willing to slander a lot of people without really understanding them (so-called liberals) you deserve what Stewart gave you and more. It’s criminal in my mind what you and Fox News are doing to this country…we need to be united, not divided.
    Stewart is a comedian…he never claimed to be anything else. He has warned his listeners to seek journalism and news elsewhere. (Unlike Beck, who goes back and forth between being the man who tells the truth and the man just joking around)
    So, man it up, Bernie, and let it go. You’re never going to get satisfaction from Stewart. Why don’t you work on solving problems instead of sensation-generalizing about things you don’t know about? (Oh, yeah, because it won’t pay your bills.)

  • Joe

    Bernie-

    How about looking at this as an opportunity to grow? I am a FOX news watcher/monitor and I have to say “fair” and “balanced” reporting are spasms at best. How can it be fair when the network is admittedly a mouth piece for the conservative? Something I think the FOX shill postings here will disagree with.

    Get a clue, educated people are tired of all the spin from you, FOX, CNN, ABC and all the other networks. We don’t trust you. I don’t have a problem with opinion shows but don’t label it fair and balanced when it’s an “opinion” i.e. bias.

    To claim yourself fair and balanced is to put yourself and FOX on the level with Christ. I think it is that VERY presumptuous positioning is what detractors of FOX have a problem with. It’s the arrogance, cockiness, lack of humility that viewers who are awake find distasteful.

    As for your critism of the Daily Show audience and impact you should do more research (assuming you’re really concerned with being fair and balanced).

    Wikipedia quote: “A more recent survey, released by the Pew Research Center on April 15, 2007, indicates that regular viewers of The Daily Show tend to be more knowledgeable about news than audiences of other news sources.”

    “A 2006 study published by Indiana University tried to compare the substantive amount of information of The Daily Show against prime time network news broadcasts, and concluded that when it comes to substance, there is little difference between The Daily Show and other news outlets. The study contended that, since both programs are more focused on the nature of “infotainment” and ratings than on the dissemination of information, both are broadly equal in terms of the amount of substantial news coverage they offer.”

    “In July 2009, Time Magazine held an online poll entitled “Now that Walter Cronkite has passed on, who is America’s most trusted newscaster?”[93] Jon Stewart won with 44% of the vote, 15% ahead of Brian Williams in second place with 29%.[94] Stewart challenged those results on the show stating “It was an Internet poll and I was the ‘None of the above’ option”.”

    This is just my opinion

    • Civilty needed

      But those polls you sited also said that Tea Party people were more educated than the average American, more successful and understood the issues. He said Rep. Dingle was what men should be made of. Dingle is a disaster and was the guy at the town hall attacking the kid in the wheelchair and his aid was holding hitler signs to make the people that he “represents” out to be crazy. He took a pass. I watch Stewart everyday but the average kid watching is not real up on issues.

      • Joe

        Sorry – my point is that Stewart is the jester and seems to be trusted more than the self proclaimed “fair” news sources. There is something fundamentally broken in mainstream media. Informed people can smell it if not specifically point it out. We have a younger generation coming up that are professional media consumers more so than us old folk and they’re not going to put up with it. Mainstream media is failing them and this country. And yes, FOX is mainstream media contrary to their (Glenn Beck) claims the other way. Just because you disagree with CNN doesn’t make you some how radical.

  • Holly

    I believe Bernie zinged Jon Stewart, and Jon didn’t like that! I have longed watched Jon’s show and think he’s done a great job with his program. In all fairness, I have watched Bernie over the years with CBS and enjoyed his reporting! This time, I am siding with Bernie. BTW: what angry vulgar comments from the public. Shameful!

  • Jim H

    Stewart is a lower IQ version of Bill Maher- how original

  • Anonymous

    jon stewart is nuttier than squirrel turds.

    • Chuck

      That’s it, now Tea Partiers are squirrel racists? You damn, squirrel-racist-conservatives!

  • Jim Elwood

    how old is John stewart, 2 by the response. just because he does not agree with your policial views there is no reason in the world for that especially on national TV. I am by no means a holly roller, but with that kind of response, i will never watch his show. Bernie, good job on what you do, i enjoy your segments on O’Reilly. Tell john stewart to pound sound and grow up. Jim

    • FightingStupidity

      Just out of curiosity, if someone were to imply that you are inclined to kill off children with Downs Syndrome, simply because they disagree with your stance on the economy, how would you respond?

      You’re telling Bernie to keep on being a liar and a reprehensible human being.

      Go you?

  • Vatchula

    What is so funny about a black gospel choir spouting off vulgarities so Jon can make a point of ridicule? Where are all the ‘intelligent’ people to defend morality? I’d like to remind them that some day even Jon will stand before God and be accountable for his actions.

    • Stephen Colbert

      You should worry about your own reckoning.

      The gospel choir was brilliant comedy.

      • Chuck

        Well said, Stephen. Man, you must be the real Colbert. Those damn racist, Tea Party, VIOLENT conservatives should never even open their pie holes about anything on the subject of morality. As anyone with half a brain knows, anyone who advocates morality must never have taken any moral missteps, and it’s a known fact that conservatives do just that!

        It is blatant hypocrisy for them to force us to read their opinions on things moral. BLATANT HYPOCRISY! And they must be silenced.

        Thankfully, it can never be said that we are hypocrites because we deplore moral absolutes of any kind and, therefore, cannot morally support morality. CANNOT MORALLY SUPPORT IT, BABY! Stick that in your pipe, and smoke it Vatchula!

        And by the way, Vatchula, don’t think that either Stephen or I missed that you said “black,” which proves your patent racism and desire to harm to the President.

  • bm hardiman

    Jon Stewart vs. Bernard Goldberg – oh no, Jew on Jew violence (wink)

  • Anonymous

    RE: jon stewart aka “Lord McCluster Farquaad.”

    The depraved and profane separatist racist militant leftist secular progressive liberal survival of fittest Darwinist George Soros and DemocRATs deny GOD and practice virtue. jon stewart is a douche-bag.

    Bernard Goldberg, an absolute genius.

  • stmichrick

    Wow, Bernie…the list of responders here indicate there’s been an anti-Goldberg seminar of some kind goin’ on. If not, you sure have quite a shallow leftist following of your blog that I was unaware of.

    Interesting how few respond to the points you made and immediately go vulgar and insulting.

    Kind of confirms my view of how Maher’s and Stewart’s audiences represents a mindset where being a glib critic of success, traditional values and Republicans will trump reason and reality anytime.

    • Anon

      Yeah, Republicans are totally reasonable

  • Bill O’Reilly

    Dear John Mosley,

    You just addressed John Stewart on Bernie’s site. Keep up the great work!!!

  • CHARLES HARRIS

    I am sorry to have to say this but after reading all these left-wing post I now realize why corporal punishment should be brought back into schools and most definitely homes.

    • Stephen Colbert

      What does corporal punishment have to do with Stewart’s smackdown of Bernie last night?

      • Bill O’Reilly

        Smack down??? I believe Bernie gave the much harder smack down on The Factor. MAYBE, just maybe seeing all of the clips before commenting MIGHT be a good idea?? I don’t know, I have no clue how the liberal mindset works.

        • Stephen Colbert

          Have you watched the clip of last night’s Daily Show?

          You are free to believe whatever you want, but it was pretty obvious to anyone watching from the reality based world that poor Bernie was on the wrong end of a very funny smackdown.

          • Bill O’Reilly

            I watched Stewart’s first opener where he told Fox to f themselves, then Goldbergs response on O’reilly, then stewarts response last night and goldbergs response just a little while ago. I thought Stewarts response last night was ok at the beginning when he fought on merit but a choir jumping around singing go f yourselfs? not much of a smackdown to me

          • Stephen Colbert

            The whole segment was a Bernie smackdown, and funny as hell. There may have been more funny than merit in the gospel choir, but there was still plenty of merit.

          • Diane

            That is the hardest part for me to stomach that chanting the “f” word is funny. We really need to grow up and stop acting like politicians on the campaign trail. Mud is everywhere. He said this, he said that. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. God Bless all the Men and Women who fought and died to give us the right to speak our opinion out loud.

          • Stephen Colbert

            It wasn’t the “f” word that made it funny.

            And the men and women in uniform do a lot of swearing.

  • libertarian nutcase

    It’s all a bunch of counter pumping. Goldy is getting light because of John’s stabs and vise versa. Both of them started to slip off of people’s attention and now their in a back-and-forth cat fight. It’s typical and you John Stewart fans need to shut up. You Bernie Goldberg fans need to get over it, it’s all part of the show. Stewart’s mad that he couldn’t get a real news job and someone, who made appearances in his show, has better ratings (Colbert). And Bernie… well, he’s Bernie. This is just a couple Jewish guys squabbling on TV and it’s sad that people are being distracted by this and not paying attention to real problems. Next time Bernie is on Fox News he shouldn’t say anything and maybe John’s panties won’t be bunched up with jealousy and we can all carry on with what really matters.

  • William M. Gausnell

    Bernie,
    First of all John Stuart only attacks the right, Republicans and the Tea Party Members and not all politicians so is he really a comedian?…I think after listening to him I believe he is just a frustrated individual and whats more I think he is an idiot…anyone that listens to you knows you are smart, educated and a good American, so as far as Stuarts comments are concerned anyone with half a brain realizes what he is…keep up the good work Bernie…we love you
    Bill Gausnell
    Valencia, CA 91355

  • Bill O’Reilly

    The brainlessness of Jon Stewart’s left-wing SHEEP on this website is astonishing to me. The primarlily stoned slackers who watch him and Colbert drooling and waiting for their anti-conservative argument of the day so they can go rant about it on Facebook really makes me laugh.

    SPITBALLS AT A BATTLESHIP BABY

    Stewart devoted OVER HALF OF HIS SHOW TO THIS LAST NIGHT. I love it. Keep up the great work Bernie, Stewart is a nobody!

    • mitch

      But did you see the other half? It was a really good interview / discussion with a Tea Party person. They listened to each other, commented on each others thoughts and were very cordial.

      How often do you see that on Fox, Mr. 0’Reilly

    • http://na wayne vrba

      I am registered Republican, although a distressed one these days.

      Goldberg lost all credibility last Fall when, on the O`Reilly show, he challenged anyone
      to show that on ANY day, Fox has more right-wing speakers than left-wing speakers.
      A laughable contention. What balls !!! As Barney Frank said during one of his many
      successful demolitions of O`Reilly (you have EVERY right to be biased, just don`t
      PRETEND to be otherwise.)

      The indisputable TRUTH is that last week O`Reilly wa proven to be a LIAR.
      The Coburn interview ultimately turned into a lasting catastrophe for O`Reilly, i.e.
      “we researched it senator (jail time for not buying mandated insurance) and your are
      `way off base` on this one, with all due respect.” “It never happened” O`Reilly said.
      The next day, Ed Schultz played a clip with five different Fox contributors saying
      what O`Reilly said “never happened” ….. hannity, napolitano. morris, beck and Greta.
      Two days later, O`Reilly lied about the lie. This is the clear and simple truth !!!
      Would have respected an admission and an apology from O`Reilly — just a bit too
      much arrogance to allow him to “man up”.

      Fortunately there are plenty of hate-addicted fringe right-wingers that are only too
      willing to “drink the kool-aid”. (Keeps the $$$$ coming in, right Bill)

    • Happy to be here

      Wow thats funny, Stewart is a nobody, a Nobody that he chooses to respond to, and appeared On O’reillys show twice. Way to show your not being pestered Bernie, you really showed him. (im being sarcastic by the way). this man has brought more truth then Bernie, and O’reilly any day, Most comedians do, its that old saying “its funny because its true”. You got slap and i know it doesn’t feel good, but hey. what would Jesus do. Come on say it with me
      “turn the other cheek”, because you deserve another smack for getting your feelings hurt. At the end of the day you did the right thing at the beginning, you admitted that you are and still a hypocrite. that was the whole point, and Sir I commend you for that. Now if Glen, and O’reilly and friends could “Man the Hell up” like Bernie did, then Stewart wouldn’t have to constantly save us from your “Fair and balance” statements, which is obviously not the case Fox can’t even admit that they make a mistake without lashing out, because someone call them out of there BS. Its OK not one likes to be caught in a lie, trust me ask our last president. The sad part is, we allowed it, Twice.

      Ps. Oh by the way I hope using the two letters BS is not to vulgar for you, I don’t want to be on the unsophisticated side

    • Magic Dog

      If Stewart is a nobody, what are you doing watching a nobody?

  • Bear

    Even being a “so called comedian” Jon Stewart made a fool of himself with the choir behind him & his foolish jumping around adding to his foul mouth!

    • Stephen Colbert

      Actually, he made a fool of Bernie.

      • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

        Yes, we often see Bernie hopping around doing the Cabbage Patch on National TV. That was the silliest thing ever on TV. Yeah, Bernie is the fool. Colbert’s ratings are right there with old Facts of Life reruns, so you probably thought his bit was a riot as well.

      • Anne

        Who would you rather share dinner with, at a Red Lobster restaurant?
        Someone articulate or someone prone to screaming G@#F!#@#YOURSELF@!!!!!!!!!!!
        I’ll get in line and wait for a table ….you know …with one of those little blinking timer things……….. with Mr. Goldberg.

        • Le Fabe

          I wouldn’t be caught dead at a Red Lobster.

  • Sean Beck

    Hey Bernie,

    I watch FOX, a lot. I sometimes watch The Daily Show.

    You are missing the point or you get the point but you’re so far in the hole you’re looking so very pathetic trying to dig yourself out of it.

    Bernard, Go F*@$ Yourself!

    • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

      So many Liberal Jackasses, so few bullets.

      • Anonymous

        Wow, you really are a big tough cowboy, aren’t you? More like another fat conservative who thinks he’s the only one who knows how to shoot a gun. Keep drinking that Bud and talking about your gun, it doesn’t make you any more of a man. I’d like to meet you in person, we’ll see how tough you are then.

        • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

          I am really shaking bad! Typical of someone sitting at home at his mothers house making idle threats. In fact, I don’t own any guns, Anonymous. I’d meet you anytime any place, but I think you would take it as date invitation and I don’t go that way. Go back to watching Broke Back Mountain and your gun toting cowboy in assless chaps fanatasies, if any ass kicking is going to be done, it will done in November at the polls. Notice Cowboy Lover, I said polls, not poles, so don’t go getting all excited!

          • Anonymous

            Really, that’s the best thing you can do, gay jokes? And not even good ones? Isn’t this the same guy who implied in a previous post that he was too sophisticated for Stewart’s “100 Fart Jokes” brand of humor? Yeah, you’re *way* funnier than he is. See, this is the problem with conservative idiots like you, you’ll unabashedly contradict yourself because you’re not even smart enough to see the irony. Enjoy your failure of a life, you complete and utter waste of skin.

          • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

            Hey clown, I wasted enough time on you, I have other Liberals to abuse on here. I don’t get paid to be funny, so if you didn’t enjoy my jokes, too bad for you cowboy, I am still laughing at your threat to me from previous e-mail….that WAS funny! Failure of a life…another great one. Now you see, that is funny stuff, you will probably have your own Liberal show very soon with the same ratings as Jon and Colbert. Moving on Anonymous clown…see you in November…enjoy your short lived Liberal run while it lasted!

          • Anonymous

            Please keep at it! All you’re doing is making everybody who disagrees with you look smarter (btw, it’s not an “e-mail”, but a “post”, you moron). I point out a blatant contradiction and all you can do is ignore it and imply that you’re somehow “abusing” me with you incredibly un-witty gay jokes. And now I threatened you after your tough-guy-conservative gun comment? I’m just pointing out that you’re a weakling who likes to talk tough on the internet, but it real life has no guts whatsoever. I’m *way* more successful in life than you’ll ever be, and I know that *you* know that, and all the idiotic posting in the world won’t change that. You think that somehow winning in November would make you a winner, but at the end of the day you’ll be the same pathetic loser, no matter what happens.

      • jonjon

        wtf mate!? so few bullets! please say that was just a saying

        • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

          Yes, it was a simple joke. I forgot you can’t do that with Liberals unless it is Jon Stewart doing the “jokin”.

    • Marissa

      People seem to loose manners and IQ points when it comes to discussing any point on the net. Should those who have been so vulgar (Sean Beck for example) had a conversation with you in person perhaps they would have held a civil tongue. At least we can “hope” he/they would have.

      In MY opinion people who choose to watch Maher and Stewart to get ANY valid news or information barely have intelligence above plant life (I do not intend to be insulting to plant life, please forgive me)

      It is apparent both of these individual are comedians and their attempts to get laughs is meant to be entertaining and of no real substance. Envy after all, is knowing you will NEVER be able to acquire what you have always desired. In both of these cases, credibility.

  • John Mosley

    Good for you Jon, you exposed the quirk for what he really is & how he an other Fox reporters abuse news instead of reporting as it is. Where’s Cronkite when you need him? Keep up the good work, you really bring light on the fake wannab’s. “AND THEY’RE AFRAID OF YOU”

    Aloha

    • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

      Another jackass. Here is a fool who thinks CBS and the other slobs are good and fair journalist. A true brlilliant man, Jon Stewart, Go F#ck Yourself. How original, what is he, 13 years old? That shows the mentality of a FEW Liberal college dropouts smoking dope, getting high and actually thinks he is funny who tune into this clown nightly. Here is a fact for you, check out Jonny Boy’s ratings in a great time slot vs ANY show on FOX at any hour of the day. It is little boy Jonny picking on a giant to get attention and try to get his ratings up to at least late night MASH rerun level. What is Bernie afraid of, exactly? Selling thousands of more books? Have another bong hit, lay back on your dirty couch in your mother’s house and wait for Jon and some more silly comedy and then call it a news program.

      • Le Fabe

        OK, we get it, you guys who watch Fox have no lives and just have it tuned on all day long. Whoopedy do.

    • Marissa

      LOL @ “afraid of you”

  • Jon’s mom

    Dear Jon Stewart Leibowitz,
    Certainly you can come up with a better slogan than “go f* yourself”. The anger and venom that you spew out daily must come from your feelings of inadequacy due to your diminutive size. Probably bullied in your youth, you compensate now from your perceived pulpit of power. But we all know what your little problem is, don’t we?

    • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

      Well said, it is all making sense now to me!

  • Iben

    Looks like your post brought out a mice random sampling of the whackjobs on the left…Congrats

    • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

      Amen Iben, I just tuned into FOX to see Bernie and then went on here to see some of these wackjobs for myself. I am having so much fun replying to them all I can’t log off. I am supposed to be outside on my vacation day mowing the lawn and working on my wife’s chore list, nothing getting done so I’ll be in trouble, but this is well worth it.

      • 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue

        Deathangel13…Glad you’re here! I believe the Left is starting to implode and ‘eat their own’. Case in point: Blagojevich. I’m not defending Blagojevich by any means, but what has he done that hasn’t been PROUDLY done in the White House?

        • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

          I have never personally logged on to any site to bother with anyone before today. But, this is a blast. I heard Bernie say the Liberal nuts were out on his site and were in full force, I admit I am a little nutty, so I thought a little humor and replying to the Liberal wackos would make for a great fun filled vacation day. More fun than I could have hoped for!

  • rushjob

    It’s amusing that this Keith person would even use the word “Lord”, since it is most obvious that he does not know who the LORD is.

  • Larry D. Rosenberg

    Keep up the good fight, Mr. Goldberg. Jon (the worm) Stewart is a whining coward that can never compete with you on a mental level. By the way, I love your segments on Fox shows.

    • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

      Bernie is yet another great reason why FOX is KING! Another idiot like Jonny Boy making a fool of himself and helping the FOX ratings even more. Can’t wait for his next book!

  • CHARLES HARRIS

    I think Fox should give Stewart a thumbs up for his rants. When he picked on Mr. Goldberg don’t you think people who do not watch Fox will just to hear his replies? Maybe the smart ones will also catch some of the news as to how Obama ( I will not call him president) is ruining this country and change their train of thought. Honestly I think Stewart does Fox a favor every time he opens his far-left mouth.

    • someone

      excuse me sir, why won’t you call him president? don’t say he cheated… thats not true

  • NavyDoc

    Mr. Goldberg, I would respectfully disagree with your statements today on America Live. You imply that Mr. Stewart’s viewers are uneducated, dim-witted, and social invalids. I am a computer engineer, physician and an officer in the US Navy. Many of my friends and colleagues follow Mr. Stewart’s show for entertainment purposes. My first clue that he is not peddling news, is that it is on the Comedy Channel.

    • LawStudent

      Thank you, NavyDoc; well put.

      • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

        So with all your “education” and military experience, you actually think Jon Stewart is funny? Do you have the Best 100 Fart Jokes Book in your libaray, do you have your patients pull your finger maybe? If you think Stewart is funny, my 9 year old neighbor says the things I listed are hilarious as well, but I am sure you know that as already, Doc.
        P.S. You’ll probably find Married with Children on late night TV hilarious as well.

        • FightingStupidity

          It’s hard to take such statements seriously from someone who doubtless finds Fox News and Bernie Goldberg to be insightful, rather than partisan, ignorant tripe served up to appeal to the lowest level of political understanding.

          Sorry.

          P.S. You’ll probably find that Beck is coming to a rally near you sometime soon. Go learn some more from the genius!

          • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

            Well put FS, Beck is a genious. Show me anything he said in the past few years where he was/is wrong. Absolutely everything he said the last few years regarding The Left and the Obama agenda is 100% on the mark, that is why is so hated by the Left. Thanks for reminding me how late it was getting, Beck will be on in an hour!

          • FightingStupidity

            Beck has said the following:

            1) The government created H1N1, for population control.
            2) The government tried to prevent vaccinations, for population control.
            3) The government are USING vaccinations to kill children, for population control.
            4) The US healthcare system is a nightmare.
            5) The US healthcare system is the best in the world.
            6) The Public Option bill allowed for Death Panels.
            7) Socialism, Marxism, Fascism and Communism are the same thing.
            8) Obama believes in any of the above.
            9) Obama wants to stop people fishing.
            10) Obama wants to increase gun control laws.
            11) The US was founded as a Christian Nation.
            12) He loves his country.
            13) Books from a public library are ‘free’.
            14) Progressives are Communists.
            15) Reagan was fiscally conservative.

            The list could go on… and every item is untrue.

            The fact that some of them contradict the others makes it even more laughable, and shows that Beck changes his claims every time they are debunked, just to have something to peddle.

            Keep drinking the kool aid.

  • BigBernieFanInverse

    “Spitballs at a battleship”. Except in this case, the battleship is the man with his own show: Jon Stewart. Sorry Bernie.

    • dfree

      You call jon stewart’s time on tv a “show”? Seriously, a “show”? A show of what? Ignorant ramblings with sprinklings of inappropriate language does NOT a show make! If you enjoy that “show,” you must not “get out much”! Ha! Ha!

      • FightingStupidity

        The only ignorant ramblings on The Daily Show are the clips of Fox News that are shown to highlight their ignorance.

        Then again, you had no way of knowing this, since it is abundantly clear that you had never watched the show until Bernie tried to raise his profile by attacking it, and are now focused on the use of ‘inappropriate language’.

        Good to know that all you lovers of liberty are so concerned with censoring what can and cannot be said on a show after the watershed, only available on cable.

      • Le Fabe

        WTf else is it? Other than advertising, what ELSE is on TV?

  • No-one important

    Bernie…Did you just try to heckle a comedian? That seems like a rookie mistake for someone who’s been in the public eye for as long as you.

  • http://thelieshavenotimproved.blogspot.com david porter

    Bernie, Bernie, Bernie,
    Jon Stewart is a Comedy show that just happens to also cover the news better than the MSM and Fox News. He doesn’t have to be fair and balanced, he doesn’t even have to tell the truth–it’s comedy and satire, you moron.

    As for your comment that his audience is simple, the stats of his demographic show how inept (or untruthful) you are. They are more educated, more knowledgeable about current events, and have higher incomes than Fox News audience.
    http://www.jamesbeldock.com/2008/08/19/jon-stewarts-audience-bests-npr-listeners-in-current-events-knowledge/

    • Bill O’Reilly

      I feel awfully sorry for you my un-educated liberal friend. Stewart “happens to also cover the news better than the MSM and Fox News”? But then you go on to say he doesn’t even have to tell the truth??? Someone is extremely misinformed. Sorry.

      • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

        Couldn’t have said it better, Bill. The ignorance out of the heads of Liberals never ceases to amaze me. The more they keep talking the better we will do in November.

      • Anonymous

        His point is that even though The Daily Show is comedy, and thus should have no expectation of being “fair and balanced” (and it isn’t), it still does a better job of it than Fox and MSM (even though it’s under no obligation to do so). Do you get it now? As pointed out by David, apparently it’s the Fox fans who are a little on the slow side.

  • No one

    Blonde news anchor is right old fatass wrinkly dude…Stewart is making you a big star. I guess it takes an honest mans spitballs to keep a lying battleship afloat… jackass. Kill yourself plz

    • Alex

      You have serious issues.

      • Alex

        The poster, not you Bernie.

    • dfree

      You’re post name reflects who you are! “No one” describes you perfectly! I hope no one in “no one’s family” has wrinkles. . . What a joke! “Kill yourself”? Now that’s a mature post!!!

      • Bill O’Reilly

        From all of these comments we can see where the real violent behavior comes from, and where it belongs: on the brainless left.

        • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

          Plz go kill yourself?? Fatass? Wrinkles? Did third grade let out early today? Is this what The Left of Liberal Loon Land has come, too? Hilarious stuff.

  • dfree

    Please do NOT use Our Lord’s name in the same sentence with such horrific language! You are so immature, keith!

  • Kate

    Bernie, It’s like this, John WHO???, lol! I’ve never even heard of this clown until Fox had him on their show. Reading his fan’s posts to you, I now see why. I don’t watch meaningless shows, where the host has to rip F-bombs to be “cool”. He and his fans are clearly where they belong – beneath us! They open their mouths or emails and it’s crystal clear for the everyone to see…

    • david

      First of all Kate, this John WHO??? isn’t the anchor for some 1-in-the-morning MTV clip show. Millions of people watch him every day. Also, isn’t that pretty elitist? “he and his fans are clearly where the belong – beneath us!” Its not exactly religious for someone to say that someone else is BELOW them. Please just try to let intelligence play as much a role in your words that emotion does.

    • http://sunsetauthor@AOL.com Nancy Powell

      You hit the nail, Kate. I could not have said it better and am a retired news reporter. Bernie is one of the reasons I watch O’Reilly. My thanks to Bill and Fox for bringing another wonderful talent aboard Cable’s best network for both hard and entertaining news. Bernie is part of the cream. Is John angling for a job? Sorry, John. You lack the quality and good taste. Stay with your own kind.

      • Anonymous

        John Stewart can only hope to climb to the lofty heights achieved by the great Nancy Powell and her kith and kin…

      • FightingStupidity

        “Bernie is part of the cream.”

        Your taste buds have become damaged in your old age.

  • Alex

    Bernie,

    Jon Stewart is a funny guy but there is no doubt he’s gone far left in the past few years. Why don’t you ask him why he isn’t criticizing Obama for using the Goldman Sachs fraud as a fundraiser for himself on google by spinning it off as some right wing conspiracy when in actuality Goldman Sachs contributed one million dollars to Obama’s Presidential Campaign. Why doesn’t he return that fraudulently earned money back to Goldman Sachs I wonder? As for Stewart why don’t you just run a bunch of clips where Stewart claims to be neutral (aka fair and unbalanced). I assure you, there are plenty.

  • dfree

    WOW! How long did it take you to develop THAT sentence, “Joh”? Your lack of education is only surpassed by your obvious lack of an intelligent vocabulary! You’re pathetic!

  • theDudeinLA

    Wow…way to generalize.

  • AtheistConservative

    The best thing about liberals is they think they’re smart, then they open their mouths and disprove their own beliefs.

    They really think “Go f**k yourself” is some hilarious, incisive commentary. Because they’re children.

  • Bob

    Here goes Bernard Goldman again…whining because someone said something about him didn’t like. Whining because CBS saw what a low class journalist he is. Whining because most people are smarter than he is and he knows it.

    Tomorrow, Bernard Goldman will be back on TV whining about how people don’t like him and milking the victimization for all it’s worth.

    Of course, Mr. Goldman, along with the RACIST teabaggers, love to be victims.

    • http://www.myspace.com/eldredgeaftermath Deathangel13

      Your a jackass. You are the type of idiot who actually wastes a 1/2 hour of your day watching a joke like Stewart and then saying he is a true great journalist and newsman. You probably think fart jokes and Married with Children are true comedy. Where did Bernie ever say he was the victim, clown? People do like Bernie, look how many books he has sold, enough said. Put down your Playgirl Magazine and The Best of Fart Jokes book and get a life. CBS..are you serious? I bet you have a picture of Dan Rather on your mantle right by a picture of Andrew Dice Clay. CBS defines low class journalism as their ratings attest to daily. Bernie milking this, how about most of Stewarts show dedicated to Bernie. Back to my original statement, jou are a jackass.

      • Anonymous

        Actually, it’s “you’re a jackass”. I hope the irony isn’t totally lost on you, but I suspect that it is.

  • Magic Dog

    As a liberal who was born and raised in Wisconsin, and who flies the American flag every day, I say to Bernie Goldberg and Bill O’Lielly and the rest of you wingnut freaks: Fukc you and your patronizing bullsh!t. It’s not your flag any more than mine, and “patriotism” doesn’t mean sticking up for the rich at every turn while sending poorer people to bomb even poorer people around the world.

    Funny about bowling. Goldberg, I am confident that you’ve never seen the inside of a bowling alley, or that you’ve hung out in any Red Lobster joints recently. It’s all a goddam pose for you and your kind. You are a fraud from here to the moon and back.

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    • Anne

      Wow you got a lot out of one answer to a vulgarity emitted by Mr. Stewart! Do foul words always summon the social justice in you? I LOVE RED LOBSTER!!!!

    • mitch

      What is this bowling and Red Lobster crap? I grew up loonieville San Francisco and am so liberal that I moved to Scandinavia during the Clinton years.

      And Yet… growing up The Red Lobster was my favorite restaurant and and I went bowling at least once a week.

      Am I actually a conservative? I had no idea… Guess I gotta start talking crap about science now…

  • Jon from Canada

    As a foreigner, I hope you can work this out (the sacrifice of information for opinion in the media).

    It’s upsetting to watch a once great nation become polarized into two camps and tear itself apart rather than take the best ideas to rebuild itself.

    At least we in Canada have got China to sell our resources to now.

  • Jeff

    I pretty much despise almost all TV pundits, no matter which “wing” they bloviate from. That said, Stewart strikes me as a smug A**h**e.

  • MIKE FROM SD

    My cats breath smells like cat food and……….. GO **** YOURSELF, HAHHAHA

  • Larry Middleton

    Well Written as usual. Amazing they even come to your website to attack you. When some one says the F bomb just say “thank you”. Progressives can atack all republicans and conservatives, they have forever and will continue to do so. Who cares they have proven they hate America and want to live in France. God bless them and I pray for them every night that thye get their wish and move to France. I use St. Anthony’s prayer to grant their wish. They hate Catholics, Christians, Reagan, Bush, Now Jews, Tea Party, and if they only believed in God, they may hate God too. Let those idiots Go! “Serenity is not the absence of conflict, but the ability to cope with it.” You do a great job at all times and do not let the Progressives tear you down.

    • Stephen Colbert
      • Anonymous

        Saint Anthony Prayer? Saint Anthony the finder of lost things? As in amongst other variations “there is something that’s lost that can not be found please Saint Anthony look around”. That’s not going to send any body any where.

        You need to pray to Saint Christopher patron saint of travelers or Saint Joseph patron saint of moving.

        As an end note praying that god sends those you disagree with away sounds very unchristian.

        • Larry Middleton

          Anonymous lots of guts:
          They have lost there way I hope they find it and the miracle is if they do find their way. Very RC.
          Y”Blessed be God in His Angels and in His Saints”
          O Holy St. Anthony, gentlest of Saints, your love for God and Charity for His creatures, made you worthy, when on earth, to possess miraculous powers. Encouraged by this thought, I implore you to obtain for me (request). O gentle and loving St. Anthony, whose heart was ever full of human sympathy, whisper my petition into the ears of the sweet Infant Jesus, who loved to be folded in your arms; and the gratitude of my heart will ever be yours. Amen.

          obviously you do not know the prayer. You are not talking about the same prayer. “forgiveness for the people who use the language and threats”
          Very simple my “A” friend.

      • Larry Middleton

        Watched it 3 times. I could care less about their fight it is the people on here, who if the Tea Party made the same statements. They would be called Timothy Mc. I would not waste my time on people who use the F word. They have nothing to say. I agree with a lot Bernie has to say and I disagree with some things. But I listen. Stewart, I just do not like that kind of Comedy and I have no place for it. He has every right to say what he says but I find it offensive at times. I just do not use that language nor do I listen to it. I wish him success but the people on here are weak and vulgar because there is no comedy. I am not a member of the TParty but I certainly agree with them I do not Trust Washington. They are spending us into the gutter. It began with Bush and it will end with 3x OBama or this country is in big trouble.

        Why are the Progressives so afraid of the T Party that they have to trash them? We are not talking about the Daily Show (non-event), it could be CNN,CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC or almost any newspaper. They loved us College Students during Viet Nam. Boy we burned down buildings and served in Viet Nam. Praised us as protestors and trashed us as Baby killers. Make sense to me. We were one and the same.

  • BernieSux

    First off Jay Leno Sucks…secondly…you suck…third the john stewart show is a comedy show and not meant to be taken serious…by you even making a reply shows that you are taking it serious…and then you try to fire back from your so called “ivory tower” trying to belittle the show…its a f##cking comedy show…unlike the fox news shows which are meant to be taken seriously and most find it quite difficult to do so considering the amount of spew thrown onto each “news” story

  • Alisha

    I ADORE Jon Stewart because he is an INTELLIGENT individual and his writers kick ass! What they do is most EXCELLENT social commentary today! If the GOP and this damn Bernie Goldbugerwant to stay off his show and cease to be the butt of his jokes all they need to do is cease the double talk, the ridiculous accusations and well, cease to be moronic, rapture expecting, woman hating bigots…but then what would I laugh at?

    • dfree

      O my word! You are so lost, Alisha! How dare you mock the religious beliefs that this Country was built on! You mock the Rapture? Are you serious? Well, I guess one day you’ll realize how dangerous it is to mock the words of Our God. You are so lost. O, BTW! Why are conservatives “woman hating bigots”? I was raised by conservative parents who have been married for 63 years. My father still worships the ground my mother walks on. Like I said, “Lost” doesn’t begin to describe you! I find it amusing that the people you consider “intelligent” can’t say a complete sentence without being bleeped three times! That’s intelligence???

      • FightingStupidity

        “How dare you mock the religious beliefs that this Country was built on!”

        This country was not built on any religious beliefs. Indeed, it was the desire to be free of religious persecution which prompted much of the Old World to move over here.

        But, of course, according to Beck and company, the separation of Church and State was just a hoax, right? Revisionist history rearing its ugly head once more. You can believe in whatever God you choose, but do not for a moment pretend to yourself that your religion has caused anything other than oppression, persecution and the reduction of knowledge in favor of self-contradictory verses from a Bronze Age book.

        That’s intelligence???

  • Where’s the bile?

    From Yahoo! News:

    Goldberg, who called the “Daily Show” audience “unsophisticated,” said that he had received lots of “vulgar, vile, hateful” comments from Stewart fans on his site, where he writes a regular column, since Tuesday night’s show.

    He also had more advice for the “Daily Show” host: “Man the hell up, Jon!”

    “Vulgar, vile, hateful?” I see maybe a couple of those here, but most of the comments, while passionate and maybe even a bit strident, don’t hit the level of “vile and hateful.” And there are plenty of pro-Bernie comments on here to make this forum, ahem, fair and balanced.

    If Goldberg is going to plead guilty to anything, I think he should plead guilty to being thin-skinned.

  • Jack

    Lighten up.
    It’s comedy. Bernie forgot that. Every comedian has a niche. Tim Allen realized he had a hit character when he started doing the handyman husband persona. Took it all the way to a hit TV show. John Stewart, hit gold when he started doing political satire. The fact that FOX News keeps taking the bait, only gives him material. He is similar to Kathy Griffin, who made it when she started revealing every conversation with a celebrity. If a celebrity took the bait they ended up in her comedy routine. Same way with the news. Poor reporting may or may not show up in TDS, but obvious biased reporting and sanctimonious reporting . . . well it just keeps the writers their job.
    Never pick a fight with someone whose job is to ridicule the ridiculous. Bernie, gave John Stewart some high rating.

    Finally, C’mon it was funny show. I laughed til I cried. The actual dropping of the FU isn’t so funny, but the rest of the stuff, hilarious.

  • Chris

    Bernie,

    Why do you and Fox bother? Jon Stewart and TDS makes you guys look foolish everytime. And rightly so. He was correct, you were wrong. He is a COMEDIAN doing his job. You are a commenter who has pretensions of seriousness. You work on a disengenous hack network and you got exposed/owned badly last night. Go watch Stewart’s segment again and then take a long look in the mirror. You know that I am right. Sorry Bernie, you ‘lie’ down with dogs, you wake up with fleas….

    • http://na wayne vrba

      Exactly right, Chris !!!

      The Republicans do zero for Health Insurance reform while in power. Then when the
      Dems push it, the right says “everybody knows we need health care reform but your
      ideas are all wrong”. That is BS. Then the dems propose wall street regulatory reform
      after the right proposes nothing during the year after the near collapse and the right
      says “everybody know we need wall street regulatory reform but your ideas are
      all wrong”. MORE right-wing BS. A sad and pathetic “party of no”

      • Larry Middleton

        How is that HealthCare thing working for you? Lets see I have no healthcare for 4 years what a great deal. Oh forgot I pay for it though. Free lol

  • Anonymous

    Do you know what is interesting, the conservative elite look down there noses at the same people the liberal elite do the key word here is elite. So the question is why should any one listen to the elite on either side?

    I think the best thing any one in this country could do conservative or liberal research, demand the facts and figure out what they actually support once they can make an informed decision.

    The thing is it is much easier to lap up whatever the media elite are spoon feeding to the masses to line their pockets then it is to go out and read a bill that may be passed or read the constitution.

  • Greg

    Bernie…

    Is a modern, educated, rich, Archie Bunker. He get’s his thrills from intellectual intimidation. He and Billy Boy are trying desperately to hold on to the good old days where wealth and power were control by a certain group.The Testicle Baggers, Fox News, Sean,The pill addict—Rush Limbaugh…etc. will do all in their power to keep the playing field from becoming balanced.
    The election of Obama has changed the way the game will be played forever. Yes, change is here to stay!!!

    • Jen A

      Whoa…somebody OD’d on the kool-aid today.

    • Alex

      You think Obama has moved the American political system away from bureaucracy? Wow interesting thought, I wonder who all those “Tzars” are then. What is Universal Healthcare? Oh, right, yet another expansion of government power that will put our country in even deeper debt. Awesome.

    • pullinMule

      We in this country need to stop spending our money on the system that is supposed to protect us from ourselves, i.e. war on drugs, product liability, etc, etc. Let the process of natural selection take over. I am not a liberal, libertarian, republican, socialist, etc, etc. I am however a survivor. If you don’t understand the laws of physics and don’t develop the ability to reason, deductively and inductively, then you will not survive yourself no matter how much protection anyone tries to provide you. We as humans have evolved into the only species on this earth to not provide our progeny with the skills needed to survive and contribute to our continuation. I’m just saying………….

  • Independent

    A few thoughts….

    1) Bernie does opinion and commentary. What he says needs to be taken in the context of the “conversation” in which the words are spoken.

    2) Generalizations are a normal shortcut people take when discussing a topic. The assumption is that the generalization pertains to the topic at hand and the “subset” of the generalized grouping being discussed. There is no argument that this can be considered sloppy or lazy and can lead to misunderstandings and inflamed passions. Hence the reason Bernie did take ownership for his use of generalizations in the brisk, time constrained, format of the show wherein he opined.

    3) It’s a cheap shot to nitpick and parse the words used by your political opponent when you know from past communications, readings, and/or could know by asking, what that person means when he/she says something you believe is a generalization or stereotypical. Jon Stewart nitpicks often and calls it humor. Yes, sometimes it is funny but other times it seems snide, condescending, and purposefully mean spirited. Watching both shows, i have to tell you the exchange reminded me of olde tyme Internet Flame Wars. Nasty. Personal. Resolving Nothing. I say this as someone who believes that when you are attacked, you have every right and obligation to strike back, however, there comes a time you just have to leave it behind you as it becomes nothing more than a game of “top it.”

    4) I don’t think Jon Stewart is all that funny or insightful. I actually liked the Daily Show when it was more “Onion-ish” and when the “anchor” was the straight man and not constantly mugging to the camera and seemingly spewing bile and outrage. It was supposed to be a parody of news programs.. not of the opinion shows. Mr. Stewart comes across as too big for his britches and self important. Why anyone would take anything said on the Daily Show seriously is beyond me. For God’s sake, he’s only an entertainer.. a comedian! In some circles that’s lower than an actor! And if a comedian insists you take him seriously, he is seriously no longer funny….but sad.

    5) I like Colbert precisely because he is playing it straight and keeping the parody what it should be… a parody of opinion shows (generally)

    • Chris

      I agree about what you said regarding generalizations. We all make them, it’s really hard not to. But what Stewart is really pointing out is how Fox News has practically institutionalized certain generalizations, often seeming to actively promote them as the truth–all while claiming to be fair and balanced. I think Stewart is spot on to point that out–and even to be a little angry about it.

      And it should be mentioned that Stewart has never asked to be taken seriously. He constantly shirks off the mantle of serious commentator on his show. Some, like me, enjoy his satire because we see it as a humorous reflection of what we see in the real world.

    • Stephen Colbert

      Stewart didn’t “nitpick” or “parse” anything Goldberg said. His response to Goldberg’s comments was so effective that Bernie had no choice but to admit that his comments were hypocritical.

  • Anonymous

    What I want to know is, when did being educated become a bad thing? Intelligent, educated people are more likely to make thoughtful, informed decisions than people who are uneducated. Sorry if it hurts, but that’s the truth. The reality is that it shouldn’t even matter. Should you vote against Democrats because you want to “stick it” to the liberals who think that they’re better than you? Of course not, you should carefully think about the policies of each candidate and make what you believe to be the right choice. Conservatives just want to make ‘Joe Average’ feel like liberals are looking down at him so he’ll become angry and anti-liberal, and won’t think clearly about the issues that are actually important.

  • Chris

    It’s Fox News who creates the illusion of importance for comedians like Stewart by responding to them as though they present serious news commentary.

    There’s no denying that Stewart and Maher align more closely with liberals, but it’s foolish to claim that they don’t take aim across the political spectrum. Try watching the shows before you make that conclusion.

    By the way, Glenn Beck, who is undeniably presented as a non-comic news commentator, often hides behind his silly persona in order to get away with saying completely outrageous things. Just sayin’.

  • Stephen Colbert

    Bernie, please post your reaction to last night’s Daily Show. That was some funny bleeping comedy.

    • Ryan

      Yes I agree, that is the only reason I came onto your site, I am curious to your reaction of April 21 show.
      Keep up the good work Colbert, your finally starting to win me over : )

      • Ryan

        Sorry I meant the show on the 20th

  • JD

    You can tell Bernie was angry and he was correct to fire back at Jon Stewart.

    Jon hides behind these statements:
    “hey I’m a simple comedian, just making jokes, nothing personal” and
    “I’m not serious news, people don’t listen to me, so that gives me the right to bash others and hold them accountable”

    Judging by his salary and ratings, I would say Jon is very influential and he knows it.
    He might not admit it but Jon jokes are an extension of his personal views, just because he’s funny shouldn’t give him a pass or mean he is correct.

    His “go F-yourself Fox” and his daily bashing of Fox news tells us it is personal and goes beyond comedy. If Jon truly doesn’t like Fox because he thinks they are hypocrites, slant the news to their liking and have a political agenda, then he would be saying go F-yourself to MSNBC and bashing them every night too, but he doesn’t.

    Jon dislikes Fox because he disagrees with their views it has nothing to do “just tying to keep them honest in a funny way”. If Jon used his show to go after MSNBC as much as he goes after Fox, then I wouldn’t have a problem with him at all.

    He goes after Bernie for not being fair and balanced, I don’t ever recall Bernie saying he was fair and balanced, he just does his opinionated political commentary on a station that’s calls itself that. Bernie also does commentary on HBO and used to work for CBS.

    Jon is a funny guy and that’s what he uses to go after people and Bernie is serious and that what he uses to go after people but after the laughter is over and you examine the words Bernie is correct.

    • Chris

      If you think he gives the other news agencies a free pass, then you definitely don’t watch the show. He nails CNN and MSNBC all the time. He ripped Olbermann so hard regarding something he said about Scott Brown once that Olbermann wound up apologizing.

      He also has a respectful relationship with many conservatives that often appear on his show.

      It’s true that he rips Fox News more often than the others. That’s because Fox News is, indeed, more hypocritical than the other news agencies.

      • CCC

        Are you kidding me? Olbermann apologized? Did you not see that “apology?” He “apologized” for omitting the term “racist” (I think it was “racist” though it could have been “sexist” or some other slander.) But it was certainly no apology. Any person that takes KO seriously should not have standing to comment on anything or anyone else in the business. KO is the biggest buffoon in the business.

    • Original Wham

      HOW IS BERNIE CORRECT? Did you even see the Daily Show episode, and some of the comments he made? He said that all Liberals would abort babies with special needs. That is absolutely disgusting…as disgusting as calling at Tea Partiers racist (WHICH JON STEWART AGREED WITH). You need to actually watch the clips Stewart showed, and then tell me, with a straight face, Bernie Goldberg was right.

      • JD

        I never said he gives other news agencies a free pass, but he never said “go F-yourself” to MSNBC that’s does the same as Fox news does.

        If you think Fox news is more hypocritical then MSNBC then you haven’t watch that channel. I have a few conservative friends too that doesn’t mean my opinions aren’t liberal, they are and I admit to it, Jon has to admit to it too.

        Wham I didn’t see the whole Daily Show just like you didn’t read my comments.
        I never said I agreed with Benrie’s political views, since I’m a democrat I probably don’t agree with most of his views.
        I said I agree with his critique of Jon.

    • Chris

      You obviously never watch his show. Stewart goes after all networks with regularity.

      • JD

        used to watch that, Fox and MSNBC, not much anymore.
        But you did admit he goes after Fox much more

        • FightingStupidity

          It could have something to do with the fact that Fox are far more guilty of the things which irk Stewart. You’re attempting to set up a false equivalence with MSNBC. Everyone knows that MSNBC is partisan. However, the difference is that for the most part they back their views up with intelligence and data.

          Contrast this with the dementia of Beck, the disingenuous nature of O’Reilly, the fraudulence of Hannity, the factual incompetence of Krauthammer, the interruptions of Kelly, the vacuousness (and dorky haircut) of Baier, the idocy of Palin and the inanity of Fox & Friends, all standing under the banner of ‘Fair and Balanced’.

          It’s deceit and hypocrisy which annoy people like Stewart, and at the moment, there’s pretty much one place in town to find it.

          (Oh, and I love how the website told me I was posting too fast, and needed to slow down. This amused me, given the fact that the majority of Fox News’ contributors cannot keep up with the conversation unless they have control of the microphone.)

          • JD

            no attempt they are both the same

  • Drew

    Stewart is a political commentator like the WWF is a sport.Only to the brainless devotees of both.A failed third rate comic like his clone Maher.When the writers struck his reruns began.Perfect for a limited audience whose historical memory is circumscribed by to-days news and Coke Zero

    • Anonymous

      Try fixing your punctuation. You’re making yourself look even dumber.

      • RogerCfromSD

        Anonymous, I see you didn’t and couldn’t deny what Drew wrote. Even if his punctuation wasn’t to your liking.

        • http://na wayne vrba

          Perfectly said, OW !

          Fox knows that it can “throw `stuff` against the wall and, sadly, some of it
          will stick”. Truly, paid liars from doocy the doofus (G. Carlson is worse)
          to Greta who was once more objective (until the Boss called her in).
          Beck is a second-rate comedian and hannity is a genuine intellectual
          lightweight (and that is being KIND). O`Reilly is no-kiddin` perhaps THE
          most arrogant person in TV history, very smart but just too arrogant.

      • Anne

        uh oh…….please help……”go —- —-self– ” fix my punctuation for me.
        Thanks!!!!!

    • Jared

      The Daily Show didn’t go into reruns during the writers strike. Jon changed the name of the show to A Daily Show, out of respect to his writers as he did not feel without them the show could be referred to as The Daily Show, during the strike and had to handle the writing himself. If you are going to attack the man at least be accurate. The Daily Show audience is wide ranging, some extremely educated and sophisticated in their philosophies and beliefs and others are merely pot heads as Bill O’Reilly likes to generalize them. You obviously have no idea what your talking about and do not concern yourself with trying to understand or get to know others with opposing views to yours. Guess that is what makes you the perfect candidate to watch Fox news.

  • Sonny

    Do you even realize how self righteous you sound when you open your mouth, Bernzie ? Let’s put titles and “what your place in society should be” aside for a moment… Comedian or not, Jon Stewart has revealed you in a way that is embarrassing to you. Your little rant on Bill’s show by criticizing him AND his audience proves that he got to you and that he is right ! What you say about Jon Stewart and his audience doesn’t add up to much because you are not important enough to warrant our respect. What Jon Stewart says about you and Fox news is starting to add up to a whole lot… Forget about the polls that make YOU feel good about what you are doing. The people taking the polls are your audience. You are out of touch with reality and Jon Stewart is connecting with larger masses of people every day.. Check and mate.

    • RogerCfromSD

      Jon Stewart is not, repeat, is not a credible journalist, Sonny. He’s a comedian who makes mugging faces and is intellectually-dishonest in his comedy.

      Watch Behar. You’ll probably enjoy her intellectual banter, as well.

  • B.Y.

    ” Liberal elites think they’re not only smarter and more sophisticated than the kind of Americans who live in Kansas or Mississippi and like to bowl or eat at Red Lobster – they think they’re … better! And if you don’t believe me, just ask those libs. They’ll tell you how wonderful they are.”

    If people actually argue over pointless crap like that then both sides are making America look like the next Rome these days.

    • hitt

      Rome never really ended, it just migrated.

  • Greg

    Hey Bernie…

    A stuck pig will squeal!!!

    You can’t win this one. He has a show too. Move on to someone who can’t rebutt you or Billy boy on Television…Everyday!!!

    :o-)
    So smart but yet so stupid u r.

  • K. L. M.

    RE: “You are just a safe, Jay Leno with a much smaller audience, but you get to say the f-bomb, which gives your incredibly unsophisticated audience the illusion — the illusion — that you’re courageous and that you’re a renegade.”

    I speak Arabic and French. I’ve lived in the Arab World and have many educated and incredibly amazing friends there. I’ve read many political philosophers from Hobbes to Locke to Kant to Webber to Strauss and many more. I read my news from the Economist, BBC, Reuters, and Foreign Policy magazine. I maybe an intellectual elitist, I’ll take that. I enjoy reading french absurdist fiction. I enjoy visiting the National Gallery of Art. I’m friends with intelligent Libertarians and Republicans and we discuss and debate policy more or less respectfully, if not amusedly. I work in Peacebuilding in Post-conflict countries, helping them create judicial frameworks and restore their legal systems and the rule of law. I grew up around people on food stamps – because I was a military brat. My father was a Captain in the Air Force, and my neighbors were enlisted men and their families.

    And *I’m INCREDIBLY UNSOPHISTICATED* ?
    Bernie – Te futueo et caballum tuum.

    • K. L. M.

      And by the way, I didn’t say I was better than anyone. I’m not saying that. I’m saying that attacking a bystander for something which someone else said is unfair and prejudicial. You have no idea who I am, just as I have no idea who the teapartyers are. But now I know that I can insult people who watch you, Mr. Goldberg. Because obviously you feel its perfectly fine to do that to me.

  • hitt

    Tongues down throats? What, are you trying to retrieve the teabags Bernie?

  • DoTheRightThing

    Thank you for speaking the truth, Mr. Goldberg.

    • hitt

      Truth is, you’re more likely to get sexually abused by a Catholic priest than a Methodist preacher statistically speaking. So you can use statistics to predict with some certainty what republican, douchebag, teabaggers will say and do, and whether or not they’re racist, closeted homosexuals.

      • hitman on hitt

        Your statistics are about as meaningful as the East Anglican climate-research scientific community. And you dare to lead with, “Truth is…” You know the subject of slander better than you know the subject of truth.

        • FightingStupidity

          You do know that the investigations found that not a single scientist in the ‘Climategate’ scandal had fabricated or misrepresented data, right?

          I wonder how much play THAT little piece of information received on Fox ‘News’. ;)

      • biggerricker

        hitt you are EVEN more likely to sexually abused by a teacher or a journalist then a Catholic priest, statistically speaking.
        Perhaps you explain to this “tea bagger” again about your sophisticated and nuanced ideas about the proper role of Government are vs. the “hate speech” of those of us making critical comments about the unsustainable expansion of Federal entitlements. Or maybe another lecture about how us “republican, douchebag, teabaggers” should undertake comport ourselves properly in the civil discourse of public policy.

  • Catherine

    I live in TN, I have a masters degree and I am proud to be a so called liberal. So generalizing in any form means nothing. I’m in a red state, I don’t drink from the Kool-aid that is Fox news and can think for myself. I watch Jon Stewart every night, I love the comedy that it weaves into current affairs. I grew up in a time when news anchors were relied on, you didn’t have to look for hidden agendas. These were respected journalist and today I wonder what happened to them. How much does Fox news pay for a journalist intergity and is it worth it? Who in todays news can you trust to just deliver the news, a source for reliable world events. Is there anyone?

    • Jay

      Me too. I’m a liberal from Texas. Doesn’t get more red state than that. Thanks for making Jon’s case about generalizing.

    • Jean

      Hi Catherine,
      I share your frustration when it comes to straight forward news that you actually get something out of (and doesn’t insult your intelligence) I’ve gotten hooked on Fareed Zakaria GPS on CNN. He interviews top officials and amazing people from all over the world and you see both sides of many situations (fair and balanced… hmm) out there. I think you might really like that show. It airs on Sunday mornings. http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/fareed.zakaria.gps/

      Yes, I’m a college grad and I watch Jon every night too. He always makes me laugh, Stephen too.

  • Stephen Colbert

    Bernie obviously gives a rat’s _ss, or he wouldn’t have responded to what Stewart said about him. I’ll bet he regrets it now.

    As for the Teapublicans taking power, you should probably wait until those chickens actually hatch before you starting counting them.

    • RogerCfromSD

      Someone sounds worried. Good. Come November, it will be a tsunami sweeping the corruptocrats in Congress from power. Bye, bye, Communists in power.

      • Stephen Colbert

        Telling you to wait to count your chickens makes me sound worried? Someone sounds desperate to convince themselves that people are going to forget the Bush/Cheney disaster.

        • Kate

          Yep, you’re worried alright, and rightly so. You see the tide turning…

          • someone

            seriously, everyone calm down. lets just let November decide, and if republicans win majorities/house/senate, then they get to make some rules. but for now, please let the majority mean something and if the democrat’s plans suck _ss, then fix then next year

  • Mike Malone

    Nice try. Anyone who really believes conservative principles wouldn’t vote lib. Why would you put someone in power who will do the exact opposite of what you believe? NEXT!!

    • David Terrenoire

      My, Mr. Malone, what a cogent argument you make. So eloquent. So erudite. You must be a true scholar.

      Let me ask you the same thing.

      Why do you continue to vote for people who do the exact opposite of what is in your best interest?

      How is tripling the debt, going to war without paying for it, wire-tapping citizens, stripping you of your 1st, 4th and 5th Amendment rights on the sole word of the president, outting a CIA agent for political reasons, and handing out a few hundred billion to people who dreamed up CDOs and credit default swaps conservative?

      But you keep believing Michael Steele, Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin have your best interests at heart. That’s a good sheep.

      • hitt

        Bahhhhhhhhhhhh….

      • Matt

        David,

        For answers to your questions, read some history, circa 1861, when Abraham Lincoln did the same thing. His reasons were the same as President Bush’s–to preserve the union.

        Of course I can see why you would have problems with Mr. Malone’s comment. It actually makes sense, which is something liberals have a difficult time doing.

      • Jeff

        David,

        Nobody in the last admin challenged, jeopardized, or stripped away my Constitutional rights. If your basis for that claim is the Patriot Act, I’ll counter that the Constitution doesn’t protect phone calls between overseas terrorists and their co-conspirators in America.

        On the subject of Plame, the liberals’ side of that story is weak and false. Neither of the two parties responsible for the “outing” were members of the administration, and the truly politically motivated actions were those of Plame and Wilson, both proven liars in the matter.

        You are right about one thing: the fiscal policies of Republicans in recent years haven’t been conservative, and their recent electoral losses might indicate that they aren’t getting our vote, no?
        You can’t, however, argue that supporting the current democrats is in anyone’s best interests.

        Their explosion of the debt makes President Bush’s spending look like overtipping a waitress.
        They are the ones who slam the public’s criticism in speech after speech (BO and others), call the dissent un-American (Pelosi), and go after high-profile critics (Reid). They are the ones who sneered at the Constitution while pushing the HC legislation. Who’s stripping whose rights?

        Conservatives by and large stopped supporting Republicans when they deserved it. Your calling us sheep is classic projection, and won’t fly here.

        • David Terrenoire

          Jeff,

          I’m not talking about the Patriot Act. I’m talking about the Cheney-ordered NSA warrantless wiretaps of American citizens. They’re a whole different ball game. Even if Cheney’s intentions were right and honorable, as Rush Limbaugh says, intentions are meaningless.

          Then, there’s the whole suspension of habeas corpus for people rounded up on rumors or, in one famous case, for telling a joke about Bill Clinton. How would you like to be liable for a stretch in Gitmo, sans lawyer, every time you told a Clinton joke?

          As for Plame, all I can tell you is I work with people in the intelligence community and they do not share your interpretation of the facts. The simple truth is, Plame had cover and she was outted, indirectly, by political operatives inside the WH. To deny that simple truth is to be naive to the point of blindness. That conservatives twist themselves into a pretzel to sanction this bit of treason is outrageous.

          As for the fiscal responsibilities. The cause of the collapse is very complicated. Could closer regulation of investment banks stopped it? I don’t know. But 30 years of Republican deregulation of the financial industry made this moot.

          Now, do we pump a ton of money into the system in order to save capitalism? Again, I don’t know, but I don’t hear conservatives coming up with a better plan. I don’t like it, but I don’t think we have a choice.

          And please, don’t get all high hat with your concern for the public’s right to criticize. I remember in the run-up to Iraq how war protesters were called traitors and unAmerican. I remember how people who spoke out against Bush were told how dangerous it was to criticize a president during war time. And I remember when the American bridge team said publicly that they had not voted for Bush and were pummeled by the right for criticizing a president “on foreign soil.” Yet, when Palin goes to Hong Kong and disses this admin, nary a peep from the right about “foreign soil.”

          So save your rather selective concern for our right to assemble peaceably and redress the government.

          That won’t fly here.

    • That’s idiotic

      Sorry Mike…

      There are plenty of us, who are independent minded, and have some personal conservative values that we absolutely will not thrust on others… because not thrusting my value on others is also my conservative value…

      So, everytime I get to choose between the two evils, I am forced to choose the lesser of the two evils, which is the democratic party, nowadays. I decidedly hate to cast my vote one way or the other, but cannot choose a third party candidate in good conscience because of what it will do to the overall results.

      True democracy will come to America only when we can push for a voting system like the Condorcet system or something where I can rank my candidates.

      http://www.accuratedemocracy.com/c_intro.htm

      We are not stupid people, and the politicians will let you think you are smart until you want them to really show that they mean it… like implementing a condorcet system, and then you will hear them tell you “no, that is too complicated for the ‘average joe'”

      Go figure.. but then I digress… so yes, there are some of us conservatives who will vote liberal

  • Steve Altman

    I read you column and then I read the comments that follow. It fits a pattern I see in many venues. We really are two Americas. And we really don’t like each other. I don’t know know where this is going, but I don’t see it ending well.

    • Jay

      I hope most people won’t let political views get in the way of liking other people. I have a lot of conservatives friends that I respect, but disagree with on many issues.

      • Anonymous

        I agree. I have conservative friends and I like them just as much as my liberal friends. The news media focuses so much on the extremists of both the far left and far right that in the end it might feel that much of the country believes in these extremes.

        Despite this, these extreme viewpoints only occupy what is in reality, a small portion of the political demagogue.

  • Stephen Colbert

    If you got upset about Stewart telling you to “go %&^# yourself”, I bet you really enjoyed last night’s Daily Show. You are in way over your head.

    • Mike Malone

      Who gives a rat’s _ss what Stewart or any of the rest of you libs think? When libs are out of power come November, that’s all that matters. After that you can yuck it up all you want and keep telling yourselves you’re better and smarter. Keep up the good work, morons.

      • Stephen Colbert

        Bernie obviously gives a rat’s _ss, or he wouldn’t have responded to what Stewart said about him. I’ll bet he regrets it now.

        As for the Teapublicans taking power, you should probably wait until those chickens actually hatch before you starting counting them.

      • hitt

        You’re more likely to get sexually abused by a Catholic priest than a Methodist preacher statistically speaking. So you can use statistics to predict with some certainty what republican, douchebag, teabaggers will say and do, and whether or not they’re racist, closeted homosexuals. You care, you know you do.

  • Akast

    ‘So here’s one more generalization Jon Stewart won’t like: Liberal elites think they’re not only smarter and more sophisticated than the kind of Americans who live in Kansas or Mississippi and like to bowl or eat at Red Lobster – they think they’re … better!’

    Do you have any empirical data to back this statement up? Has there been a study performed proving your hypothesis/claim that ‘Liberal Elites’ think they are more smarter and sophisticated then Americans who live in the Mid-West?

    As a Journalist, you realise that you need to back up your claims with facts. You just made statement claiming ‘that over 50% of ‘liberal elites’ think they’re more sophisticated then ‘non-liberals”. That is a statement of fact, not opinion. Hence, you need to prove it. The onus of proof is on you. Without proof, I just see a massive logical fallacy.

    • Ster

      All you have to do is listen… that’s it. The evidence is all around you.
      The only people who do not see/hear it ARE those people that think they’re better.

      I’m betting you’re one of them, no?

      • Akast

        That is not what I’m looking for. What you’re talking about is ‘anecdotal evidence’. Ie, Person X says this, therefore all groups that person X belongs to is Y. Thats a logical fallacy. Unless I see some empirical data, or scientific studies to back up Bernie’s claim, its just a gaping logical hole in his piece. As a journalist, he should know better before making unsubstantiated statements like that.

        ‘The only people who do not see/hear it ARE those people that think they’re better.

        I’m betting you’re one of them, no?’

        Please refrain from ad hominem attacks and condescension.

        • hitt

          Which way did he go, which way did he go.

        • hitt

          “than” non-liberals – don’t make us look bad

      • hitt

        You’re more likely to get sexually abused by a Catholic priest than a Methodist preacher statistically speaking. So you can use statistics to predict with some certainty what republican, douchebag, teabaggers will say and do, and whether or not they’re racist, closeted homosexuals.

    • Ojjective One

      Akast — I think he preceded his final comment with the disclaimer that it was a generalization. So, I’m not sure I understand your comment. But, I will tell you that I have spent considerable time with East Coast liberal, intellectual elites. And, from my decades of experience, and speaking in an un-scientific manner — he’s right.

      • Akast

        Again, just anecdotal evidence. I can say that I have met alot of conservatives that have incredibly backward views. But that does not mean that all conservatives have backward views. It just means, those individuals have backward views. This applies to any organisation.

        Here’s the thing. Regardless of any organisation, group, etc. whether they be conservative, liberal, Muslim, Christian, it does not matter. You cannot judge the merits of a whole group based on the characteristics of an individual. This applies to every group. If you do make such a generalisation, you need to have some data to back it up, otherwise its just a logical hole.

        Unless you have met over 50% of liberals and those 50% are unsophisticated, you cannot say that the majority of liberals are unsophisticated.

        This goes for liberals as well. Liberals cannot say that all Conservatives are racists, unless they have met 50% of all conservatives who, by definition, are racist. Thats not how it works at all.

        • hitt

          You’re more likely to get sexually abused by a Catholic priest than a Methodist preacher statistically speaking. So you can use statistics to predict with some certainty what republican, douchebag, teabaggers will say and do, and whether or not they’re racist, closeted homosexuals.

    • Jeff

      Proof:

      “they bitterly cling to their guns and religion” from … wait for it …

      I don’t need to tell you because you already know who said it … but since you already know who said it why are you DEMANDING proof ? Because just one guy said it ? to a crowd of “liberal elites” who applauded ?

      Oh, you want an academic study or poll … right … ok, all too often commentors suggest that the GOP is racist … Have you ever seen a poll to back that up ? And if someone was to take such a poll do you really believe that actual racists would answer yes ?

      Some things can’t be polled … do you beat your wife ? do you hate blacks/asians/brown people ?

      Bernard gave you empirical first hand evidence of his personal experience with liberal elites but you want a poll … thats willful ignorance on your part. If you keep building your world view using willful ignorance don’t be suprised if you find yourself looking like a fool more often than not.

      • Akast

        I don’t want a poll. Polls can easily be skewed.

        Look, I’m not on either side here. Liberal commentators who paint the Conservatives are racists are just as bad are conservatives who paint the liberals as ‘unsophisticated’. My key point here, if ANYONE makes a sweeping generalisation, they better back themselves up with empirical data.

        ‘Bernard gave you empirical first hand evidence of his personal experience with liberal elites but you want a poll … thats willful ignorance on your part.’

        That is not empirical data. Empirical data, by definition, is:

        a. Relying on or derived from observation or experiment: empirical results that supported the hypothesis.
        b. Verifiable or provable by means of observation or experiment: empirical laws.

        I’m assuming an experiment has not been conducted testing the hypothesis that all ‘liberal elites’ consider conservatives to be unsophisticated. Hence, his statement is unsubstantiated and false unless otherwise proven.

      • Jay

        Actually, what Bernie gave was not empirical evidence (if you know what that is), it was anecdotal evidence.

      • hitt

        You are hysterical. You should have your own show full of empirical first hand evidence. You could have a segment called “Weights and Measures” where you bring out all of your empirical first hand evidence against the elite liberals. Then, to close the show, you and all your republiklan guests could open wide and compete to see who could bag the most salthy tea in one mouthful.

        • Akast

          @hitt

          Like I said before, refrain from ad hominems. That adds nothing.

          • hitt

            Are you woman are you man, I’m your biggest funked up fan. Ad hominems and all.

            Plus it would have to be fallacious to be an ad hominem and nothing I write is fallacious. All true Charlie Brown.

    • hitt

      “than” non-liberals – don’t make us look bad

  • Tracy C.

    Jon Stewart reminds me of one of those guys when I went to high school who thought they were really funny and even people who thought they weren’t funny, laughed anyway. And guys like that wanted to be popular so bad that they always kissed the butts of the popular kids in order to remain popular even though they didn’t warrant it. Jon Steward in an overrated, unfunny idiot who is puppet for the rest of the liberal media. When his act gets old and stale and the ratings go down, Jon will end up in the dumpster with the rest of the network rejects.

    Bernie, my hat’s off to you. You were brilliant, concise and the rest of the trolls are too stupid to understand what you wrote or were talking about. But that’s ok. You can’t fix stupid. It is what it is.

    • John Robinson

      You have a lot to say about people but nothing to say to them. Please, enlighten me,what nuances am I too stupid to understand? I’m a respectful, patient listener. I can take it.

      • Tracy C.

        John, please, you seemed to make it abundantly clear in your previous posts that you seem to understand quite clearly what is being said. However, if not, then I would have to say, if the too stupid to understand shoe fits….

        • John Robinson

          …then it must have been stolen from your closet. Yes, I know.

    • hitt

      John Stewart is hilarious. If you’d just open your closet door and let some light in, you might be able to see it. If your mouth wasn’t so occupied with all the tea you’re baggin, you might be able to hear how funny he is as well.

      • WJ

        Hitt:

        Clearly you mean “tea baggin” as some sort of slur. You must think playing with another man’s scrotum is awful, or do you fixate on that image for another reason?

        Why are you such a bigoted, closed-minded, homophobe?

        • hitt

          I didn’t come up with the term to describe the social bowel movement.

    • Jay

      “When his act gets old and stale and the ratings go down, Jon will end up in the dumpster with the rest of the network rejects. ”

      Hmm, his show is more popular than ever after 11 years. It’s okay if you don’t find him funny, he will always have his audience.

    • Anonymous

      You have absolutely no right to call anybody stupid after constructing this sentence: “Jon Stewart reminds me of one of those guys when I went to high school who thought they were really funny and even people who thought they weren’t funny, laughed anyway.” Honestly, try reading that mess out loud. Did you even go to high school? And before you come back with that “too stupid” crap, I’m a PhD researcher at an ivy league school, and I’ve published several papers in first-class scientific journals. What is it that makes you so brilliant again, your terrible writing?

      • Happy to be here

        lol, I’m sorry but this was priceless. thank you for a great laugh anomymous one. I read it out loud, everyone should try it. “Jon Stewart reminds me of one of those guys when I went to high school who thought they were really funny and even people who thought they weren’t funny, laughed anyway” its sound like our last president. What’s his name again?

    • FightingStupidity

      “When his act gets old and stale and the ratings go down, Jon will end up in the dumpster with the rest of the network rejects.”

      I guess with 11 years in business thus far, and having launched the careers of Stephen Colbert and Steve Carell, it’s looking like you’ll be waiting a while.

      Then again, you could just actually watch the show and figure out what it was that Stewart’s three word reply was responding to. Goldberg implied that liberals want to kill children with special needs.

      I share Jon Stewart’s sentiments entirely.

      • Le Fabe

        They can’t actually watch it, that means they would have to change the channel from Fox News.

  • hitt

    Tea Partiers are racists so characterizing them as such is not slander. Period.

    • Tracy C.

      We’re racists??? I’m amazed you typed that w/ a straight face. If you’ve been to a TEA Party rally, you’d see the contrary and until someone can prove that a TEA Party rally attender is racist, then you should just sit the hell down and look pretty.

      • hitt

        I’ve seen blanket coverage on Fox. Plenty of racist signage.

        • Anonymous

          Prove it.

    • Ster

      Sorry, it’s Democrats (the party of the KKK) that are racists.
      They use welfare and gifts to keep CERTAIN minorities dependent and down their whole lives. Do you think Jesse Jackson wants racism to go away? LOL!

      YOU seperate people based on color. YOU think CERTAIN minorities cannot do things without YOUR help.

      It is you that is racist. Take a step back and look.

      • hitt

        Bullshit. Why don’t you spend your time on higher learning? Your racism is showing.

  • hitt

    If you’re reading this and you’re not laughing your head off you might be a bagger.
    So get up. It’s time to go a’baggin. Lots of tea to be bagged out there.

    • Ster

      So, “hitt”…. you like ‘bagging’?
      I bet you knew what it really meant before we had to look it up.

      Are you a fan? Get ‘bagged much?

      • hitt

        Dig that salty taste? You know you do, so open wide and bag my elite liberal tea.

  • hitt

    Wow. he really skewered you like a kebob last night. Keep it up. You’re great material, and I think he’s doing his best work thanks to you. Hilarious.
    An Elite Liberal.

  • vegasguy

    I’m curious, did Daily KOS, HuffPo or Democrat Underground send all these progressives to this site? I can’t believe all of these replies are from people who regularly read Bernie’s column. The trolls have attacked.

    I have found that liberals can dish out an endless stream of hate and vitriol but can not accept any criticism of any Democrat without going ballistic. I wonder if a single liberal that has commented here said a word about the movie depicting President Bush being murdered. I doubt it, but then perhaps I shouldn’t generalize…HA HA HA!!!!!

    • John Robinson

      I didn’t see the movie you spoke of. My reply is below this one. Read it and dissect it based solely on your opinions stated in the post I’m replying to. Nobody “sent” me here. I came to express my opinion to Mr. Goldberg in response to his misguided remark about me.

    • hitt

      There was a movie about Bush being murdered AND I MISSED IT? Say it ain’t so!!!

      • John Robinson

        I had to go look up this movie. It’s a BRITISH made docudrama for the BBC called “Death of an American President.” British made. Not Liberal America made. And yes, on the surface, it’s a tasteless dramatization. Context is everything though, so I can’t judge it completely without having seen it. Just as I suspect YOU haven’t seen it.

        • Jeff

          How about the AMERICAN play and book ?

          • John Robinson

            Like I said, I looked up the movie and the first thing that came up was the movie I posted about. When I have time later, I’ll check into the play and book. I’m not familiar with them either.

      • Ster

        Yes… now imagine if one was made about Obama. YOU WOULD have heard about it. It would be called racist and there’d be protests everywhere.

        See the double-standard yet?

        • John Robinson

          No I don’t. All I see is comparing an assumption of what would happen with what did happen. Until that movie is made and it plays out the way you are saying it would, you are speculating, not giving fact.

          • Irene

            No, of course you don’t see the double standard. It’s like not seeing the forest for the trees.

  • Ron

    Jon Stewart ripped Bernie and FOXNews a new one last night.

  • Michael B

    I love Bernie on ‘Real Sports’ and happen to think that he’s a top-notch reporter. I do not care for his political punditry though, I think that he engages in needless petty name-calling.

  • John Robinson

    “In the big scheme of things what Jon Stewart says about me or what I say about him doesn’t amount to much.”
    Quite true. You’re both entertainers and that’s what entertainers sometimes do. Instead, you’ve taken it one step further and labeled me “incredibly unsophisticated” with no more knowledge of me than the the fact that I watch The Daily Show. That makes it personal and does amount to something. Would you say that to someone you’ve never met sitting next to you at a bar? Sir, you have just proven who the self-appointed elite truly is. It is you. I won’t begrudge you your success, but I would be ashamed if it were mine. A bully pulpit from which you label me as “incredibly unsophisticated” is not just hollow, it’s cowardly.

    • Brent

      Seriously? A characterization of an audience – which is a group of people -as “unsophisticated” is something you take personally? Seriously?

      Re-read your last sentence and tell me if it makes any sense. Are you trying to call Goldberg hollow or cowardly, or the pulpit from which he makes pronouncements?

      And tell me if this:

      “Quite true. You’re both entertainers and that’s what entertainers sometimes do.”

      is really a sensible response to this:

      “In the big scheme of things what Jon Stewart says about me or what I say about him doesn’t amount to much.”

      I understand what you’re getting at. Your feelings are hurt because someone called you unsophisticated and you pride yourself on your sophistication. But you couldn’t manage anything remotely resembling (ahem) a sophisticated response. It started off incoherent and, at some point, you took on the voice of a fulminating Keith Olbermann, which is just embarrassing.

      As for Jon Stewart’s audience (generally), they cheer when he makes unserious, intellectually dishonest arguments against people they don’t like. They applaud when he talks over guests with whom he has disagreements of opinion. They laugh at needless vulgarity. And they tend to think the completely mainstream and banal is edgy and clever. Incredibly unsophisticated stuff. That’s not an insult. It’s a fair characterization.

      And, personally, I do not care if someone I don’t know (like you, for example) thinks I’m unsophisticated. Who could possibly take offense to something like that?

      • John Robinson

        A difference of opinion. As a short reply, I understand that you don’t care if I think that you are unsophisticated. My point is, I would never CALL you that without knowing you. Never. I base all my online comments and responses on the simple principle, “Would I say that to a stranger in a bar?” So far, my nose has never been broken so I consider it a good strategy. Using a bully pulpit to label IS an insult for which no recourse is allowed. Mr. Goldberg is clearly out of touch with the Middle America I live in (Indiana) and the sense of fairness that many of us were raised with. Good day to you. I have some errands to run. I would like to stay and argue the points though. With respect.

  • Uncle Chuck

    Why is Bernie Goldberg on television? He has nothing interesting to say as far as I can tell and appears to be slightly retarded. He’s the perfect example of the the kind of banal filler that’s needed in the world of 24-hour cable news. Blah, blah, blah, ego, ego, ego. Nothing.

    • hitt

      Cause he’s so good looking?

    • Tracy C.

      am I to understand that Jon Stewart has NO ego? are you serious? time to go back to your daddy’s playboys and have some fun jr.

      • hitt

        Are you woman are you man, I’m your biggest funked up fan.

  • Raymond

    Thank you Mr. Goldberg for saying what I believed about Jon Stewart for a long time. Your gift with words are right on the money. Your appearances on The Factor are one of the bright spots of the week for me. Keep doing what you are doing. Our country needs to hear from you often.

    • Harry

      Pfff..HAHAHA…Get a life. He is a hack with nothing of value to add except for hate and lies, basically a talking head for the fascist republican agenda. Enjoy!

  • on

    You are the biggest hypocrite of all, you are a commentator for FOX News and you call us unsophisticated? You should actually watch TDS, you might learn something you lying piece of shit.

    • Stephen Shields

      Your vocabulary shows how unsophisticate you are. The tally is growing Bernie, you may want to rethink your hypothesis.

    • JC

      Nothing like some name calling when you have on other arguments

  • falcon

    Boy, this one touched a nerve, didn’t it?

    Well, at least people are reading. :-)

  • Ken Besig Israel

    Talk about thin skin, here I thought that Obama was the biggest blubbering crybaby with the thinnest skin but it turns out that Jon Stewart has the thinnest skin. Oh yeah, like most Liberals Jon is more than happy and willing to dish out the criticism, sarcasm, and ridicule against anyone he disapproves of, butt neither he nor his fan club can take it when someone points out how inconsistent, stale, inane, often bitter, hateful,and silly Jon’s humor really is and pays them back in kind.
    Even more impressive to me is the really low level of the language and the quality of the criticism that Jon Stewart’s defenders and fans use at this post to whine and moan about how Bernie Goldberg has somehow offended their icon.
    I am more than willing to admit that Jon Stewart was once a fine and talented comedian, with an adequate writing staff and delivery, but for some time now most of his material is rehashed and his humor inane, childish, or scatalogical and really can only appeal to people blindly infatuated with him or brain dead. I can only wish that his fans or at least the ones who have decided to write to this blog on Jon’s behalf had some self awareness of how they sound. This is because most of them come across as either be badly educated or just mean spirited losers because the level and quality of their writing and ideas is just pathetic.
    I can accept that you hate Bernie, a decent and moral man unlike good ‘ol Jon, but a when you call him terrible names and use derogatory language you only make it clear the low level YOU occupy. Unlike Jon Stewart, why don’t you fans of his use a little wit, surprise, and cleverness to make your points, because most of your diatribes are a lot like Jon Stewart’s humor, partisan, boring, and pitifully predictable.

    • Jon

      Talk about thin skin, here I thought that O’Reilly was the biggest blubbering crybaby with the thinnest skin but it turns out that Bernie Goldberg has the thinnest skin. Oh yeah, like most Republicans Bernie is more than happy and willing to dish out the criticism, sarcasm, and ridicule against anyone he disapproves of, butt neither he nor his fan club can take it when someone points out how inconsistent, stale, inane, often bitter, hateful,and silly Bernie’s punditry really is and pays them back in kind.
      Even more impressive to me is the really low level of the language and the quality of the criticism that Bernie Goldbergs’s defenders and fans use at this post to whine and moan about how Jon Stewart has somehow offended their icon.
      I am more than willing to admit that Bernie Goldberg was once a fine and talented participant on HBO Sports, with an adequate writing staff and delivery, but for some time now most of his material is rehashed and his politics inane, childish, or hypocritical and really can only appeal to people blindly infatuated with him or brain dead. I can only wish that his fans or at least the ones who have decided to write to this blog on Bernies’s behalf had some self awareness of how they sound. This is because most of them come across as either be badly educated or just mean spirited losers because the level and quality of their writing and ideas is just pathetic.
      I can accept that you hate Jon, a decent and moral man unlike good ‘ol Bernie, but a when you call him terrible names and use derogatory language you only make it clear the low level YOU occupy. Unlike Bernie Goldberg, why don’t you fans of his use a little wit, surprise, and cleverness to make your points, because most of your diatribes are a lot like Bernie Goldbergs’s punditry, partisan, boring, and pitifully predictable.

      • Rotten1

        Jeesh, they can’t even use their own words, they have to copy and paste someone elses. Pathetic.

        • Jon

          Pathetic?

          The reason the argument was so easy to parrot was because there wasn’t any substance. If there was a specific criticism or complaint, and not just a stream of vitriol and ad hominem logic, I couldn’t have done what I did. I had to change nothing but the names, and the retort still made perfect sense.

          Instead what we got was a wall of words that really didn’t mean anything at all.

          It’s pretty clear that the very things Ken charges Jon and his audience with is the very same thing he is guilty of all by himself.

          How’s that for pathetic?

  • Middle of the Country

    This guy from the middle of the country is a liberal, and there are plenty of us here. Your attempt at gaining attention through faded arguments such as those of the”middle of the country” vs. “liberal elites” is sad and unfortunate. Jon Stewart and TDS are an American institution.

  • earl claybeck

    first thank, you for admiting your a hypocrite. takes a big man to admit he’s an idiot. congrats. do us all a favor and see if the resst of fox news can admit that as well, or atleast take off the fair and balanced part.

  • I’m better than all of you

    By commenting on Jon Stewart, Bernie is lowering himself (I know, how is that possible, right?) If you consider yourself a political commentator, than ignore Stewart. He is a comedian. He is not a commentator. the fact you defend yourself against him is lowering YOU not him.
    Communication theory 101 my friend, lern u sum

    • hitt

      Got to get down low to bag the tea. I think he’s used to it.

  • Mark

    It is hilarious to see lectures on fairness from Bernie Goldberg. Also funny to hear him mock Jon Stewart’s audience when his favourite network – Fox “News” – panders to hillbillies and illiterates with the odd really angry ideologue thrown in for good measure.

    Fact is, Stewart’s show contains more “real news” than can ever be found on Fox, because they actually call out and mock both sides. The buffoons at Fox – and O’Reilly is right up there just behind the king of idiots Sean Hannity – only follow a script that is tilted exclusively one way.

    As to Tea Party haters being all lefties – uh… don’t think so. Many smart and thoughtful Republicans that I know are absolutely ashamed that they are becoming the face of their party.

    • Stephen Shields

      Fox “News” – panders to hillbillies and illiterates with the odd really angry ideologue thrown in for good measure.

      I see you are proving Bernie’s point. Guess he isn’t as wrong as you think. Have you ever watched the Rachel Maddow show? If you want odd really angry ideologue, check that program out, as well as O’Reilly.

      • hitt

        Choose a point of view and just run with it. You’ll be better off.

  • Joel

    Mr. Goldberg,

    The sad truth is that Fox is not “Fair and Balanced”. You, Mr. O’Reilly, etc. are bullies and like most bullies you are cowards. If you go into a battle of wits with John Stewart, you go in unarmed. Have a nice day!

    • Jeff

      If you would like to see a truly accurate example of a bully, Joel, you need look no further than the democrats in Washington. And if you start searching for a news network that is fair & balanced, you’ll have a hard time finding one that strives for it as much as FNC does.

  • The Gentleman

    I concur.

    • another unsophisticate

      Dear Bernie:
      What size of a nerve did Stewart hit to make you attack a comic? Are you really that dumb? Tonight’s Daily Show just turned you into a huge joke (with your ill-concieved help). Enjoy.

  • Propoganda

    Extreme bipartisan feelings are what will drive the country to obliteration. Not one party or the other.
    Conservatives and Liberals will try and convince as many people to hate the other. The key goal of Congress and government in general is to provide the best good for the country. However, from what has been represented equally both parties are more interested in demonstrating the fallacies of the other. There can be no accord reached when every issue in Congress is presented with options that will be completely opposed by the other party members.
    Democrats and Republicans are against the progress of this country.

  • Brandt Orme

    For years I thought Dick Morris was the biggest moron on Fox. Last night I saw you on Jon Stewart, you win hands down.

  • Roy McDee

    Bernie, I respect your journalism credentials, although I hate to see you exclusively slanted towards Fox News. You’re out of your league with Jon Stewart, however, since it’s apples and oranges. Stewart and O’Reilly are entertainers relying on ratings and could be gone quickly if the networks so decree.
    You are a prof journalist with only credibility to sell. Stewart and O’reilly have no credibility in news circles.
    Make the decision, Bernard. Good news will always win out…

  • John

    First and last time I’ll visit this site. I would be interested to know how much ole Bernie got paid for that spot. Just another old man who doesn’t want to see the realities of the world we live in. Jon Stewart is not always right by any means but listening to him is 10 million times better than listening to the Glenn Becks and Bill O’Reilly’s of the world. At least he has a grip on reality.

    • Jeff

      go back to Kos … please

  • http://www.whatsgoodblog.com Jay Booshay

    I am really distressed by the comments that Bernie Goldberg made. Someone who is “supposed” to be a “respectable” “news” commentator on FOX shouldn’t be making comments about “unsophisticated” audiences. I am in medical school and I definitely do not consider myself “unsophisticated.” Most of my friends are in similar types of graduate schools and are definitely not unsophisticated. As a fellow Jew, I am really ashamed by that comment and I think Bernie Goldberg owes the audience of the Daily Show an apology.

    • Ballpoint Writer

      Anyone who unnecessarily adds “as a fellow Jew” to a comment about “unsophisticated” audiences is either a self-loathing Jew or an Jew-baiting anti-Semite.

      Which are you?

      • Propoganda

        What makes you assume either of those positions BW?

        • Jay

          It’s called the “false dilemma” fallacy.

  • Gianluca

    I like Bernie, I like Jon,
    Bernie was right in uncovering Jon Stewart unfairness of calling conservatives. However Bernie was also the only one on Fox News admitting that the network doesn’t do journalism, but runs a political operation. Fox News always twists the news and pitches it to their large number of political right-wing commentators. Fair and Balanced my a#$!

    • Jeff

      how about a link ? otherwise I call BS

  • reasonable

    Waaahhh! Other people are generalizing too! I love how they defended making generalizations by making more generalizations. “100% of the criticisms of the tea party are coming from the left, this is a fact”. Wow, and he said that with a straight face. Not most or majority, but 100% because as we all know he has an instrument somewhere that can detect what all people everywhere are thinking at all times.

    Are they both idiots or did they just intentionally miss the point? My guess is the latter. Yes Bill Maher generalizes. Everyone does in politics and media. The difference is that they’re not then grabbing the nearest pedestal to bitch about the generalizations that the other side makes. John was pointing out the hypocrisy and idiocy of Fox News crying holier than thou foul on generalizations made about the tea party, when they themselves are constantly making broad stroke generalizations as well. Can they think?

  • anthony

    Two qualities are necessary to understand satire: a sufficient knowledge base to contextualize and the capacity to recognize irony. For those who regularly watch Jon Stewart, that means having a peg and knowing what, in fact, a hat is.

    Rhetorical tricks abound in political discourse. One effective method is to admit to and rue one delict in order to distract the listeners from another subsequent (like admitting that calling all conservatives “Nazis” was wrong and then tarring anyone who was insulted by being called a Nazi a “brown-shirt” *hrm!*).That shell game may satisfy those who much prefer the work of, say, Kinkade to Klimt (or 24 to La Heine), but not those of us who interpret our great body of law, vend the HVAC that makes large buildings – and commerce – viable, and design the software that guards us all from dirty bombs. That is, me and my friends.

    But of course you’re not speaking to us; rather, you’re blowing a dog whistle. What’s remarkable is that your dog-whistle data is demonstrably wrong. Indeed, it is the viewership of The Daily Show and The Colbert Report who are the most sophisticated regarding current events.

    http://people-press.org/report/319/public-knowledge-of-current-affairs-little-changed-by-news-and-information-revolutions

    At least Messieurs Stewart and Colbert have the respect – both for themselves and for their viewers – to disclose that they are merely hack entertainers, notwithstanding their pedagogic virtues. Would that you could admit the same, Mr. Goldberg.

    Until then, pace Cheney, go f-bomb yourself, you tiresome hack.

    • Christina

      Anthony….as a 15 year old would proclaim…..I heart you!!!!!

  • Perry

    Bernie,I see no reason for you to apologize.Jon Stewart is just a pawn in the Hands of his network bosses. He reads off the teleproptor just like every other TV host in the lamiestream media. At least when you write your column, or go live on Fox, no one tells you what to say.
    As far as generalizing, I think everyone does it at some point or time in politics. It has become natural as the race card is today . If we spent as much time solving the country’s problem’s,that we do on calling people , racist, bigots,and the F word, I wonder what kind of Country we could have.

    • Dave

      Um, Stewart works with the writers deciding what will be put on the show, so he provides significant creative input and makes editorial decisions about what gets into the final show. And exactly what evil scheme do you think the Comedy Central network executives are up to? It’s not like you can call it a liberal network – far too much blue collar comedy, and the other big show (South Park) is diehard libertarian. So really, it doesn’t sound like you know what you’re talking about…

    • Jay

      Perhaps you should check out some of his interviews on YouTube. The man does not need a teleprompter.

    • Happy to be here

      you do know his on comedy central right. Wow, you need a hug

  • Justin Case

    Cant take credit, but this basically summarizes why I can’t take this tea bag thing serious:

    “When they propose cuts in Medicare, means-testing Social Security, a raising of the retirement age and a cut in defense spending, I’ll take them seriously and wish them well.

    Until then, I’ll treat them with the condescending contempt they have thus far deserved.” Andrew Sullivan

    • Patient Observer

      See you in November, boyo. THAT’S when you’ll hear America singing…and it won’t be a happy time for Democrats.

      Borrowing from Harry Truman, a Democrat himself, the Democrats will experience a rain of ruin the like of which NEVER has been seen in American politics.

      • Roy McDee

        That’s an idiotic reply and shows your level of thinking.

        • Patient Observer

          Calling me names…an ad hominem attack…shows that there’s NO level to your thinking, i.e., you don’t register on the Richter Scale of thinking.

          As I said, in expressing my opinion…NOT name-calling…we’ll see what happens in November. You sound as if you’re afraid…VERY afraid. You have every reason to be.

          • Harry

            It is an idiotic reply, because it is in no way mathematically possible for the GOP to secure any kind of majority in November. Might as well capitulate now!

          • Christine

            Really? Dont count your repub eggs before they hatch…..your political crystal ball is churning.

          • keith

            gaining the majority this time around is not necessary. Remember, my democrat friends, your supermajority and wide House majority was secured through the 2006 AND 2008 elections. 2010 and 2012 will belong to us and there is nothing you can do about it.

            We will control at least the Senate OR the House by 2012 and maybe even the presidency (remember Bush the 1st, Ford, and Carter?). The people who support Democrats and their range of causes sound like we did in 2008 assuming the Repubs would take the presidency again and win back some seats in either House. Straight up delusional!!!!

    • Jeff

      Justin …

      you wouldn’t vote for any of those things so why are you lying about it ?

  • jimmy Dore

    Wow. Maybe you mssed the part of the maturation process when you learn to own up to your mistakes, short comings and misdeeds.

    Is that what you would teach your kids? “Ok, when you are caught being a blatant hypocrite, you should apologize, but do it in the most cowardly way possible. Try to minimize your infractions and then spend most of your apology pointing the finger at the guy who just exposed you for not exposing more people.”

    Wow, and it is all there in black and white.

    BTW, how many bankers were on your list of people who are screwing up America? You are a great journalist.

  • GERRY

    I agree with the tea party views and objectives, as do most ( not all) of my friends and aquaintences. I do not have time for rallies or meetings as I am occupied with earning a living and my famlies needs. I do not like people such Jon Stewart making fun of my core beliefs. I am angry, as to what is being done to my country. I pay more taxes then I wish to, but i do see the social need, to help others, not pork projects. Legal immigration made this country great. Illegal immigration will destroy it. I do believe in God, but I don’t go “to” church. I do pray that there are some honest politicians out there, somewhere. I served in the military and would serve again if my country needed me. I often ask myself, how many people actually align their core beliefs with the tea party. It is my belief , a silent majority do. Guess we’ll find out election day. Let’s see who laughs last Jon Stewart

    • CCNV

      Thank you, Gerry, and all the others on this forum, who have served in our Military!

  • joel

    nice Berno!! just like a politician!! admit you were wrong and then point the finger at everyone else!! hahaha!! you really take yourself so seriously!! why dont you just be a man and say “i was wrong and i am sorry.” At least then i can respect you.

    Berni Bern, you did the same thing a few months back when you apologised for accusing liberals of aborting “challenged babys.” You danced around an apology like a little boy. When are you going to stop taking yourself so seriously? You aren’t a voice that needs to be heard. You arent someone special. Your just bern, berno, berni bern, and unless you do somthing terrible, a few years after you are dead and gone you will be forgotten for all time, and the world will go on just as it has. So focus more on the attributes of being a man, and quit weasling out of every mistake you make.

    • Tim Ned

      This is what happens when you disagree with the likes of Jon Stewart, you bring in the numbness brains who watch his show and can’t have a serious debate. Joel, is this your typical contribution to debates or can you actual offer any original and intelligent thought? Enlighten us!

      • Hillbilly

        Excuse me, Tim Ned… numbness brains? Uh, er…don’t you mean stupidness heads?

      • Dave

        If you’re going to insult the viewers of the Daily Show for being “numbness brains”, you should really try to show at least a marginal grasp of the English language. I hope for your sake you’re fluent in something else, because your English is clearly lacking.

    • CCNV

      What did Joel just say?!

      • Tim Ned

        Nothing!

        • Jesse D. Orozco

          Bernie’s not anyone special … yet you come here and take a few minutes to both read his thoughts AND reply to them. You must have a lot of time on yer hands, Joel, to be able to go to the web sites of all the non-special people in the world and inject your penny’s worth of wisdom into their lives. I’m almost curious to see what you write on “Super Special” people’s web pages … emphasis on the “almost.”

          • Dave

            He’s posting here because of Jon Stewart, not Bernie.

    • Just Guessing

      I’m guessing that Bernard Goldberg had/has/will have more name recognition than “Joel” ever had/has/ever will have.

      • another unsophisticate

        Paris Hilton has more name recognition than Bernard Goldberg. Brilliant argument “Just Guessing”.

      • Gimme A. Break

        Perhaps Joel isn’t/hasn’t/ doesn’t strive for name recognition. I’m guessing Joel’s name recognition is on a par with yours. Where does that place you and your opinion?

  • 00Billy

    Seems to me, someone is trying to sell a book.

    If Fox news is scared of Jon Stewart and the Daily Show…maybe they should be. However, to come out and acknowledge your enemy is a ridiculous proposition.

    Shows how desperate Fox is …

    • Scott

      Actually Fox consistently and everwhelmingly CRUSHES the other networks in the ratings. Fox is the least desperate of all the networks.

    • EddieD_Boston

      Fox is desperate? About what? Having an audience 4 times larger than their competion? Talk about being a moron. What a stupid post.

      • Jay

        Who has more to fear than the man on top?

        • Jeff

          ever been in a match with a more skilled opponent ?

          Do you really think the guys on top fear their competition ?

          They beat them because they respect them and beat them at their own game not becasue they fear them.

          • Jay

            Sports analogies don’t work in all situations. I could give you a whole list of paranoid-out-of-their-mind monarchs.

            Fox doesn’t have any competition for what they do, which is cater almost exclusively to the conservative movement. It doesn’t take a lot of skill to preach to the choir.

            While there is no doubt that there are many liberal leaning journalists at other networks, I think most of the other news networks have to much self-respect as news organizations to wear their bias so blatantly on their sleeves as Fox News.

      • Mark

        Yeah- SO THERE. everyone knows that popularity is the best metric in determining right and wrong as well as what is best!

        Ernest Saves Christmas likely earned more box office than Shindler’s List, but few other than perhaps simple folk like yourself, would say it is a better movie.

        Get a grip.

  • Buz

    John Stewart makes his comments on Comedy Central. COMEDY-get it? So who the hell cares what he says. Tune him out he’s about as important as Captain Kangaroo was.

    • KenB

      Hey Buz. Why the putdown of Captain Kangaroo? I loved Captain Kangaroo when I was a kid.

    • HollyBerry77

      Unfortunately he matters b/c young people take him seriously. Don’t forget the poll last year that stated he was the most trusted name in news.

      • Bruce A.

        How old were these young people?
        My nephews watched Jon Stewart for a while but outgrew the show at approx. 15 years of age. I can’t think of anyone else who watches it.

        • Young Adult

          As a 22 year old I’ll say that I watch The Daily Show. I find it funny that so many conservatives find deep insult in what a comedy show has to say about them. This show follows other comedy shows, for example South Park. A similar comparison of bickering that is going on between Fox News and Stewart is like an average adult, say 35 years old, is arguing with an 8 year old child. Obviously Stewart would correlate with the 8 year old.
          This is not to say that the age range of The Daily Show revolves around 8 year olds, for those attempting to score a cheap shot. The comparison is to demonstrate the level of action that is demonstrated.
          However, compared to Fox News I am willing to say that I believe Jon Stewart delivers less biased news. From what I have seen there are plenty of people on Fox News which do not belong on a network set to state news.

          • Jeff

            I’m no spring chicken and I watch the occassional Daily Show. I enjoy it becausee he is really funny sometimes, even when he is skewering conservatives. But deep insult ? please …

            I do notice that when he parrots Democrat talking points occassionaly you don’t always see his best stuff … one exception, go watch his interview of John Yoo … he pulled out every talking point trick in the book, was very funny, but no match for Yoo …

            I think you are confusing opinion shows on FOX with the news shows …
            Beck and Hannity are not news programs …

          • Jeff

            young adult …

            one thing you may notice when observing conservatives and liberals deabte issues is that often, not always of couse, but often conservatives understand the liberal point of view, they may not agree with the liberal solution but they understand the ideas behind them. All too often liberals paint conservative ideas with broad brush motives (blood for oil, opposition to Obama due to racism, etc) and never really try to undertand the conservative ideas behind their policy preferences … Why is that ?

            when you put your trust in a candidate who you know is lying to you then you should really step back and look in the mirror … Did you vote for Obama because he convinced you he was a moderate like he ran as ? Or did you vote for him because you knew he was lying about his moderation and you were really sure he was a liberal at heart ? Because if you knew he wasn’t a moderate you put your trust in a liar.

            Would you put your trust in your significant other, your banker, your priest, your co-workers if you knew they were lying to you ? So why your President of all people ?

            If he lied about being a moderate what makes you think he’s telling the truth about health care ? about the Stimulus ? about financial reform ? Where do you draw the line about what you are sure he is telling the truth about ?

            He lied to get power, maybe, just maybe he’s lying to get more power for himself ?

  • http://www.bigbureaucracy.com/ Ellie

    I agree that words should be used wisely – but Stewart’s F-bombs are not a good example of wisdom. Or may be he thinks they are. Then I can be smart too: Go f… yourself, Jon!

    • Young Adult

      I don’t think Stewart has claimed himself to be one of the wisest men on TV.

  • Rodney Kingish

    “Can’t we just all get along?”

    • Rodney Kingish

      Er…what I meant to say, I think, was: “Can’t we all just get along?”

  • Jim McCourt

    “Liberals don’t have five kids. One of them has down’s Syndrome. Liberals certainly don’t allow that to happen.” Wow. You’re so angry. Why? Because America, which used to be such a great country if you were male, white, wealthy and over 55 isn’t so much so anymore? Or the perception that it isn’t? That what terrifies you Bernie? And the liberals, of course, are to blame? Here is what I can tell about you and republicans currently: critical thinking is your enemy. Bertrand Russell said it best: People would rather die than think. And, often, they do. That’s you Bernie, and the majority of your christian, conservative, republican, compatriots.

    • Stephen Shields

      What hardware store do you patronize? I’m in need of a really broad brush.

      • CCNV

        “That’s you Bernie, and the majority of your christian, conservative, republican, compatriots.” You say that like it’s a BAD thing!?

        • Dave

          Yup. And I get a sense you misread “compatriots” as “patriots”, so just want to clear up that those do not mean the same thing at all.

    • Bernie

      Jimmy

      Chill. You quote the line about five kids etc. But i guess you hadn’t noticed that I’ve written in this space more than once making my position crystal clear — which is not quite what Jon Stewart would make of it. I assume, too, that you didn’t hear my explanation on Fox. Finally, I assume this: critical thinking is your enemy. You live in a bubble with like-minded shallow “thinkers.” And there’s a word I’m using loosely in your case. One more thing: your pal Jon Stewart, from whom you quote, made fun of people who generalize. Yet there you are saying that a “majority” of Christian, conservative, Republicans “would rather die than think.” I’m guessing you fancy yourself a pretty smart guy, what with the Bertrand Russell quote and all. Trust me, Jimmy: You’re playing in the minors. Get out of the bubble. Keep an open mind. There’s hope for you yet. Not much, of course. But some.

      • Jim McCourt

        You’re just a dick.

        • Stephen Shields Springfield, IL

          There’s that mature liberal response. Good use of the English language friend! I guess we know there is at least one liberal who isn’t well educated. Thanks for being the exception Jim.

          • Jack Davis

            Gad, well said, Stephen!

          • Bruce A.

            Reminds me of Jon Stewart, anybody can sit there, call people names & use the f-word. No real talent there

      • EddieD_Boston

        Give ‘em hell Bernie

    • Craig Owls

      Bernie’s Jewish.

    • regular guy

      Hey, Jim – please don’t confuse Christianity (the real stuff that is) with either political conservatives (which they are not) or republicans. The two latter groups actually share almost nothing with the former. I came here because I saw Mr. Goldberg’s rant on The Daily Show and wanted to see how his website was dealing with it. So far, I’ve seen that most of Mr. Goldberg’s supporters are closed minded and can’t conjure a meaningful arguement. They also appear to be so poorly educated they don’t know the difference between the adjective “your” and the contraction “you’re”.
      To Jim: I agree with you (with the afore noted exceptions) and to Mr. Goldberg: Enjoy your position atop of the mountain of ignorance.

      • Brent

        Do they know the difference between “arguement” and “argument?” Are they at least educated well enough to have that figured out?

  • Ken Besig Israel

    Bernie,
    I had the real pleasure of watching you on O’Reilly this morning. I was so proud of you, both as a man and Jew, on your courage, decency, and sincerity in admitting that you too were guilty of making generalizations about others and going on to recognize that generalizations are often unfair. You showed your viewers and fans like me what the true measure of a man is, and I want you to be aware of it.
    Of course John Stewart is not the problem, the problem is the clash of cultures which is taking place all over America right now of which Mr. Stewart and others like him represent totalitarian governmental control and a lack of individual responsibility, and you and others like you, who stand for free enterprise and personal responsibility.
    The reason the clash is so harsh, bitter, dirty, and uncompromising is because the outcome is so existentially important, that is, will America will remain the financial, technological, cultural, scientific, and medical leader of the world and a role model for other states, or become will America become just another failed faux European nanny state.
    The John Stewart camp is terrified, not simply concerned or a little worried, that they are about to lose the fight. They are terrified, and angry, at what they correctly interpret as a popular American uprising against their messiah and his one man/one party rule by the socialist President of the Democratic Party of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama.

    • jimmy Dore

      “The reason the clash is so harsh, bitter, dirty, and uncompromising is because the outcome is so existentially important, that is, will America will remain the financial, technological, cultural, scientific, and medical leader of the world and a role model for other states, or become will America become just another failed faux European nanny state.”

      no the reason the clash is so harsh and so bitter, is because one side of the debate does not engage in good faith. Just where are those “DEATH PANELS”. See what I mean?

      The JOn stewart camp has already won the fight, or do elections only count when republicans win? They passed healthcare, and now the country is supposed to turn into russia right? (I read this story about the boy who cried wolf when I was in 1st grade, you should check it out).

      Conservatives like bernie and you make real conservatives like Barry Goldwater roll in their grave

      • Mike

        Well said Jimmy!

        Another reason Jon won the fight? He’s a comedian and knows his forum. Fox news doesn’t like the light they shed, so news people go after comedians. Its really quite retarded, and I meant that in the Rush Limbaugh, satirical sense.

        • Young Adult

          I wouldn’t give Fox News the honor of being called fullheartedly a news organization.

          • Ballpoint Writer

            And pray tell, where did you conjure up the word: “fullheartedly”? From somewhere in another dimension?

          • Young Adult

            Same dimension where Fox News is an actual news organization.

          • mo

            Yes…where fair and balanced is what they think, not practice…..if they were really concerned with balance, where is the “other side”? I dont see a lot of liberal commentators there…do you?

      • Adjudicator

        Yes, health care passed…but I wouldn’t put much stock in “passed.”

        Obamacare, “as passed,” does not have a severability clause, which means that if only one provision of the Obamacare is found to be unconstitutional, the whole of Obamacare COULD be thrown out.

        Too, the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons lawsuit and the lawsuit filed in Mississippi (Walters, Shotwell, Conrad) raise interesting questions about how far the Commerce Clause can be stretched.

        Various and sundry other lawsuits (states attorneys-general; other private parties) also raise interesting constitutional issues.

        Yes, Obamacare passed, “but it ain’t over ’til the Supreme Court sings.”

        • Propoganda

          You still have a little brown stuff on your nose, still watching Fox News Entertainment?

          • Adjudicator

            1: Would be helpful if you spelled “propaganda” correctly.
            2: Read the court documents (which you obviously haven’t done).
            3: Disparaging remarks of the type you make add nothing germane to this discussion.

          • Propoganda

            I just find it funny that you like to credit Obama with this healthcare reform when it has been suggested plenty of times by both parties. I guess you only have bad sentiments about it passing under a Democrats term.

          • mo

            Really? Bush had the majority in 2001…..when was this addressed? EVER??!!?? You tell me when and I will apologize….

      • William Allen

        Well said Jimmy, that is the essence of
        the problem.

        Both sides have always had fringe
        elements but it seems in the conservative movement what was once
        fringe has become the mainstream voice.

        Arizona lawmakers colluding with this
        ‘birther’ nonsense, Sarah Palin’s ‘killing grandma’ rhetoric, anti
        chip-implantation legislation being taken seriously by lawmakers in
        several ‘red’ states, Fox news likening the nuclear disarmament
        graphic to the flags of Muslim nations, Mitt Romney’s cynical flip
        regarding healthcare; all percolating in a miasma of disturbing
        innuendo (talk of conservatives as being the ‘real Americans’ and
        democrats as communists and that liberals actually want America to
        fail, weapons on ostentatious display at a presidential appearance
        for God’s sake while talk of the opposition as traitors is rife).

        Political leaders like Michelle
        Bachmann adopt an apocalyptic tenor and what were once the moderate
        republican voices are too cowed to counter it.

        Sorry, but your side, and I mean
        leading commentators and politicians not the freak-show fringe, have
        tossed civil discourse aside for political expediency.

        But you already know that.

  • Ron Kean

    Good for you, Bernie

  • Ordinary Liberal

    Bernie – you giveth then you taketh away when you say: “And implying that all liberals think Middle Americans are dopes is wrong too. But you know what, it’s not nearly as wrong — because, as I said on O’Reilly’s show, way too many liberal elites look down their noses at “ordinary” Americans. ”

    The “all” was italicized. Does that mean you know two or three who think otherwise? Also, many “ordinary” Americans are liberal. I think I’m pretty ordinary and I’m very much a social liberal. I also have family members who are very caring people who are social conservatives. No explanation for it. We just see the world differently.

    • Middle American Liberal

      Here, here. I am a social liberal and I am not “elite”. I’m one of millions who, in their middle age stage of life, have lost pretty much everything due to the greed of the laize faire conservatives. I for one deeply appreciate those “liberal elites” who look down their noses far enough to see the struggles of the less fortunate rather than looking in a mirror and thinking they see everyone.

  • Bruce A.

    Now that someone mentioned generalizations.
    Is Christines blond hair natural or out of a bottle?

    • HairGuy

      It’s a wig. Online price = $4.99, which includes skull glue.

      • Kendal

        Ok…so you’re married to labels, yes? Was born blond, but had to go to salon to maintain blondness. Then discovered, after months of unemployment, that its cheaper to do it yourself….and that I am a natural brown…..Oh, and a duke graduate. I cant wait to see how this plays out…………………………

  • Kathie Ampela

    Why does anybody care what liberal elites think? I hate cocktail parties, phonies and America haters so I won’t be socializing with any of them anytime soon. As for their control of the progressive media, check out this article I found on Politico yesterday, I think their monopoly is coming to an end:

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/0410/Report_Comcast_to_acquire_rightwing_network.html?showall

    • EddieD_Boston

      Liberal elites don’t hate America. They hate Americans.

      • Propoganda

        Conservative elites hate America.

        • Dave

          Hm, I thought the general stereotypes were the other way around… Liberals hate America, Conservatives hate Americans (at least the majority who are not white, Christian and male).

  • A Rose By Any Other Name

    Who’s “Barry”?

  • http://www.bernardgoldberg.com Bernie

    I’m starting to think Christine is Wil Burns. Or his girlfriend.

    • Son of Wil Burns

      Actually, we think IT IS my dad in drag. Little Scotty is DEVASTATED. My mom? She said, “I told you so!” :-)

      • http://www.bernardgoldberg.com Bernie

        Christine Wil Burns. It has a ring to it, don’t you think?

        • Tim Ned

          Or could it be worse and Wil actually has a sister?

          • Son of Wil Burns

            That would be Auntie Mame…or, in Wil’s case, Auntie “Lame.”

        • Son of Wil Burns

          LOL, Mr. Goldberg…could be something straight out of “La Cage aux Folles”!

  • Tim

    Christine, you are a complete idiot that has no idea what your even talking about. For you to say that “ALL” racist’s are republicans just shows how big of an idiot you are. When ever it comes to racist’s it is actually you liberal democrats that are the one’s always bringing it up. Liberals have played the race card so many times now that it is now losing it’s potency with the American people. I think it is funny how you call republicans racist but it is the democrats who are always thinking about race. Why is that? I think everyone knows the real honest answer.

  • Stephen Shields

    Bernie,

    Middle American here, right in the middle of the Heartland. I don’t go bowling that often and I can’t stand Red Lobster. Red Lobster isn’t bad, I just prefer to make my own sea food or go to a “Mom & Pop” place. I guarantee that my palatte is much more sophisticated than most people in New England. For the record, our President’s favorite chef is here in Springfield, and he is hte most elite liberal of them all

    There is no denying the FACT that people in the midwest and south are kinder and more polite. Perhaps we are a little more naive, but we aren’t stupid. It never fails, every time I go out east or west, there is always some jerk who speaks to me like I’m mentally challenged. If you think those generalizations are bad, read some of the comments in the opinion section here: http://www.sj-r.com/

    Please don’t take what I’m about to tell you the wrong way. I’m only playing devil’s advocate to prepare you. I agree one hundered percent with what you have said, because I’ve experienced it. Your use of the word “but” puts a stipulation on your apology. I’m sorry, I was wrong, but… I know that isn’t how you meant it, but as a second set of eyes, some can and will twist your words.

  • christine

    Haha…google is convenient, isn’t it!!!!! Wow!!!! Read the statement carefully, marinate, then react……jeez!!! I must be stupid….I guess only Barry can have fun with generalizations here, huh? There is really no 360 views here, are there? Hay Barry ; quid pro quo…..you ask Cheney or rove a hard hitting question, then stewart will do the same with Rich.

    • CCNV

      Failed English class, didn’t you Sweetie?

      • christine

        You mean my havard English class? Since ALL liberals go there….see! Fun with generalizations!!!!! Come on!!!! You know you want to share yours!!!!!

        • Stephen Shields

          WHY!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!! ALWAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YELLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Take a downer for crying out loud!

          • CCNV

            No, Sweetie, I don’t think ALL Liberals went to Harvard. I think some are on Welfare.

          • Kevin

            Ok Punkin, way to prove her point. Condescension, thy name is CCNV. Are you sure your not a liberal? You have that elite thing down pat.

          • Anonymous

            So, Kevin. Are you here because you need validation? Or, do you just want to see your comment in print?

          • CCNV

            Kevin, I see you understand sarcasm. Good boy! That’s an accomplishment when Liberals usually have no sense of humor. You should get a diary.

          • Kevin

            Awww, come down here with the rest of us “real” Americans, wontcha?

            Although I do see the difference between condescension and sarcasm, thanks. I know sarcasm sounds better, but just call a spade a spade. No need for your high horse. At the end of the day, blog comments just dont matter and I think no more of you than you do of me. But it is a fun way to kill time while your car is being serviced!!!!

          • CCNV

            Must be one of those ‘green’ cars…

            The problem is, you want to force your opinion on us. Put forth some facts in this column to disprove the Conservative way of thinking, and let’s have a good old debate.

          • Kevin

            And what opinion, exactly, has been forced on you? That generalizations cut both ways? What I saw here was a bunch of people reacting to a generalization that irked them beyond reason! (“Not all repubs are racist, but all racists are repub. Absurd as all generalizations are.)And it was funny, which is what comedians do; highlight the funny!
            I jst find it amusing that a newsman is trying to win a fight against a comedian?!?!?! One should stick with news, the other to satire. One does it, the other gets butt hurt when they do.

          • Propoganda

            Yea liberals have no sense of humor, that’s why they watch The Daily Show and laugh as news commentators try to denounce Jon Stewart for his news, even though he’s a comedian. And you have the Conservative Propoganda Channel taking comedic remarks so seriously.

            Nice condescending tone though CCNV.

          • Middle American Liberal

            Wow. Really full yourself, aren’t you? If you were a liberal, you could share some of your incredible greatness instead of keeping it all for yourself.

          • Mike

            You!!!!! Idiot!!!!!

            Oh wait…..all CAPS is yelling, multiple punctuation is emphatic. Subtle but different.

          • Stephen Shields

            More name calling. Keep up the civility!

    • Stephen Shields

      When BERNIE becomes and apologist for Cheney or Rove, then your argument will be valid. By the way, you guessed right.

    • Ron Kean

      christine,
      The more you come here, the more you’ll learn.
      Then maybe you won’t be as contrary.

      • christine

        Learn? Really? Because so far the only thing I’ve learned is that condescention and holier than thou arguments are alive and well in the republican party. Humility and curiousity as to why someone sees things differently is cast aside in favor of name calling and marginalizing. That’s what I have learned….Congrats!!!!!

        • CCNV

          Did you really mean the Democratic (Liberal) Party?

          • Jack Davis

            I’m an Independent, so most criticism leveled in here OBVIOUSLY isn’t for me. :-)

          • alice

            no she got it right. nice try tho

          • Jack Davis

            Thanks! :-)

          • Ajudicator

            “Alice doesn’t live here anymore” or “Alice’s Restaurant”?

        • Stephen Shields Springfield, IL

          “Humility and curiousity as to why someone sees things differently is cast aside in favor of name calling and marginalizing.”

          Pot meet kettle. You can be a raging tree hugging liberal. Good, at least someone is caring about the trees and the environment. Did it ever cross your mind, just for one second, that you are doing the very thing you are accusing others of doing? I guess the term Tea Bagger is ok isn’t it?

          • Christine

            Calling members of the tea bag movement “tea baggers” is bad? Hmmm, guess I better not get my info from the signs they carry.

          • Stephen Shields

            It’s called the “tea party”. Please show me a sign where a Tea Partier held a sign that referred to themselves as Tea Bagger. You know exactly why you call them that. It’s not funny and it shows just how immature and uneducated you really are. So, Jim has a poor vocabulary and Christine can’t read Tea Partier signs. I guess there are two exceptions to Bernie’s assertion that all liberals have a Harvard education.

          • Christine

            Stephan….so angry and mean!!! But hey, you’re a republican. Its what you do. To be honest I didnt know “teabagger” would get your panties in a wad. The racist thing, I knew would….. But then again, I dont watch cable news. After looking it up online, its kind of funny…..but hey, the Oxford American Dictionary made the same mistake.

            http://www.mediaite.com/online/cue-outrage-teabagger-is-an-oxford-word-of-the-year-finalist/

          • Stephen Shields Springfield, IL

            I see you can’t spell either. Have I said I was a Republican? No, I didn’t think so. Have I mentioned race? No, you did. Funny how race is always tossed from the left side of the aisle. Just goes to show how low you can go. I expect nothing less.

          • Christine

            Actually, Bernie mentioned race and I commented and drew your ire,(weird) but way to pay attention…… Maybe its a valuable exercise to examine how much certain generalizations bother you, while others dont. I believe they call that “cherry picking”.

          • Stephen Shields Springfield, IL

            Where did I complain to you about generalizations? I see along with not being able to read or spell, comprehension isn’t your strong suit either. I’ll take it apart step by step.

            You wrote, “Humility and curiousity as to why someone sees things differently is cast aside in favor of name calling and marginalizing.” This comes after you call all racists Republicans. I mean really Jeremiah Wright doesn’t strike you as a racist? Here is a link to a search done on You Tube. Perhaps you can see what a racist really sounds like.

            http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Jeremiah+Wright&aq=f

            I’d also like you to inform me what generalizations don’t bother me, since you are making my mind up for me and all. I guess that’s a liberal trait. You seem to know what does and does not bother me, and President Obama seems to know what is best for me.

        • Middle American Liberal

          Love ya, Christine!

  • HollyBerry77

    I’m sorry you feel that way, Christine. If only you’d do a little research and find out which side the racists truly reside on. It’s time you catch up with our modern times and realize that the false stereotypes of old have crumbled and unlike the left, our side has way more diversity of thought than the libs/leftys you are pitifully trying to defend.

    • Dave

      One of the main strengths of the Republicans though is the lack of diversity in their message – it helps keep the coalition together. The Republican constituency consists of social conservatives and libertarians, but overall Republican politicians have shown remarkable discipline in keeping on message. Democrats on the other hand can’t seem to agree on anything, and getting them to all vote on a measure is a bit like herding cats.

  • Bill

    Really Christine? What about Louis Farrakan or Jeremiah Wright…..hmmmmmm….. Thought before writing something is encouraged,

  • Jack Davis

    You should get a Pulitzer for this column, Bernie. It’s SUPERB!

    Do let us know if Stewart “mans up” and rises to your challenge. I doubt that he will.

    But keep these EXCELLENT columns coming! I depend on you to keep me up to date on these matters, since I don’t waste time watching or listening to people who are legends only in their own minds.

  • christine

    Right….and tea baggers are soooo accomodating to other points of view….not!!! Barry, it’s so funny to me how, well, hypocritical you really are, so how about I share this generalization with you; not all republicans are racist, but ALL racists are republican. Coincidence?

    • Dede

      All racists are republican? Can we say Robert Byrd? That is absolutely ridiculous. Are there racists who are republicans, tea partiers, independants? Of course…but there are dems who are too..that’s just stupid.

    • Paul Borden

      I knew someone named Christine who was an idiot. So tell me, are all people named Christine idiots, or are ALL idiots named Christine?

      • http://www.bernardgoldberg.com Bernie

        Paul

        PERFECT!

      • Clegg

        So all racists are Republican? Not so fast — Do you remember so many of the liberals saying that if we did not elect Barack Obama then we would be considered as a nation of racists bigots? Do you remember the liberals who voted for Obama for the sole fact that he was black, in order to secure a historical moment? And how do you explain the some of the black democrats who voted for Obama only because he was black? They’re not Republicans. Racism comes from all political spectrums, and if you don’t believe me check out some of Rev. Wright, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton’s statements. People speak as if racism is a one sided issue that only whites hate blacks, but in fact racism can swing both ways and if you don’t see that, then you need to “wise up” as O’Reilly would say.

        • Kendal

          Yea, I don’t know a soul who said that. And I read drudge

    • Scott

      To say that ALL racists are Republicans is to say that NO racists are Democrats or Independents, which, of course is a ludicrous statement. In fact, it is so ridiculously out of touch with reality that I will not waste any more time addressing that statement.

      It also makes no sense to accuse Mr. Goldberg of being “hypocritical” when he, not only in this instance, admits when he is wrong. Sounds like the actions of someone who embraces logic, reason, and reality to me.

      Your bigoted sexual slurs of the Tea Partiers, of which I happen to be a member, shows YOUR hypocrisy.

    • Stephen Shields

      Not all short sited people are liberals, but all liberals are short sited.

    • Ron Kean

      Well, you’re new.

      Which is about the nicest thing I want to say.

      • Middle American Liberal

        It’s amazing that so many of you are so venomous that you can’t recognize sarcasm. Stop taking yourselves so seriously. If any of you are Christians (or Jewish or Muslems) you should know it’s wrong to judge others. None of is better than another, and we truly are all in this together. Why don’t we all drop the pretense that we know better than the other and actually try to make things better for everyone. Would we be better off to help the less fortunate become productive, or trample them under foot as we enrich ourselves? Bigotry, exclusionism, racism, ignorance, selfishness and elitism are all alive and well in America – and here.

        • Christine

          Now THAT is seksi!!!!!!

        • Stephen Shields

          So we shouldn’t get upset for Christine’s egregious comments because it is sarcasm? Then you give us a lecture in civility followed by a laundry list (bigotry, exclusionism, racism, ignorance, selfishness and elitism) of accusations. Mr./Ms./Mrs. Middle American Liberal, er… contradict much?

    • Ster

      You know history, no? I guess not.

      The KKK? = democrat
      Bull Connor = Democrat
      Who FILIBUSTERED the 1964 Civil Rights Act? = democrats
      Who was a KKK Grand Kleagle and STILL in the senate? = A Democrat
      Who, when defeated, set up the welfare system to keep CERTAIN minorities dependent and DOWN? = democrats