If Donald Sterling Can Lose His Job for Racist Remarks Uttered in Private, Why Can’t You?

BannedSo Donald Sterling got what amounts to the death sentence.  Banned for life by the NBA.  His ugly remarks are proof, as I’ve said before, not that racism is alive and well in America, but rather that racism is on its last leg.  The man has been publicly branded a pariah.  The American people have made him an outcast.  You think any of that would have happened if we really were a racist nation, as some would have us believe?

But now that he’s gone, I’m wondering who else among us has said things in the privacy of our homes that would get us in trouble if somebody recorded them and made our remarks public.

Rest assured, I’ve never ever said anything that might even vaguely be construed as politically incorrect.  But I’ll bet you have.

And I’ll bet a lot of players in the NBA have.

I’ll bet a lot of politicians have, too.

I’ll bet white people have and black people have and Latino people have and straight people have and gay people have.

So what lesson should we take of the public flogging of Donald Sterling, as deserved as it was?

How about this:  If anyone – an accountant, a garbage man, an MSNBC host, a college professor, an attorney general, a president, a truck driver … anyone! … says something racist in the privacy of his or her home, and if it somehow becomes public information, that person should lose his or her job and his or her livelihood – because racist words cannot be tolerated in America, not in 2014.

I understand that Sterling had a high-profile job and that the NBA is pretty much a black league.  So his dumb remarks were especially hurtful. But if we want to stamp out racism, what better way than to hold everybody accountable for what they say – no matter where they say it!

I am confused, however, about why there is no universal condemnation of athletes who father children in every city in the league.  Or of athletes who beat up their girlfriends.  Or of athletes who drive drunk and kill people.  I guess none of those things warrant the moral outrage that bigoted words uttered by a foolish old man in private warrant.

But let me be clear:  I’m outraged over what Donald Sterling said.  Really, really outraged.  I say this because if anyone thinks I’m less than really, really outraged because of anything I’ve written here, I might get in really, really big trouble.

One more thing:  Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wrote a piece for Time magazine about Sterling and racism. After making clear his disgust with the now-banned owner of the Clippers, Abdul-Jabbar writes this:

“Shouldn’t we be equally angered by the fact that his private, intimate conversation was taped and then leaked to the media? Didn’t we just call to task the NSA for intruding into American citizen’s privacy in such an un-American way? Although the impact is similar to Mitt Romney’s comments that were secretly taped, the difference is that Romney was giving a public speech. The making and release of this tape is so sleazy that just listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to the crime. We didn’t steal the cake but we’re all gorging ourselves on it.”

Nicely put, Kareem!

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  • http://www.biggerfatterpolitics.blogspot.com BiggerFatterPolitics

    Blacks are mentally healthier than Whites

    Click Here Mental Health By Race

    It’s not race it is culture. Black culture stinks. People who want to avoid Blacks are not usually racists. True racist would hate every race but their own. Very few Whites have a problem with Asians. Sterling is not technically a racist. His concubine is not White. A true racist would not be with someone of another race..

  • Llaloba Solitaria

    Although I disagree with Mr. Sterling, I feel that his right to free speech was violated. Can this now happen to anybody? Scary to think that a trite phone conversation, made in the privacy of one’s own home can create such an “outrage”…..Who cares if he doesn’t like Magic? Who does Magic dislike? Who cares?

  • Mary123s

    This part of the double standard that I as a black woman do not like. Everyone is wetting themselves over the possibility of Oprah owning the clippers just because she’s black. And Bernard is right. I see such racism coming from non-whites everyday and I believe our ancestors are shaking their heads in shame.

    Kudos for Kareem. He is right. Just because Sterling said horrid things (as well and open and direct race discrimination with the properties he owned), the fact is we are no longer have true privacy. Everyone must walk in lockstep to the True Cause (never mind the open hypocrisy, like the NAACP granting him 2 awards because he gave them money — which side are they on???)

    We libs have become arrogant and less than tolerant since Clinton, and worse since Obama has been in office. We act like we are the chosen people, and can change the rules to fit our favorite POV and punish those who even show a little disagreement. But we may not be in power for long and how would we feel when the other side plays the same game as we have?

    • legal eagle

      You may have become more arrogant…Don’t speak for others..

      • wally12

        mary123s is correct. You make it sound as though libs are not arrogant. Obama is and many are but not all libs are not. I believe she meant that many are.

    • Guest

      I love this comment so much…
      I, as a conservative, am quite content with how REAL this comment is from an honest liberal. Not sure if I agree that liberals are extremely intolerant people… but to a small extent i believe that to be true.

  • bigmoejr

    I would guess that at some point –IF not already the NSA has compiled or is compiling a data bank of e-mails and phone conversations for prosecution of thoughts and conversations. Bet these columns on the internet associated with Fox Media related blogs are in or on their way to Holder.
    Communism comes to mind. First Amendment doesn’t. Won’t be long till Chris Rock runs his mouth about it, but that’ll be ok. It’s OK to say anything if you’re a non-white comedian on HBO. Nice to see you’re so proud of what the Muslem had to say.

  • Torsh Johansen

    Many people will lose their jobs if it’s aired publicly, when the taping was Legal. Yep.

    But here’s the kicker — Sterling signed & agreed to the NBA constitutional rules, that one may be forced to sell if they break a variety of rules. If you were to have asked him a long time ago when he signed it: “If one of the owners was 100% legally recorded by someone who worked with him, not to bring any black guys to his games and not to hang out with any of them and going off about them — and that ruins the image of the club obviously too — do you think that would be enough for him to force selling the club?”

    He would have laughed and said “Of course!”. Decades later… well… not so much because it’s him. :)

  • fiffles

    You got it wrong, Mr. Goldberg. Although he is without question the scum of the earth, Donald Sterling didn’t lose his job. He lost–or is losing–his membership in an exclusive club which, unless and until its bylaws change enjoys the right to decide who will become, then continue to be a member. Can the NBA constitutionally exclude a racist pig? Probably; but the question may spend a while in court.

  • Wheels55

    Proof that people love to hate. They love to hate anyone that offends them. They love to go overboard as if that action will make things right. Yes, Sterling was an idiot for thinking he could trust his granddaughter-aged mistress and that what he says would not out in public. But, what he said was in a private conversation.
    Proof that there is no privacy anymore. Are we really free in this country?

  • krscott7

    If anyone agrees then fire & hold accountable the black male that was very racist that tried to get me hurt and killed that got me fired just because he got mad because I would not have sex or go out with him! Forcing someone is a rapist!

  • scott autry

    “The making and release of this tape is so sleazy that just listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to the crime.”

    OK but so what? There are laws that penalize someone for secretly recording someone then making it public, I believe. Even more so in civil courts, I’d bet.

    But, defending someone’s right to private speech does not prohibit a reaction to that speech if it does become public knowledge. Once the cat got let out of the bag, the NBA either did or didn’t have a legal right to punish the man for his speech/thoughts…

    • 633

      Secretly taping someone in California is illegal but rarely prosecuted. However to the extent there is personal injury, the aggrieved party can sue for triple damages. His girlfriend will regret that taped release I suspect.: Sterling and his wife are litigious co-owners of the Clippers, and both have lots of money and many lawyers. And the forced sale of an NBA franchise, while legally dubious, will certainly offer an opportunity tp pursue a claim.

  • scott autry

    I’m having some trouble here with consistency – not just with Goldberg but perhaps myself as well.

    Didn’t we (generic we) say it was fine and dandy for the Duck Dynasty guy to perhaps lose his job because of something he said in an interview? Is the fact that it was an interview/public make that much difference? Or, is homosexuality different from race?

    I still say neither is a Free Speech issue – technically speaking. That involves the government stepping in to silence people, and because of the nature of our Constitution and socio-political development, we are loath to see the gov involved in regulating speech though of course it does at least to a small extent.

    I’m not sure, technically speaking, whether the Duck Dynasty guy was legally protected due to the Equal Opportunity Law which strictly prohibits discrimination against religion within the workplace.

    But, outside of legal technicalities, what are we saying in these different cases?

    Can it be acceptable that the Duck Dynasty guy could have lost his job but this NBA guy shouldn’t be banned for life and have a business enterprise ripped from him? I don’t see how. What the heck kind of free speech do we have if we can’t say in public, or be honest in an interview, what we might say in privacy of our homes?

    I’m not sure how I fit on the consistency thing with these different cases. I do know one thing, consistency shouldn’t be based on whether I find something offensive or not… Free Speech, the legal concept or social one, can’t be dependent on my own personal prejudices.

    The NBA is an enterprise. Should a company or the like be able to fire someone, or not hire them, for a person’s beliefs? And that is basically what we’re talking about here. Free Speech in the general sense means also Freedom of Thought. The racist owner represents the NBA. Does the NBA have a right to get rid of someone whose views fall far beyond the business’ core values and/or whose views stand to drive away customers or cause serious financial losses some other way?

    I’m not a big fan of penalizing people for what the think – in general. I’d probably do it myself if I had power within an org or business, but the ideal of Free Speech is so ingrained in our culture, and I’m happy about that, I fret when I hear real world cases like this.

    I guess, all things considered, I believe the NBA should have the right to do what it did. For that matter, I think the Duck Dynasty employer should have been able to fire him too (though the law seems to say differently).

    I don’t want to see the courts deciding what is and isn’t acceptable Free Speech – which is what we would have if every business could fire this guy for what he said but not that one…

    I much prefer the court of public opinion be the ultimate judge:

    So, if the NBA yanks away a guy’s business because – say – he says negative things about homosexuals, I’d rather the NBA’s consumers decide whether they agree or disagree with it. Consumers can vote with their money. Some Christian groups were outraged at TV’s Soap and organized campaigns to go after the network’s sponsors and that led to the end of the show. If the US is still largely a Christian nation, people with Christian beliefs have some form of non-legal protection against such discrimination as the NBA taking away someone’s franchise for their Bible-taught beliefs…

    The same goes for race: If the society were still largely racist, as it certainly was in the past, then the NBA would pay a stiff price for firing a racist…Or, it wouldn’t have happened in the first place…

    In this same way – the society will vote from its wallet concerning what level of political correctness is or isn’t acceptable…

    It doesn’t matter to me whether the NBA guy voiced his beliefs in private or live on TV or when some journalist posed a question to him, because speech is just verbalized thought. It makes no sense to me that private speech is protected but public is not (once what someone said in private becomes public knowledge).

    Let the overall society decide whether a company has gone too far in political correctness…

    • 633

      Sterling’s future depends on the NBA franchise agreement. If he legally is bound by a clear statement that his franchise is conferred at the discretion of the NBA, than he can be forced to sell. There is precedent: see the Cincinnati Reds and Marge. However if there is no mutual obligation commitment allowing the NBA ownership association to compel his ban, they’re going to have a hard time getting rid of him (and the status of his estranged wife as co-owner is also a factor)He is rich, litigious, and likely failing intellectually-which means he may not care about anything anyone else has to say..I don’t understand why the media hasn’t referenced his legal status, except they prefer to dwell on his statements as if they are so heinous that they justify any penalty regardless of legal circumstance.

  • ZZ_Topgear

    Why didn’t the NBA run Sterling in 2006? The court case he lost was far more damning. Stern should have drummed him then. Seems like now that the Clippers have been established as the best NBA team in the LA people want to the team.

    • 633

      See my comment above. I suspect the NBA legal status to do what you propose is dubious.

  • Sam

    Thanks Bernie, Now I know I’m not nuts!

  • Tim Ned

    “I am confused, however, about why there is no universal condemnation of athletes who father children in every city in the league.”

    In the case of Adrian Peterson, they get invited to attend the White House Correspondence Dinner.

    http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/257484631.html

    • legal eagle

      Universal condemnation? There might be if Petersen was a deadbeat….If he supports his children financially what exactly should be condemned?

      • tim Ned

        Google the death of a son he never know he had. One of his child mothers says he has seven.

        • legal eagle

          He did get plenty of negative press after the son died….What else would you like to happen? Did he commit any crimes?

          • Tim Ned

            Very very little negative press. And the press was no where close as negative as they are with Sterling. But let me be clear as well, I am really really outraged over what Sterling said.

          • legal eagle

            What does Adrian Peterson’s children have to do with Adrian Peterson? A billionaire bigot who owns an NBA team is the equivalent of a football player with lots of kids?
            What’s your point?

          • Tim Ned

            Read this article since you didn’t. This is exactly the subject matter.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Legal Eagle doesn’t read articles, Ted. He just comments on them. He thinks it makes him a rebel.

      • Jeff Webb

        >>If he supports his children financially what exactly should be condemned?<<

        I guess I shouldn't be surprised you think there's no problem with children having no dad at home as long as he sends the checks.

        • legal eagle

          Would you like to condemn divorced parents? Would you like to ban gay adoption?
          It might be a “problem” but what’s your point? Would you suggest a forced vasectomy?….LOL

          • tim ned

            This is isn’t about divorce or gay adoption but, a vasectomy would be a good start. Like my college hockey coach used to say; “learn to control your stick, on and off the ice”.

          • legal eagle

            I don’t care if Adrian Petersen has more kids than the Duggars…
            Does Petersen get two minutes for high sticking?…LOL

          • Jeff Webb

            >>I don’t care if Adrian Petersen has more kids than the Duggars…<<

            No need to mention that. It's no secret you couldn't care less about fatherless black children.

          • Ron F

            Why is Adrian Petersen’s race relevant to the issue apparently of his having numerous children out of wedlock with I assume different women?

          • Jeff Webb

            T’isn’t. I just make it a point to remind LE he’s a racist.

          • Jeff Webb

            Hey, easy there, precious. I just pointed out you said it’s no big deal for a kid’s father not to be around if he’s sending the support checks. If you think that shouldn’t be condemned, more power to you.

      • ZZ_Topgear

        AP is an emotional deadbeat. If you can’t be there for your kids, you’re damaging them. If you continuously impregnate casual acquaintances when there are methods to prevent it, you’re a sociopath. I’m glad he’s sending money, but NFL players tend to go broke at rate north of 75% so even that could go away before they reach adulthood. Then they’ll just be 6-10 more fatherless poor children.

  • buckrodgers

    It’s a sad day for basketball, not for what Sterling said, but now the NBA is going to be forced to defend owners,players and anybody else associated with the game, when they say something somebody else finds offensive, that’s what happens when you pick and choose who’s a racist and who’s not, that’s why racism still exists in America today, Justice Roberts said if you want to stop discrimination then stop discriminating, so if you want to stop racism then don’t justify your own bigotry, by calling someone else a racist.

    • legal eagle

      Players actions are covered by a Union agreement.
      Justice Roberts’ view of racism differs greatly with Justice Sotomayor….Roberts believes discrimination is no longer an issue in America…I’m not sure what make him an authority on the subject..

      • Jeff Webb

        >>Justice Roberts’ view of racism differs greatly with Justice Sotomayor.<<

        Indeed. Unlike Judge Roberts, Sotomayor is a racist.

        • legal eagle

          Wash, rinse, repeat…the only racism in America is “reverse racism”…

          • Jeff Webb

            “Reverse?” No, it’s just racism, whether it comes from you, Sterling, or Sotomayor.
            Oh, and all that supposed racism you claimed comes from FNC every day, of course.

    • legal eagle

      Sterling chose not to apologize….If he wanted to diffuse the matter all he had to do was say he was sorry….Obviously, Sterling is not sorry and therefore, the league and the NBA players association is being forced to act….

  • Ryan Nichols

    Jayz part owner of the Brooklyn Nets. Has said worse. Much worse. Another racist in a ownership roll in the NBA.

    • legal eagle

      Jay Z is no longer an owner…..sorry to burst your bubble…LOL

      • Ryan Nichols

        Matters none really he was an owner. He is a racist. He’s still involved in the NBA. Where’s his lifetime ban? Jayz is far worse in his description of the opposite race than what the Sterling tape shows. They both should be banned.

        • legal eagle

          How is he involved in the NBA? Do you just make this stuff up?

          • Ryan Nichols

            Maybe you should find out.. He was forced to sell because of it.

          • legal eagle

            It would appear that you don’t really care about the facts……stay ignorant..

          • Ryan Nichols

            And there’s your typical childish response. It would appear that you have no clue what you’re even debating, nor defending. It would also appear that you don’t know the meaning of fact.. Stay oblivious. .

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            It’s only a fact if it comes out of Jay Carney’s mouth. That’s the rule Legal Eagle chooses to live by.

            The poor guy most have been absent of role models growing up.

  • Sadiqa Thornton

    Women are fired and called whores when they are illegally taped having sex. They are whores, they “should of known better” and the sleaze who committed the crime cashes in and this sexist turd box of a society just calls it porn. How about this, apply this to every clip of pornography, do not watch unless you can verify full legal consent to the release of her image.

    • Josh

      I don’t know. Maybe that’s the case in some places today. No doubt it was the case in the days of Mad Men. But look at Kim Kardashian. She and her entire family became American royalty for nothing more than a sex tape. I’m sure it doesn’t play well in the Bible Belt that Kim has screwed more men than divorce settlements, but the rest of society absolutely adores the idea of this “whore” you paint. Skimpy clothing, raunchy lyrics, promiscuity for promiscuity’s sake — America eats it up.

      Women are also the ones catapulted to stardom from porn, and it’s been like that since Linda Lovelace. Who do the men have? Ron Jeremy?

      Forgive me if I’m reading you wrong here, but you seem to be painting a “porn-is-oppressive” picture. That might be true in the cases where men secretly film it and release it. But it’s paying an awful lot of bills for an awful lot of women who gladly parade it out there. And who calls them “whores” that actually matters?

  • rodecky .

    Remarks made in a whack jealous rage.

  • anonymous

    I would say that there is universal condemnation of all those other bad acts cited in the article, and there are criminal penalties for those. Unfortunately, the justice system is far from perfect, and some guilty get away and some innocent get punished wrongly. But 10 wrongs do not make a right.

    It is true that there have always been racist jerks. It becomes a bigger problem when they have power and money and influence, especially now that the Supreme Court has decided that “the voter is less important than the man who provides money to the candidate.”

    Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequences for your actions. http://xkcd.com/1357/

    It is true that it is a “private” matter and it is up to the NBA to handle it according to its own internal rules. But people like to watch tv, and this makes good tv.

  • Ron F

    I can understand the fine and the suspension. The NBA should not be able to make him sell the team. If it can, they should have to indemnify him for the capital gains tax, which would be several hundred million dollars, that he would not have to pay if his interest transferred on his death.

  • Lougjr1

    OK Bernie, you made my point for me so I can save my breath, albeit I feel I just have to say something. I hate all bigots both black and white ETC. In America with so many people from all across the world and with so many different faces and colors it abhors me that there is still some people who think they are better than anyone else. This was supposed to be the melting pot for all those people around the world who wished to escape horror and persecution in their own land.
    I’m glad my mother and immigrant father taught me to respect all people no matter who or what they looked like. Therefor I have never had a problem in all my years. All one has to do is , give everyone the same respect and you will always get it back. At least most of the time !!

  • jason

    freedom of speech is being violated on so many levels. i not for what he said but he has the right to say anything he wants is long as it not threatening a person. you cant choose witch parts of the constitution you want to fallow that’s called being a commie.

  • Frank

    I’m all for punishing racism but it has to be equally distributed among all races if it is to work in this country. We currently only ban whites from being racists, all other races are allowed to publicly push their racist agendas. For instance how can a non-racist country allow BET TV, or an all black Annie musical. What would happen if there was a WET TV? I’m sure banning would be involved. Double standards is the killer of removing racism all together, in fact, this double standard is actually making more whites irate with racist views not less.

    • AnMar22

      Frank, you make sense. The Congressional Black Caucus should be abolished; after all, that’s separatism, too. obama (lower case deliberate) has made sure he and his cronies have blasted us with their racisim. Let’s all grow up!!! “the content of their character, not the color of their skin”…both ways.

    • legal eagle

      Unfortunately , your attitudes on race are typical of right wing Republicans…..

      http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/

      • Jeff Webb

        >>Unfortunately , your attitudes on race are typical of right wing Republicans…..<<

        We're against treating people differently based on skin color, just like Dr. King. Racists like you naturally would find that unfortunate.

        • legal eagle

          Did you read the survey I posted a link to?
          “we’re against treating people differently”…Who made you spokesman? LMAO

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Did you read the survey I posted a link to?<>”we’re against treating people differently”…Who made you spokesman? LMAO<<

            If you think THAT'S funny, there's a feverishly partisan, white liberal around here who fancies himself an expert on black people's struggles and a mind reader.

          • D Parri

            Goes by the name of Legal Weasel?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>If you think THAT’S funny, there’s a feverishly partisan, white liberal around here who fancies himself an expert on black people’s struggles and a mind reader.

            Wait just a minute, Jeff… Legal Eagle grew up on the streets! That means he has cred!

          • legal eagle

            http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/
            I know you’re not that bright but you can read a graph…can’t you?

          • Lloydl333

            Did anyone ever tell you that you are an elitist pr**k?

          • legal eagle

            And that makes you what, a blue collar yokel?…
            Perfect Tea Party follower….LOL

          • Lloydl333

            You are a gutless wonder. You have no idea WHO I am.

            You don’t use your name. Coward.

            Stay in your basement and keep calling people names.

            I have one for you TO YOUR FACE….

            Coward unhappy A-hole.

          • legal eagle

            Seems like you’re a bit perturbed…..Have a glass or two of wine and watch the Kentucky Derby…..

          • Jeff Webb

            Still waiting for all those examples of FNC racism, LE.

            Of course, if you’d rather admit tacitly you lied, just don’t post the list.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Getting him to admit he lies is like getting a fish to admit he’s wet.

          • legal eagle

            Wow you and Webb ganging up on me…. that’s an impressive display of reality from Frick and Frack….

          • legal eagle

            I’ll ask once more…how many examples would you like me to cite? If you can’t be bothered responding then stop bring it up.
            I give a crap if you call me a liar? What are you three years old? I know it’s hot in San Diego but you’re OCD is showing…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Are you honestly telling us that Bill O’Reilly criticizing Beyonce was your example? I thought that was a joke.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>I’ll ask once more…how many examples would you like me to cite? If you can’t be bothered responding then stop bring it up.<>I give a crap if you call me a liar?<<

            If you're truly honest, and you deplore racism, and are certain you've seen an abundance of it on FNC, and are equally certain this conservative is wrong, you would absolutely want to prove you're telling the truth.

          • legal eagle

            “Are you honestly telling us that Bill O’Reilly criticizing Beyonce was your example? I thought that was a joke.”

            As you see no racism except “reverse racism” I will respectfully pass on wasting my time and yours….

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Respectfully pass? You got called out on your lies and now you’re running off with your tail between your legs.

            Don’t you ever get tired of humiliating yourself?

          • legal eagle

            “Abdul-Jabbar: ‘More Whites Believe in Ghosts Than Believe in Racism’”

            This quote from Kareem applies to you and your fellow cult members……..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Actually it doesn’t. Racism is real. I’ve never heard anyone claim otherwise. And if someone didn’t believe it was real, all they would have to do is read your comments on this website, where you wrote that white people are smarter than black people, and see that it is indeed real.

            You see, you serve a purpose after all.

            Now, please run off again like a child, and refuse to take responsibility for your own words.

          • Jeff Webb

            Yeah, just like I figured.

            Poor LE, long ago exposed as a bigot, now exposed as a lying coward.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            He was exposed as a liar quite some time ago, actually. lol.

          • Lloydl333

            Not perturbed, just tired of trying to have an exchange of ideas. You waste a person’s time. You are not worth being perturbed about.

          • legal eagle

            You’re not exchanging ideas…you’re spewing fear and hate….

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Are you censuring yourself here? lol.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Sorry about legal eagle, Lloyd. He’s our village idiot.

          • Tim Ned

            You obviously didn’t read your own link did you? The stats follow an identical curve in both demographics. Did you read the research behind it and summaries?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            He has a history of posting links to information that debunks his own claims. It’s hilarious.

          • legal eagle

            and you’re a [crude term removed by moderator to spare poster the embarrassment of sticking with a terribly whiny comeback] ….

          • legal eagle

            http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/
            The curve is certainly not identical…Higher negative attitudes by Republicans…..

          • Tim Ned

            Yup, it’s like one drunk pointing out the other who is drunker than himself. .10 or .20, they’re both drunk.

            It would be interesting, and very educational, to have a comparison of this identical chart across all ethnic groups in America.

          • legal eagle
          • Tim Ned

            I don’t believe you got the point of my post. The survey you sited doesn’t show well for either party. I guess using the analysis of who’s drunker didn’t hit home either.

            Don’t know the point of this, but the worst racism is in European Football (soccer). I have witnessed it first hand. I am a big hockey fan as I grew up in a Hockey family. Unfortunately there are dirt bags watching hockey games as well.

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_association_football

          • legal eagle

            It’s comparative. I understand your point but the point of the survey is the link between political affiliation and racial attitudes…
            As a long time NY Rangers fan I am always amazed how some fans can afford the overpriced tickets at MSG?….LOL

          • tim ned

            No, it’s white republicans and white democrats. It’s a survey designed in the 70’s and it’s out dated and a poor generalization. If they want real facts they need to perform a similar survey across ethnic lines. I think the results would be extremely interesting.

            It pretty much proves, if you are using this survey as some type of litmus test, that both democrats and republicans are racists if used in the context that you brought into this thread.

            In other words, you have your share of drunks, so do we.

          • legal eagle

            Obviously the survey is beyond you’re comprehension….Maybe you’re grandchildren can explain it to you?…LOL

          • tim ned

            My one year old grandson would have a better grasp than you.

          • Jeff Webb

            Maybe you can explain how someone who regularly misuses “your” and “you’re” has the right to insult others’ reading skills.

          • legal eagle

            You’ll have to discuss it with spellcheck….

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Spellcheck? I’m surprised you didn’t blame it on the Tea Party.

          • legal eagle

            Are you and Webb one and the same or is this a “frick and frack” type of tag team? LOL

          • Jeff Webb

            Spellcheck causes you to pick words incorrectly?

          • Drew Page

            And this scientific “curve” is your rationale for condemning Republicans.

            You know, this penchant of yours of constantly bashing anything and everything “Republican”, “conservative” or “Tea Party” is as bad as someone denigrating all of any group as somehow inferior to your preferred group.

          • legal eagle

            And your penchant for bashing anything and everything “liberal” or “Democrat” is different?

        • Lloydl333

          He doesn’t seem to like ANYONE. I could have sworn he is a Progressive.

          I suspect he is an English teacher. He just wants to argue.

          He won’t state his opinion he just wants to pick on HOW you say your opinion.

      • Drew Page

        eagle — Did you actually read the article you referenced, or just the head line? First of all, the headline asks a question, it doesn’t state a fact. In the “poll” it says 6% of Republicans said they wouldn’t vote for a black president as opposed to only 3% of Democrats gave the same answer. And on the basis of this “scientific” evidence you reduce all “right wing Republicans” to a bigoted stereotype. Of course you get to decide who the “right wing Republicans” are. So you set yourself up to be the arbiter of who is and isn’t racist, right?

        • legal eagle

          The summation is at the end of the article and states the following:

          “We combined the responses from the eight questions into one index of negative racial attitudes. We accomplished this by averaging the number of white Americans who provided the arguably racist response to each survey item, extrapolating the value for years in which the General Social Survey didn’t ask a particular question based on the long-term trend in responses to it.

          As of 2012, this index stood at 27 percent for white Republicans and 19 percent for white Democrats. So there’s a partisan gap, although not as large of one as some political commentators might assert. There are white racists in both parties. By most questions, they represent a minority of white voters in both parties. They probably represent a slightly larger minority of white Republicans than white Democrats.”

          • Josh

            What I appreciate most about these types of studies is that the people conducting them start by having all the answers. They know, without a doubt, it seems, what’s racism vs. ignorance, nervousness, political correctness, different fiscal politics, or even a belief that self-reliance is better than welfare.

            Whites who oppose living in a half-black neighborhood or who oppose a relative marrying a black person — okay, one can see how that can be weighted as racism.

            But not feeling “close” to blacks, or believing that the welfare state for blacks is too large, or believing that many black folks are relying on government and aren’t doing enough for themselves — weighting these answers the same to come up with a number for a racism index is ridiculous.

            What is the right answer? What’s the answer for racial harmony?

            Just flip the leanings around on the people conducting the study and then answer. If you’re a white person who holds the opinion that even more money must be given to blacks, that blacks cannot do for themselves, or that you, as a white person, feel similar and very close to blacks, I can spin that to say your attitudes about blacks are such that you don’t think they can succeed on their own and that you don’t view their situation as any more dire than yours. I.e. — still racist!

            Honestly. Why not just stick with the marriage-like questions? Once they start including nonsense that’s inherently relative and quibble-ready, it becomes clear that somebody’s trying to pad stats. It would be like MLB instituting a SWP stat (Swings With Power) to gauge a person’s intent on hitting a home run rather than the ball leaving the yard.

          • legal eagle

            It’s a poll about racial attitudes and how they are affected by political preference….Who said anyone was a racist? Why are you so defensive about the subject?

          • Josh

            “Who said anyone was a racist?”

            You do. About five times a day, every other day, since I’ve been posting here. Most likely long before I showed up, and probably long after I leave.

            “It’s a poll about racial attitudes and how they are affected by political preference”

            It’s a piece that seeks to paint people as having racist attitudes using some pretty shoddy “science” to gauge attitudes based on politics. Why are you so intent on painting people as racists? Or, as they authors put it, “arguably racist.”

            “Why are you so defensive about the subject?”

            Why do people wear sunblock? Why do boxers put their gloves up? Why does Dwight Howard guard the paint? Damn defensive people. I suppose one should just let the sun burn them, a boxer should just let a punch be thrown, and Howard should just let the other guy dunk. Damn defensive people for no reason whatsoever. Makes me sick.

          • legal eagle

            It’s polling…not science….go bury your head back in the sand…and Dwight Howard “guards the paint” about as well as he shoots foul shots….in other words with great mediocrity…

          • Josh

            I guess your NBA views are about as delayed as your political views to scale.

            And I didn’t say science. I said “science.” Besides, it’s still “science” — bunk and relative social science.

            Dude….

            Lawyer, I’m Pharaoh. Pleased to make your acquaintance.

        • Tim Ned

          I think he finally read the silly link. The is an old survey that has been running for years. There are no sample groups or cross over across ethnic lines to provide context. Using this survey, more certainly in the context the internet legal eagle used it, is like stating that since 93% of black Americans are racist because they voted for Obama.

      • Lloydl333

        You are the racist here.

        Before you reply to this you better read my background. You wouldn’t know a Republican if you bumped into one.

        You are good at shooting your mouth off.

        How about you state WHAT you believe instead of attacking everyone for their opinion. Your personal attacks are very Obama like.

      • halojumper

        Tell me legal eagle about democrats and racism. I love it when libs toot their usual blather about Republicans being racist and being wealthy. You ever see a “poor” lib democrat represenative? Remember your vice president say that barry o was a clean well spoken black man? Yes Sterling is a dirt bag, but everyone’s hair is on fire. I’m wondering where Jesse and Al are?

        • legal eagle

          You’re just hateful and fearful of others success…especially those black folks..

          • halojumper

            I’m hateful and fearful? That’s really funny your answer makes no sense. I’m not jealous of others success. I fear nothing. Typical lib insulting me with a racist comment that was edited out. Have a bad day, bro :(

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>I’m hateful and fearful?

            Don’t take it personal. He just pasted that from a script.

          • halojumper

            I should know when I’m getting fished in :)

  • Seattle Sam

    Don Sterling is man of incredibly bad character and has on numerous occasion exhibited his racism and bad morals. This is not news to the NBA. Yet they were just fine with him until one of his comments (a mild one relative to previous behavior) was publicized. Suddenly Captain Renault of the NBA is SHOCKED to discover that this man is a RACIST!

  • Roadmaster

    The Fourth Reich is here; a melding of Nazi thought police & Marxist socialism. Millions of us are no doubt already on the list for the “Final Solution.” The Gulags & concentration camps are ready, paid for with our own money.

    This needs to be turned around on “them.” THEY need to be shunned, ostracized and punished severely for THEIR private thoughts and words – which are treasonous, divisive, destructive and poisonous to the Republic. If you are a conservative or Tea Party supporter, THEY literally want you dead so that all of your “stuff” can be given to “deserving” people, mainly themselves.

    What is so disturbing is that a formally cohesive country such as we used to be can be so easily fractured by childish & petty distractions. Envy, jealousy, pitting one group against another and bread & circuses are time tested tactics of tyrants throughout history. They’re back….

    • 4Commencefiring4

      I believe you may have actually nailed the Obama Doctrine: Envy, jealousy, one group against another, etc., doesn’t happen when everyone is equally poor and desperate, where none have “too much” and none have “too little.” But it requires the engendering of all those emotions to get us to that point, and you can’t invoke jealousies unless someone is making it and someone isn’t. And once we’re all made “equal”, the Perfect Society results.

      But then, someone gets the bright idea that being poor sucks, and he tries to improve his lot. Then someone else sees this and tries it, too. And before long, you have competition, which leads to inequalities, which leads another Obama coming along and stirring up jealousies and envying between parties, and round and round we go.

      • Roadmaster

        The other day I asked a black commenter if he was familiar with the crab bucket analogy. No response…

  • Irene Elizabeth Grooms

    I don’t know but you should be very careful of wht you say today and who is around you.

  • 4deuce

    “He who is without sin, cast the first stone.” Stirling is a longtime racist – a fact well known to most who had cause to actually know about him on a personal basis. Certainly his racist track record was known, and well documented, long before the NCAA announced his pending receipt of a lifetime achievement award. But before too many ulrasensitive members of the “I Am Offended” movement bore us with their reproach of Stirling. I only wish they would examine their own conduct and language in their dealings with others and recognize what others would be justified in saying about them if all of their spoken and written remarks about others was available for public viewing. Those who bray the loudest about tolerance too often display none of it themselves. My fear is that once these tolerance hypocrites gain any sort of true power, they will sit around with their likeminded friends and do all that is possible to make divergent opinions punishable “thought crimes”. Sure, I know this expressed fear sounds like something out of a Orwell novel. But look around at the Orwellish things happening right now that 20 years ago would have seem utterly impossible to exist in the USA.

    • AnMar22

      We never had people whine about “I’m offended” or squirm about Politcal Correctness….which is ridiculous! We grew up “offended” and we realized who THEY were…and then we weren’t “offended” anymore!

      • legal eagle

        When did you not have people say “I’m offended”?

        • AnMar22

          Immigrants and their children in the early 1920s to 1950s. Maybe even later.

  • George Burns

    Let me see if I understand this Donald Sterling matter.

    He engaged in a private discussion with an illicit girlfriend. During that discussion, Sterling made remarks which did not affirm the “sterling” nature of his character. My goodness! Here is an old man who speaks words which many find to be offensive. And when the girlfriend decides to expose Sterling’s flawed character, the media, NBA authorities and various other “talking heads” launch into a feeding frenzy of immense proportions.

    The NBA, based upon authority which I don’t really understand, then “bans” Sterling “for life” and even suggests that Sterling can lose control of his business, a business which grew under his ownership from a $12,500,000.00 enterprise to its present worth of $575,000,000.00. Kobe Bryant, a black NBA superstar, is penalized $100,000.00 in 2011 for publicly slurring gays, but Sterling’s $575,000,000.00 holdings are put at risk because he doesn’t want his black/Mexican harlot girlfriend to engage in certain forms of public conduct with black players/friends?

    In the midst of this feeding frenzy, no one has even suggested that the potential criminal and civil violations of Sterling’s right to privacy should preclude any punitive action on the part of the NBA. Sterling’s remarks were made in private and not intended in any way for public consumption. But because those thoughts and comments unlawfully became public, Sterling is now the target of the self-righteous.

    In the first place, those who are tearing at Sterling should sweep their own porches clean instead of feeding on Sterling’s moral shortfalls.

    Second, Sterling’s remarks cause no actual or true physical injury to anyone. Sterling’s remarks do not show that he was plotting any kind of injury upon anyone. What all you anti-bigotry people need to recognize is that your actions against Sterling are nothing more than a massive assault by the “thought police”.

    OK. Sterling is a rich bigot. Big deal. If you want to exercise your right to be self-righteous, don’t go to Clipper games. If you are an NBA athlete who is offended by Sterling’s private thoughts, go ahead and give up your multimillion dollar income and leave the NBA. And while the NBA is “banning” Sterling from NBA games, it seems only fair to ban every black player or black fan who dislikes “white folks” from those same games. After all, fair is fair. Anyone want to probe into the private thoughts of black players or black fans?

    Seems like someone once said: “Let him who is without sin . . . . ” – seems like all of a sudden there are a whole bunch of “sinless” people among us – not the least of which is Adam Silver.

    • AnMar22

      ditto

    • Josh

      But none of that matters in the NBA. Silver has to react based on what the mob wants. Players were threatening legitimate boycotts of playoff games. The stink in media was harmful to the brand. It was just one of those situations that took on a life of its own, and suddenly Sterling became the worst person in the world via public perception.

      Silver is brand new in his job. The NBA is majority black. It’s one of the big three American sports and no headline from hockey, soccer, track or gym would bury it. It would take A-Rod injecting roids into his cheek on film or Peyton Manning retiring.

      “Fair” doesn’t need to be in the equation inside of the NBA. It operates by its own standards.

      This is obvious speculation, but anti-white rhetoric wouldn’t even make the first half hour of most sports shows. There simply wouldn’t be enough public outrage about it. Most white folks are easily shamed into silence and won’t raise a stink, carrying the opinion that, “Well, we did oppress them, so it’s deserved.” And if there were some outrage bubbling up, it would quickly be put in check by minority lobbies whose existence depends, in a lot of cases, on “racism” in America only working if there’s a white offender.

      It is actually the heartfelt opinion of a rather bulky minority that it can only be racism if it comes from a white person. Everything else is given another name and considered as just payback. Social justice advocates are constantly reminding the nation of that supposed fact. See Tommy Sotomayor, Suey Park, Chris Matthews (and probably the entire MSNBC gang), etc…

      This is society. Thankfully it hasn’t fully permeated the court system, and there are still some universities left unsullied. But in a public venue like the NBA, these are the times, and mob rule is the remedy. In fact, the prevailing thoughts on Sterling for the past two days have been that the NBA isn’t doing enough. They need to act even faster and more harshly.

      All I could think of to suggest is that folks disapproving with it all stop watching the NBA. I won’t, personally; I love basketball. And while I am concerned that this slope is beyond slippery already, I also realize that Sterling has to be an example in today’s NBA.

      • legal eagle

        You do know that Sterling is a franchisee subject to the rules set by the franchisor, The NBA?
        This is a contractual matter not, as you obviously want it to be, a civil rights matter…
        The fans don’t pay to watch the owners of NBA teams….There is no “right” of ownership…Sterling does have the right to get “fair value” for his franchise.

        • Josh

          Huh? I’m not sure that you meant to reply to me. What you’re saying doesn’t really add up when taking into account what I wrote.

          • legal eagle

            You seem to be playing the victim card..Poor rich white guys not getting a fair shake? What are you whining about? That everything is not fair?

          • Josh

            Huh?

            I’ve seen quite a few people here accuse you of not actually reading the stuff to which you tack on a reply. I suppose I can see why now.

            Nowhere throughout any of my comments on this matter (probably around a dozen so far) have I held Sterling up to be a victim. With the particular comment you’re referring to, all I’m illustrating is how Silver acted based on what the public wanted and what his players demanded. And it’s direct reply to George Burns’ comment and obviously within that context.

            I’m saying, to George, that “fair” has nothing to do with it. This is the NBA. How is that painting Sterling a victim?

            What don’t you understand about the 1/2 paragraph of my total comment that you semi-glossed over? I will attempt to explain anything you’re having difficulties with.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>What are you whining about? That everything is not fair?

            Yeah… It’s actually President Obama who’s been doing that. For over 5 years now.

          • legal eagle

            The difference is Obama is a person of great accomplishment….and you are a person of no accomplishment…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Says the guy so who hides behind a screen name because he’s obviously so proud of his own accomplishments. lol.

          • legal eagle

            I am quite proud of my accomplishments…..unlike a wannabe right wing talking head like yourself…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>I am quite proud of my accomplishments

            Then why hide behind anonymity? If you’re a man of stature, why not share your greatness with the rest of us?

          • legal eagle

            For what purpose? So the right wing crazies can harass me at my business or at my home?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            No. So you can lend credibility to the comments you leave here. Any run-of-the-mill Internet troll can insult people and make ludicrous claims. If you truly believe in what you’re saying, you should take ownership of your words. Be a man.

          • legal eagle

            BTW….Jon Stewart and I agree…LOL

            Stewart Rips O’Reilly’s Beyoncé Obsession: Triggering ‘Disapproval Boners’

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Squirrel!

            Own up to your words, legal. An important, accomplished guy like you shouldn’t be afraid to.

          • Tim Ned
          • saspecht

            Obama and accomplishments…lol. The correct statement would be Obama and the deceptive illusion of accomplishments

  • Sheila Warner

    I remember the same arguments being made when Marge Schott made her remarks about Hitler. Those comments cost her controlling ownership of the Cincinnati Reds. I think the NBA was correct to ban Sterling, and to release all of his players to free agency. I don’t know how I feel about him being forced to sell the team. I believe his players ought to be permitted to refuse to play for him, thus depriving him of a team to own if that’s what they choose to do. People can vote with their pocketbooks whether or not to support any business. I’m just not comfortable with the business being outright stripped from him because the man is a bigot. Do we punish people for bad thoughts or bad actions? I think I agree with Abdul-Jabbar on this one.

    • legal eagle

      Sterling is a member of a private club…If 2/3 of the members want him out it’s going to be difficult to invalidate the NBA by-laws..Yes, we do, in the court of public opinion, occasionally punish people for bad acts…

      • Deborah G

        The court of Public Opinion shouldn’t be the deciding factor oon whether a man has a business or not. we should show our dislike the Free market way. Don’t buy tickets , merchandise or support him. And that includes his poor whining victim mentality wimpy “Paid millions slaves. The government, NBA no one should be in someone else’s private life. Doesn’t anyone ever get tired of the intrusions into their own lives every day?

    • Deborah G

      I think this was a private conversation and for some reason everyone thinks it is their business.I think the man is a pig but that is his problem. I agree if the players feel the same get out of the multi million dollar contracts put their money where their outraged mouths are and be principled. If not Just shut up already.

  • D Parri

    Bernie, I told you that you are racist, or have been racist. Where’s my proof? Have you heard the recording that was made of you while at the party you attended in 1981 with several others from a ‘certain’ group of well-known terrorist journalists?

    Really. Now, why would you deny it at this point? You might not have thought anything about it at the time but, hey, things have changed Bernie. And if you don’t think that the past can come back to haunt you, well, you need to step into the 20th century, er….., twenty-first century.

    So, please disclaim anything you’ve ever said prior to today and let’s start with a clean slate for the future. And don’t do it again–someone might be listening recording.

    • Sheila Warner

      It’s very troubling to me that an illegal recording of a private conversation could lead to Sterling being stripped of his property. His views are out there, and the NBA can ban him if it likes, but it’s a serious thing when there is action made to deny someone his property. Let the court of public opinion & the power of the pocketbook drive what happens. I freely admit that I do not know if there are any morality clauses in the NBA regarding the owners. But it’s scary to think that a woman scorned can ignore the laws about privately taping someone, & cause that person to be stripped of private property. She may rue the day when she made that choice to go public.

      • loupgarous

        It’s good to see someone else concerned about this. Political groups, one aligned with the protean Clinton 2016 Presidential campaign, have vowed to subject Republicans at various meetings to unusual levels of electronic scrutiny. I’d be just as upset if the GOP or the Koch Brothers had plans in this direction – because it drags politics in this country, already personally destructive, to a lower level which resembles low-level warfare than anything else. Once that occurs, the next step could be an actual civil war (this time, no misnomer, an actual armed struggle for control of the body politic). We don’t need the Optimates and the Populares shooting it out over who gets Congress and the White House.

        • Sheila Warner

          Agreed.

      • Truthsayer

        Its even more troubling that you feel that the WAY in which Sterling’s virulent, sociopathic attitudes somehow should excuse him. The problem with racism is not “proving” people are racist in a court of law, but to eliminate it and expose it using whatever means necessary. That is how the construct was created in the first place. The NBA is not a legal court. Nothing about how this all transpired is “illegal” as it relates to Sterling’s racism or his right to any sort of privacy. The woman is a heroine. If it werent for her, Sterling and his racist soul would still be plopped down at NBA games where he sat and watched his slaves perform (but not take pictures with his girlfriend). Pathetic, really.

        • 4deuce

          I might agree with you if there was a legitmate definition of the word “racism” today. However, so many disgusting individuals now hurl that slur word at others who simply disagree on matters having nothing whatsoever to to with matters of race. Those lowlife SOBs have cheapened to words meaning they did it for their own personal agendas.

        • Deborah G

          His girlfriend is NOT a hero she is a snake that is using dirty tricks to pay him back probab;y becaiuse he didn’t give her enough money. Gte real. A hero is someone in the Armed forces not some vicious, scorned woman.

        • Sheila Warner

          What’s pathetic is that Sterling’s actions were ignored by the NBA, after he was forced to settle with the Feds after housing discrimination. That’s when he should have been banned. And, what his mistress did IS illegal. California is a two party consent state. It’s not illegal to be a racist. It’s reprehensible and unfortunate, but not illegal, and no court of law will ever be able to rid the nation of racism. It’s easy to support taking property away from someone as despicable as Sterling. What happens when it is your comments that are illegally taped and released to a public forum, on a totally different issue, which then results in you losing your property rights?

          No matter how disgusting a person’s attitudes may be, in this country, due process and compliance with the laws are still necessary components in society under the Constitution. You might not like it that a racist has Constitutional rights, but that is reality. That you fail to understand this is concerning. I wonder if you studied civics.

      • Deborah G

        I agree with you 100% Anyone that does not see how scarey this entire thing is needs to get their heads examined. Gee I said the N word in 1963 someone heard me I was 13 so I should be banned from everything and never allowed to run my business. THAT is how stupid it has become and frightening.

    • Deborah G

      Great Post

  • Haaseline

    Where else but in America can a guy taped by a ______, be banned from the NBA and his property for saying racist things, and an administration can doctor facts of 4 dead americans for political purposes and nothing happens… In fact the ______ taped phone call even gets more press than 4 dead americans and a fixed national platform be fabricated to mislead the american people during an election. Bernie I love you to death , but there is no news anymore. Good or Bad.

    • legal eagle

      Knew one cult member would get back to Benghazi …..LOL

      • 4Commencefiring4

        Yeah, who cares about “Ambassador” Stevens’ violent death? And the deaths of three other brave Americans? They were hired to work in a dangerous place, and no one put a gun to their heads to take the job. Hey, what difference at this point does it make? Only some “cult” people would pay that any attention, even if Obama was in on it. Racists all.

        • Haaseline

          Nice so maybe the same thought goes for racism… why stay here if thats what this place is??? I’m sure if one of the 4 was a relative you might not say what difference does it make. Thanks for the Hillary impersonation I’m sure we will be hearing that again in 2016!!

          • Jeff Webb

            It appears 4Commencefiring4 was mocking Legal Eagle, not saying something he actually believed, if that’s what your response is based on.

          • Haaseline

            Got it Jeff..thx

      • Haaseline

        Yep, nothing like a little racism to divert , Dead people, IRS, & Economy!!! Must admit your cult has “Game”, heard one you’ve heard em all!! Amazing script writer’s !!!

        • legal eagle

          Keep shouting BENGHAZI and WHITEWATER until Hillary is elected POTUS…..LOL

          • Haaseline

            Guess lol means Lois Lerner…you are a man of great vision… I’m praying for ya!!!

          • legal eagle

            Lois Lerner should be executed and the execution should be covered live on Fox News……LOL

          • Haaseline

            Very good…. because the other 6 networks would be covering the UFO”s that shot down the Malaysian Airliner…. or Beyonce’s new video elevating woman ( ‘s hips ) to a new level of entitlement!!!

          • Jeff Webb

            We’ll do that all the way until Hillary dies and after, president or not, just like Dems do with Nixon. But by all means keep on whining that we won’t shut up–it’s amusing.

          • Tim Ned

            Rest assured, Benghazi will be a big campaign issue. She’s already making comments to prepare for the firestorm.

            “Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said Monday that the “biggest regret” from her time as the nation’s top diplomat was the 2012 attack on Americans in Benghazi.”

          • legal eagle

            Won’t change a single vote…..This is a FOX News created scandal and I don’t think their viewers are Hillary voters…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Fox News covered up how 4 men were killed in Benghazi?

          • legal eagle

            We know how they were killed….The faux scandal is how much spin was put out to the media as the reason for the attack…Pretty weak “”scandal” material….

          • tim ned

            Won’t know until it’s investigated. Based upon the latest testimony Hillary’s “biggest regret” I have no doubt will be her “biggest understatement” of the year. Trying to think of her great accomplishments as secretary of state? Snooze…… oops, sorry dozed off thinking about it.

          • legal eagle

            Benghazi been investigated, ad infinitum by Issa, for two years…what revelation do you think will be found? Much like Whitewater…an investigation looking for a scandal…..good luck..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Unfortunately, the administration withheld crucial information from Issa during that time, that was just recently released because of a lawsuit filed by Judicial Watch.

            Even someone like you, who plays the role of a lawyer on the Internet, should know that an investigation can’t be successful if the pertinent evidence is withheld.

            And try responding with something other than a DNC talking point.

          • legal eagle

            Is this your new scandal? Not producing documents in a timely manner? That’s shocking…..LOL

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            New? They’ve been stonewalling the release if information from the very beginning. Legal, put down the DNC script for a second and pay attention…

            The scandal all along was the administration lying to the American public about the Benghazi attack stemming from a spontaneous mob (which didn’t exist) that were angry over a YouTube video.

            The repeatedly blamed the video and the man who made the video, when they KNEW the video had absolutely nothing to do with why 4 American patriots were killed. It was a successful, coordinated terrorist attack, that was pulled off less than 2 months before the presidential election, where Obama was campaigning on his anti-terror record.

            The administration lied about how 4 men were killed, and fabricated a scapegoat to help them win re-election. That’s a scandal. A big one.

            Since 2012, they have kept witnesses and crucial information from getting to congress. This included the redaction of proof tying the White House to the lies Susan Rice, the president, and several others repeatedly told – a charge the White House has been denying from the very beginning.

            The only reason you don’t believe this is a scandal is because a Republican isn’t in the White House. Thus, you’re perfectly happy to play the role of the useful idiot and tout the same line as that moron I’m sure you’d be proud to have as a grandson, Tommy “Dude” Vietor.

            I’m sure the families of the four dead men appreciate your protection of the people who repeatedly lied to their faces… Dude.

          • legal eagle

            What you are describing is the latest attempt to create a scandal…
            1) Originally, the “scandal” involved Obama telling the military to stand down….
            2) Then it became that Hillary “refused” to provide requested security…
            3) Then the scandal involved the failure to send in Navy Seals…
            When there were no facts to support these “scandals” the Republicans have now come up with a new version of a “scandal”.
            4) Republicans now claim that the scandal is that the Administration “spun” the reasons and motives for the attack.
            Sounds eerily similar to the claims that Bush spun the WMD story to justify the invasion of Iraq…You have denied that Bush spun anything…
            So what is the scandal and what difference does it make if the Administration spun the story for political purposes? Happens all the time…What does spinning the story have to do with anyone being killed?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>What you are describing is the latest attempt to create a scandal…

            No. What I’m describing is what I’ve been saying all along. The scandal has always been about the YouTube video narrative. I’ve never written about the other charges you listed, and have certainly never referred to them as being “scandals.”

            Was the administration’s failure to even try and save our men that were in trouble an example of poor leadership, poor judgement, and incompetence? Yes. A scandal? I don’t think so.

            >>Republicans now claim that the scandal is that the Administration “spun” the reasons and motives for the attack.

            NOW claim? They’ve been claiming that from the very beginning. Initially, it was speculation. But as the facts of the timeline came out, it became apparent.

            >>Sounds eerily similar to the claims that Bush spun the WMD story to justify the invasion of Iraq…

            No it doesn’t. Bush didn’t spin the WMD story. He relayed exactly what our intelligence agencies were telling us, and what our international allies’ intelligence agencies were telling us. Bill Clinton was told the same thing while he was in office, which is why both Bill and Hillary (the woman you want to be our next president) believed the stockpiles were still there, and supported Bush in the invasion of Iraq. It’s why top Democrats in the Obama administration, including our current vice president and secretary of state supported the invasion of Iraq.

            The intelligence agencies WERE NOT telling the Obama administration that a YouTube video led to the attack in Benghazi. That was a concocted narrative created for purely political purposes by the administration. We both know that.

            But let’s say, purely for the sake of argument, that your liberal fantasy were true, and Bush “spun” the WMD story. Being that you’ve been incredibly critical of what you believe (despite the facts) Bush did, why aren’t you critical at all of what the Obama administration ACTUALLY did? Don’t both answering. We already know.

            >>So what is the scandal

            I’ve described it numerous times now, legal. Try to keep up.

            >>what difference does it make if the Administration spun the story for political purposes?

            Ah, the Hillary Clinton response. Nice.

            Well let’s see… If you think it’s acceptable for a politician to use the deaths of four American patriots as a prop to blatantly and repeatedly lie to the country and their families, for the purpose of protecting that politician’s personal, political aspirations… I suppose it doesn’t make one bit of difference at all.

            Well played, Legal Eagle. Feel vindicated in your beliefs now, Dude?

          • legal eagle

            Perhaps you should refer to the death of Pat Tillman before you become overly indignant….I understand it’s simpler to claim that these situations are black and white….good luck to you and Fox News with you moral indignation…
            I understand your logic, The Bush Administration did not spin the WMD story or the Pat Tillman story but the Obama administration spun the Benghazi story…
            Do I have your position correct?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>Perhaps you should refer to the death of Pat Tillman

            What about Pat Tillman? He was killed by friendly fire, and it was a terrible tragedy. The Army shamefully tried to cover it up, saying he was killed by enemy fire. The Department of Defense investigated the incident, determined there was a cover-up, and set the public record straight. It didn’t take the media or lawsuits to pry the truth out of anyone, and the cover-up never went beyond the Army.

            >>I understand your logic, The Bush Administration did not spin the WMD
            story or the Pat Tillman story

            They didn’t spin the WMD story. Neither did the Clintons, Joe Biden, John Kerry, Tony Blair, or any of the leaders who looked at the intelligence and based their support for the Iraq war on it.

            The administration had nothing to do with the Pat Tillman cover-up. You already know this. It was done by military commanders. They were the ones who spun it.

            >> but the Obama administration spun the Benghazi story…

            Yes, and you know they did. They’ve already been proven to be directly involved. Any other bogus comparisons you want to throw out there? Maybe something to do with the Bush daughters, or perhaps Barney the dog?

            >>Do I have your position correct?

            You never have in the past. Why should I have expected you to this time?

          • Tim Ned

            Number 4 was from the beginning. Why did an idiot like Susan Rice go out and spin the story about some dumb video. I know she way lying, you know show was lying, and my dog knows she was lying.

          • legal eagle

            So she was “lying”? You mean to tell me that this is the first time, in your lifetime, that a government official has lied….Why is the “lie” so important other than for political purposes?

          • Tim Ned

            For the family and country. When Pat Tillman, an American hero, was killed in Afghanistan, the truth was not initially reported. It took a lengthy “Investigation” and the truth came out.

            I am amazed why your party is so afraid of an Investigation? Perhaps it is because you accept the lies as a part of your politics. Had Rice told the truth, this controversy would have been stopped in it’s tracks.

          • legal eagle

            When Hillary becomes POTUS the Republicans can continue to investigate whatever they want including Whitewater and Benghazi…..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>We know how they were killed…

            NOW we do. The problem, as you very well know, is that the administration knew the truth soon after the attack, but fed the public and the murdered mens’ families a false story for political purposes. THAT is a scandal.

          • legal eagle

            It’s a scandal without any

          • Jeff Webb

            >>It’s a “scandal” to Fox News and its cult followers<<

            Speaking of which, are you going to post all those examples of FNC's "every day" racism, or was that simply a lie?

          • legal eagle

            How many examples would you like? Because you don’t believe there is any white racism, only “reverse racism” all you’ll do is claim that Fox’s habit of playing the “race card” has no reality….
            George Wallace used to claim that he wasn’t a racist, he was just stating facts…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Just replied to all of these questions (as if you didn’t already know the answers) in my other reply to you.

    • Deborah G

      I agree 100%

  • LAPhil

    I love the way Kareem expressed himself on this.

    • 4deuce

      I heartily agree.

  • Bob Sten

    RACISM DOES NOT EXIST.

    Tribalism is a more appropriate word….individuals tend to promote, defend, and support those that are most like them. This happens everywhere around the world and is the norm, not the exception.

    You can cry “racism” all you want, but it is a playground term used by those that want to silence dissent. Tribalism is a more accurate and descriptive term.

    For example, the brits don’t like the irish. That isn’t racism, it’s tribalism. Both the brits and the irish are the same race. The indians don’t like the pakistanis, that is tribalism, not racism. The chinese don’t like the japanese, that is tribalism, not racism. Many Mexicans in southern ca don’t like blacks or whites. That’s tribalism, not racism.

    The term racism is hollow, overused, abused, and ridiculous. Tribalism much more accurately describes racial, religious, and ethnic bias.

    I really hope all those in the lynch mob demanding this guy’s blood have the same thing happen to them. I hope they have their lives ruined for saying something “offensive”, to someone else. Only then will they realize how fascistic they are and how important freedom of thought and freedom of speech are to a democratic and free society. May they all rue the day.

    • LAPhil

      Good post. I really like your take on this. As far I’m concerned there are way too many people jumping on this anti-racism bandwagon. As Bernie pointed out, a lot of them need to look in the mirror. What was that Christ said about casting the first stone?

      • D Parri

        Well, the birds and animals are notoriously racist and it probably time that someone brought that out.

        Why don’t eagles and hummingbirds nest together? They are racist!

        Why don’t lions and lambs lay down together? They are racist?

        For some reason, going against the ‘natural state’, or the laws of nature doesn’t seem wise. When the hummingbirds bring lawsuit against the eagles, then I know we’ve reached our end.

        • Truthsayer

          There are no separate groups within the human race. Your analogy is a complete fail.

          • Bob Sten

            liesayer,

            What a parrot you are. Of course there are differences. Try walking around the projects in compton at night as a white guy.

            You’re mind has been so distorted. Reality completely contradicts your cliches.

        • Ron F

          Can’t black horses mate with white horses? And how are donkeys created?

      • legal eagle

        Don’t want to object too much about billionaire racists…They are victims also…..LOL

        • Bob Sten

          legal,

          So you are saying the wealthy cannot be victimized? Really? A rich couple in my neck of the woods was murdered by a kid that wanted their yacht.

          So they aren’t victims in your book?

          So a black person that gets insulted is a victim in your book, but a rich person that gets murdered cannot be a victim in your book?

          Ever take a course in logic idiot?

          • legal eagle

            I’m saying Donald Sterling is not a victim…..

          • Bob Sten

            Well, then that’s what you should have said. Instead, you said “billionaire”, implying that no billionaires can be victims.

          • legal eagle

            You have taken my statement out of context….I was referring to Donald Sterling as a victim of the media…

          • Bob Sten

            I didn’t take it out of context. Just admit that you were lumping ALL billionaires together. Don’t blame your own painting with a broad brush on me pal.

            You say “they”. They means plural. Sterling is one guy.

            How does “they” equate to one guy to you???

          • legal eagle

            You’re a moron….

          • Bob Sten

            legal eagle,

            You don’t know the difference between the singular (him), and plural (they), and I’m the moron?

            Ooooooh, ok you effeminate liberal, whatever floats your naive little boat.

    • D Parri

      Generally speaking, blacks prefer blacks and whites prefer whites. Latinos prefer Latinos and Asians prefer Asians. That is, or isn’t, a statement upon racism, depending entirely upon your viewpoint.

      Racial prejudice, to the point of denigrating or wishing harm upon someone strictly because of their race–and for no other reason–is ignorant, at best. However, denying the existence of racism without one modicum of acceptance as to its being part of our natural state, is just plain stupid.

      • 4Commencefiring4

        I wonder how a perfectly race-blind society would look? My son, in his mid-20s, tells me that his generation is far less race conscience than mine has been. But even so, he admits that his friends and those he went to public school with self-segregated. The blacks, at lunch, were virtually a section unto themselves in the back of the lunchroom. Same with Asians, Latinos, and whites. Some mixing, yes, but mostly everyone stuck with those who either spoke their language or could otherwise identify with their life. Some things were just commonly accepted traits among each group. Even blacks who were model citizens and great students, he claimed, could tell you all day long who to see if you wanted to join a gang or buy drugs. Meanwhile, at the Asian table, they were discussing a paper they were writing for English or which college they were going to TURN DOWN that had accepted them.

        • legal eagle

          Thanks for your lunchroom stories…Maybe Fox will make a movie out of them……LOL

          • Integrity

            How about adding something of value? QED

          • Lloydl333

            Poor Legal Eagle is an example of being educated beyond his ability to THINK.

            I think he lives in in parents basement in his underware playing on the computer.

      • Bob Sten

        Bias is not the same as hate. In group preference is not the same as hate.

        When whites are biased, or show tribal preference, the majority on the left incorrectly label that as hate.

        It’s not!

        • D Parri

          Yes, I agree with you. In my 1st paragraph I said that it either is or is not a statement upon racism to exhibit preferences.

          Personally, I feel like the ones who throw the term “racist”–unchecked–are exploiting a segment of society that are not being mistreated or maligned.

          However, regardless of what term is used, racism, preference, bias, tribalism, or other, those societal characteristics exist and are as natural as the birds and the bees.

          • Bob Sten

            Parri,

            Finally, one who can see through the bs. Sorry many parrots out there it gets tiring. Good post Parri. Well thought out.

    • Deborah G

      Let the first person without some “BIAS” raise their hand……….crickets

  • Roman Lubers

    Here’s the real bad news and the truth why they need to lynch the man, 2009 NAACP lifetime achievement award winner, not man of the year or any singular type of award, LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD. An award they have awarded to every Clipper player past and present, every Laker player past and present, to many players of the Raiders when they were in So. Cal.

    Mr. Leon Jenkins of the So. Cal. chapter of the NAACP has now said, “It’s an insignificant amount of money and we’re going to return it”. Sad, the NAACP will hand out awards over such small insignificant funds. Yet if his amount donated is insignificant, then why have none of the players that Mr. Sterling hates so much been able to donate a significant amount and receive this award themselves? Surely Mr. Earvin “Magic” Johnson has once been a recipient of this award himself?

    Gotta get rid of all these racist, always holding down the black man while his brothers hold them up. Think any of the Clippers who turned their jersey’s inside out in protest will sell one of their Bentley’s and donate it to the NAACP since it was paid for by Mr. Sterling? Do you think any of these outraged individuals will do their part for the black community now that they’ll most likely be getting no more “insignificant” amounts of money from the man?

    Last question, will any of these outraged people receive the NAACP lifetime achievement award in steed of Mr. Sterling? Didn’t think so.

  • sleeplessinva

    First it was Brendan Eich, now Donald Sterling.

    • legal eagle

      Bigots as victims? What’s America coming to?….

    • Jeff Webb

      You honestly think that’s an apt comparison?!

  • Tim Ned

    “So what lesson should we take of the public flogging of Donald Sterling, as deserved as it was?”

    It’s better to be the flogger than the flogged. But more seriously; times have changed and I believe Abe Lincoln had a rule for this. “Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” We should now append the quote with “even in private”.

    • legal eagle

      Do you have any more clichés to share?

  • michael binder

    As usual, the race baiters from all directions have leapt on this as an indication of SOMETHING!! For example, the false outrage exhibited by some of those who want the attention of people they want to think well of them. If someone’s feelings were hurt by what this guy said, then what’s wrong with them? And……what feeling was hurt? They never tell you that! Our national sensitivity (false and manipulative to the extreme) is used to make ourselves look better than the jerk who had to utter the words. And……who cares if he sells the team? What is an 80-year-old gonna do with an extra 500 million? He has the right to say what he wants, as do we all, and also the right to the pain and misery which accompanies it, as do we all. Who will take away from this guy the results of his hitherto hidden attitudes? Or………were they? You can’t tell me that no one knew!! Advice: Grow up!!

  • Ryan Nichols

    Marie Burke. .. If she was a Republican, I guarantee we all would know this name as we know Donald Sterling. .. But we live in a nation that is told how to feel, and whom to direct those feelings. Disgrace! !

  • Blakely1

    This ruling sets the stage for the destuction of all of us. The NSA is recording
    all phone & e-mail records for what end.??
    To , at some time use them as weapons against us?
    To use an illegally taped PRIVATE DISCUSSION to deprive a man
    of rights & property is a dangerous slippery slope.
    This can not be allowed to be a precident setter.
    Can you imagine what Gays would do to those who oppose Gay marriage
    or what liberals would do to people who only believe in legal immigration?
    Even Christians could be attacked for not believing in Evolution.
    Liberals do it all, now,
    Sterling’s case can be the overt beginning of attacks on our Bill of Rights.
    BTW, he has been making outrageous comments for 33 years.
    Why now & why such a severe ruling?
    Clearly the NBA wants another owner & has overstepped its bounds.

  • david

    “I am confused, there is no outrage over those who father children in every city.” This nails the whole problem on the head. We’ve allowed the media to tell us to be outraged over words rather than when someone is shot, murdered, molested, burglarized, etc. Only when a white person commits word crimes against a black person has a crime been committed. Who created this outrage again? The person(s) with a keypad, microphone or in front of a television camera. Think about it for a minute, if there were not the internet, TV or radio do you really believe for one second these comments made by Sterling would travel further than the stop sign nearest your front door?
    Bernie, the “American people” DID NOT make him an outcast, the media with their gigantic, super powerful stage told us we are outraged, therefore we are outraged, right? I can tell you, I am NOT outraged nor are my family, friends or co-workers outraged, in fact none of us has even spoke of it.
    TV preachers, news casters, radio hosts, newspaper editors all have something we average folk don’t, “the stage”, which begets a “it must be true because they said so. temp-let.”
    I don’t know you but you who reads this know that in everyday discourse Sterling matters none as we have more important things to do like finishing our work day so we can pay our bills. Surprise media/NY Times ilk, this is the most important choice of topic, paying our bills/surviving and maybe discussing if we have enough money to take the kids to Chuckie Cheeze Friday night. Bernie, the only people out of touch are those writing/broadcasting that we are out of touch. Racism today, refers to what someone said to or about another, not what injustice had been done against them. As we are now witnessing with Sterling, he is guilty and punished swiftly for crimes against the vocabulary not humanity. Anyone with any common sense should be very afraid for what we have become and ultimately what lies ahead. I foresee the day I walk the street and someone sneezes to where I respond, “God bless you” and within moments an officer of the thought police arrives on scene to say, “you have the right to remain silent, any more WORDS you say will be used against you” Pathetic that I even have to comment on this.

  • Stephanie S

    What ever happened to one adult saying to another, “You shouldn’t talk that way, it hurts my feelings.” That’s how we handled things back in the day. I guess we are all a bunch of children now who have to be “protected” by the government and the law.

    • Tim Ned

      What ever happened to one adult saying to another, “You shouldn’t talk that way, it hurts my feelings.”

      They day this line changed to “Run, he’s got a gun”!

    • Sheila Warner

      In this case, the law and the government had nothing to do with what happened to Sterling. The NBA is a business. The First Amendment protects the citizens from government oppression of speech. Having said that, the fact that an illegally obtained tape of a private conversation can be used to take away property is troubling to me.

      • loupgarous

        I differ from your assessment, Sheila. The NBA owners’ group has sweeping powers to divest a member of huge earnings potential by denying him or her a franchise. Common law principles seem to imply that regardless of the voluntary association of Sterling and the other NBA owners, the owners have to show they are being consistent in applying the strictures under which Sterling was banned for life. Given the trash-talking culture of the NBA, that’s going to be difficult.

        I emphatically agree with you over the troubling provenance of that tape. It’s either a straight criminal interception and disclosure of a private phone call or a work product disclosure covered by V. Stiviano’s employee relationship with Sterling.

        • Sheila Warner

          Excellent point, and one that will likely be debated as this thing moves forward. I doubt Sterling will go quietly, that’s for sure. I do not know the by-laws of the NBA, however, so my thoughts on this whole thing are based on a lack of knowledge about how the NBA is set up. It seems that Silver had the authority to ban Sterling, but will he really have the authority to deny Sterling his property? Are those common law principles to which you referred codified in existing business laws?

          I didn’t like it when Marge Schott was forced to sell her majority ownership of the Reds, and I don’t like this, either. And, for the record, I don’t like what either one had to say. You don’t strip someone of property for words, though. Property rights are part of the American fabric. You don’t deprive someone of property or livelihood lightly. At least, that’s the way it used to be in the America in which I grew up.

          • loupgarous

            Sheila, I don’t know if blackletter law exists to protect Sterling’s holdings in the way I describe in a commercial code. I was really describing my understanding of how a court that ruled in equity would work. The actual law in such a case could be entirely different.

          • legal eagle

            This is a contractual issue not a commercial code issue….

          • Sheila Warner

            I’ve been commenting with one hand tied behind my back, as it were, because I had no idea what was in the contract. On the news a few days ago, an NBA lawyer said that the “morality” clause in the owners’ contracts only deals with financial fraud, and not personal behavior. Not sure if that clause includes all violations of the law, however, as when Sterling discriminated in his housing and was forced to pay a multi-million dollar fine to the Feds.

          • legal eagle

            Sterling settled his case with the Feds..so there was no admission of guilt and the NBA would have had the same problem disciplining Sterling……
            The bottom line is this…If Sterling won’t sell or work out some deal that allows for family ownership without his involvement, the NBA players association is threatening to strike….Either way, lets hope Sterling goes away..

          • Sheila Warner

            And, either way, the NBA has egg on its face. If saying something in private was so big a deal, why wouldn’t they have sought to get rid of him after he settled with the Feds? But, in the end, you’re right. Let’s hope he goes away.

          • legal eagle

            Who is “stripping” anyone of property? The NBA is a partnership of 30 owners….Partnerships can vote members out…..If Sterling believes he cannot be voted out he can go to a Court and argue his case…..His property is not being taken away…he is being told to sell to the highest bidder…..
            Would you want to be a partner with a toxic individual like Donald Sterling? He’s bad for the NBA business…

          • Sheila Warner

            If he is forced to sell his team, which will presumably continue to grow in its worth, then that is what I meant by “stripping”. Had the NBA gone this route when Sterling’s actions, and not his words, had been the basis for the decision, that would be a different matter altogether. As has been pointed out on this forum, other NBA players have conducted themselves badly also, with no repercussions. If no one will partner with Sterling after this, then that is the free market doing its job. I’m not defending his words at all, but I am curious as to why his actions never generated any discipline against him in the past. It’s hypocritical.

          • legal eagle

            Players are subject to discipline under a collective bargaining agreement with the NBA owners…Not the same situation as a franchise owner….

          • Sheila Warner

            And, as I said, I have no knowledge about any of the contracts or clauses within them. Have a good week end.

      • Deborah G

        It should be more than TROUBLING it should be even more outrageous than a few stupid words uttered by a moron

  • cantonst

    The old fart gave his mistress thousands if not millions in possessions (cars, homes, etc.)…makes her a prostitute. The wifey found out about it and sued the mistress for one of the properties. This pissed the mistress off and she recorded and sold the tape. Hell hath no fury… BTW: Racists are everywhere. We’re all racist to one degree or another. It’s human nature from the fall in the garden. We have to INTENTIONALLY rise above racism along with many other human faults.

    • Sheila Warner

      If Sterling loses ownership of the team, he will have suffered a financial loss directly attributed to the illegal taping of his private conversation. The mistress had better hire a good lawyer to the inevitable civil suit which will be filed against her.

      • loupgarous

        Oh, you said it, Sheila. Sterling’s attorney would have quite a few options under which to pursue not just V. Stiviano, but TMZ for broad-banding those calls over the Internet.

      • legal eagle

        What is Sterling’s “financial loss”?

        • Sheila Warner

          Sorry, Legal, I’ve been off of the forums for a couple of days. The financial loss would be the loss of his team. I realize he is a billionaire, but the team is worth money and he will lose it if the NBA has its way.

          If you read my other comments, you saw that I was against Marge Schott losing her majority control of the Reds, too, when she spewed her remarks about Hitler. We should be punished for actions, not words.

          It’s kind of ridiculous that Sterling is being hounded for his words now, when his actions (housing discrimination) in the past ought to have been punished.

          I bet every person has at one time or another said things that he regrets later on. It’s our actions that need to be judged, & the NBA already blew that one with Sterling big time.

          How’ve you been? Stirring up trouble wherever you comment? LOL

          • legal eagle

            Hope you’ve been well…Sterling has become an embarrassment to the NBA and, because it is an entertainment business, public opinion does count. If the NBA had not acted, they would have been condemned in the court of public opinion, not good for an entertainment business..
            What is unique about sports franchises is that they share revenue, particularly TV revenue and Sterling is bad for business….
            If Sterling wants to fight he has the Courts as his remedy…The curious part of this whole story is that Sterling refuses to apologize…If he did it would defuse the whole situation….

          • Sheila Warner

            Sad to say, everything you said in this comment is true.

      • Deborah G

        It would be a stupid suit because she obviously has nothing compared to the loss he will take .

  • loupgarous

    Does the False Victimization Monologue (“…for the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback”) qualify as racism? I believe so. I hope that the Congress defunds the Office of the First Lady (it being impossible to ban her from life from being FLOTUS) so that the reputation of the United States of America’s Federal government can be preserved.

  • David in Virginia

    You should add that any look at the lyrics of the most popular black rappers would find countless vile and hateful passages that refer to women as whores and bitches who should be raped or abused. Where is the outrage over that? Most decent people are not aware of how awful these “songs” are, because newspapers won’t print the lyrics. They won’t print the lyrics partly because the language is so awful it can’t be printed in family newspapers, but mainly because white newspaper editors believe the sins of whites past require them to now turn a blind eye to savage, cruel, selfish, and indescribably vulgar language used by black “recording artists.” I challenge, right now, every newspaper in America to print exactly what Sterling said, right on the front page, and beside it, put a column with the worst lyrics found in the “music” of the top ten best selling rappers. Everyone would see who has the most disgraceful, hateful, disgusting, and abusive language – and I can tell you, it isn’t Mr. Sterling. It isn’t old white guys who are pulling the image of African Americans into the gutter – and it is time for black leaders to publicly say so.

    • david

      a-men sister. you nailed it!

    • Sheila Warner

      Well said!

    • Deborah G

      So true. I have a freind who happens to be black he is a moral, good familiy man and his children are delights, raised well. He is sio ashamed of the way these black kids go out HUNTING for white people to kill. What about that college kid from Australia? That is something to be outraged about not some ovverpaid athelete who knew full well he was trading talent for money. He didn’t care about racism when he signed the contract he cared about the 20 mil. Give the mnan a fine and let’s move on.

  • Judy

    The market would have, and should have taken care of Sterling–and much faster. Now, this will probably drag on for years.

    And by the way, I’m not as old as Sterling, but I’m getting up there and I was never prejudiced against any race and neither were my parents. Let’s not brand seniors as “not quite with the times” racists.

  • loupgarous

    There’s a new crime in America – “Talking while white.”

  • Lloydl333

    Mark Cuban said it right. Slippery slope. The thought police are out there.

    Sterling is an A-Hole. But the first amendment is there to protect us all. Even A-holes.

    Eric Holder ans an A-hole with power. That is worse.

    • legal eagle

      Maybe you should read the First Amendment….

      • Lloydl333

        I have. So? I might also add the 4th and 5th
        My point is what you think or say in your own home is free speech. When you put those thoughts into action to stop anyone from exercising their right to work and live, Then I don’t care how hard the world comes down on you.
        Sterling is an A-hole. I am just saying he has a right to say and think what he wants.
        Do you want the government or employer coming into your home policing you?
        Just WHO is to decide what is PC?
        Slippery slope.

        • legal eagle

          If you believe “the government” can’t police you in your home then should police not be allowed to intervene in a domestic violence situation or in a child abuse allegation?
          Sterling has the right to do or say whatever he pleases unless he violates a law…However, under the NBA by-laws he does not have the “right ” to own a franchise….franchises can generally be granted or denied by the franchisor based upon written agreement.

          • Lloydl333

            I think the NBA did the right thing. Will it hold up in court, I do not know. You seem to be the lawyer. Sterling will keep them tied up in court till he dies. He has the money.

            As far as domestic violence, You need to stay on point. You are being silly now. WTF!

          • Patrick

            Notice the NBA isn’t as confident as you regarding stripping Sterling of his ownership? If this was such a heinous violation of NBA by laws, why no emergency session to get that easy 2/3 vote?

          • legal eagle

            Something called lawyers?…….LOL

        • legal eagle

          How about viewing child porn in your home? Do you believe all “free speech” activities in your home are not subject to “policing”?

          • Lloydl333

            I don’t care what you do in your own home.
            Your home is your castle. The FBI might have an interest to your child porn watching though.

          • legal eagle

            I’m just trying to make the point that “free speech” has it’s limits under the law…You do believe that this a country of laws?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>You do believe that this a country of laws?

            Oh, so you’re for enforcing our borders now? lol.

          • Lloydl333

            Who do you want determining what you say in your own home?
            What Sterling said was disgusting. But not illegal when voiced in his home.

            Now law I know of here.

            So far you have the right to be an A-hole and a rich one at that.

            Where was the NAACP when they were taking his donations?

            Double standard.

          • legal eagle

            Who said anything Sterling said was illegal?

          • Lloydl333

            You know, you need to file the point off your head. It seems to be the only point you have.

          • Lloydl333

            So don’t yell FIRE in a crowded room.

    • 4deuce

      I wonder what the reaction would be if the many, many voices expressing their (justified) personal outrage about Stirling would be saying if some single Federal Judge would ruled that the NBA’s action of stripping Stirling of his Clippers ownership was unconstitutional? We see an awful lot of such pronouncements lately – when the majority of some state goes to the polls on a referrendum issue and calls for a state law taking a constitutional stand on a given issue. I do not like how single judges can do so and them the residents of the state whose desires are put to a stop must wait years as the appeals process slowly creeps higher and higher up the judical food chain. So, what would the reaction be is one man in a black robe – a political appointee put a halt to all of this corrective action all by himself?

  • loupgarous

    The more apposite question, given the comparative power of owner of the Los Angeles Clippers and the Attorney-General of the United States of America, is why Eric Holder still has HIS job for saying this about why he didn’t prosecute the Black Panthers who set an armed guard in front of a polling place in Philadelphia;

    ““Think about that,” Holder said. “When you compare what people endured in the South in the 60s to try to get the right to vote for African Americans, and to compare what people were subjected to there to what happened in Philadelphia–which was inappropriate, certainly that . . . to describe it in those terms I think does a great disservice to people who put their lives on the line, who risked all, for my people”

    In other words, Attorney-General Holder can be nakedly racist in public, and no condemnation ensues. He can even violate the law of the land in refusing to hold all people equally accountable for the same violations of the law. Nada.

    But let the owner of the Clippers tell his mistress that he didn’t want her associating with black men… as reprehensible as that is, it’s not a crime, and it certainly had nothing to do with the conduct of his job.

  • David in Virginia

    Best piece of commentary on this I’ve heard yet.

  • ivannavi

    Qui primus sit proiecto lapide, non peccavit.

    • sjangers

      That would leave many of us with a lot of free time on our hands.

      • legal eagle

        Something for you to consider regarding racial attitudes….

        http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-white-republicans-more-racist-than-white-democrats/

        • sjangers

          Excellent link, Dr. Eagle! Thanks!

          We still aren’t where we want to be as a society, but those numbers look fairly encouraging to me. I suspect- or I’d like to think- that recent negative trends in attitudes are the result of politics and not any permanent retrenchment of racist attitudes.

          I hope you also find the numbers and analysis encouraging. If most of us can reach a similar perspective on the big picture, perhaps we can find some common ground from which to address the subordinate issues where Silver and McCann see regression in attitudes. Those issues may be addressed effectively without the soul-searing introspection that has characterized our efforts on the broader issues of racist attitudes and racism.

          • legal eagle

            My pleasure…I think that racial attitudes are changing dramatically among those 40 and younger…It’s a generational issue which will take some more time to change….but the survey looks hopeful…

          • sjangers

            “It’s a generational issue which will take some more time to change”

            Does that mean you’re also looking forward to seeing us die off? : (

          • legal eagle

            Not for another 25 years…at least….LOL

          • sjangers

            Well, I guess that’s encouraging. So I’ll just have the family to worry about for a while.

          • legal eagle
          • sjangers

            Sadly, that happened pretty much in my back yard. The Bruins are my hockey team, although not all Bruins fans are my kind of people.
            I’m not entirely sure of the direction in which to take this conversation. There are so many things that might be said and so many thoughts worth exploring. First, is the general observation that racist attitudes- or any bigotry- isn’t likely to completely disappear any time soon. Some of it is ingrained in our DNA; a human defense mechanism locked in place by evolution. The thing that can change is how we express those feelings or auto-reactions. Progress is being made in that regard, although perhaps not as quickly as the huge strides we have made toward overcoming culturally-ingrained biases (what you’ve termed racism).
            For what it’s worth, while I still hear occasional expressions of racial or ethnic bias, the much more prominent observation is the way people respond to those expressions. For most of us, that kind of behavior is definitely noticed as out of place and unwelcome. Even if nothing is said, the body language makes feelings clear.
            I don’t think such attitudes can ever be eradicated- and I think it might be counterproductive to try to do so- but steady social pressure is being brought to bear against expressions of bigotry. I think we’re getting where we need to go, although we may not arrive entirely at that ultimate goal for many more generations. I don’t think it’s likely that American society will ever completely eliminate bigoted thoughts and the occasional expression of them. But I do think that we are very close to functionally eliminating those biases as a serious obstacle in our culture.
            Finally, and this is by no means a justification for the way that fans expressed their feelings, but P. K. Subban has been a thorn in the side of Bruins fans for several years now. He’s hated in Boston, but I don’t think it has anything to do with the color of his skin. He’s good. He plays for the hated Canadiens. His style of play doesn’t suit many Bruins fans. And he always seems to elevate his play against the Bruins. If his skin were a different color he would still be hated and reviled in Boston, but ignorant fans would have to find other ways to vent their displeasure.
            For what it’s worth, again, P. K.’s younger brother, Malcolm, was drafted by the Bruins two years ago. Boston fans were absolutely delighted to have him in the organization. If anyone had any complaints, I never heard them expressed. And his skin is the same color as his brother’s.

          • legal eagle

            All I can say is that I watched some of the Bruins game and I was amazed how the winning shot got through all the bodies in front of Rask…LOL

          • sjangers

            That’s interesting. In the same moment you were amazed by the physics of the winning goal, I was thinking about the thrilling way the Bruins had already come back twice from deficits in the game and was suddenly amazed to discover how much God apparently hates me.

          • legal eagle

            Been going to Ranger games since the days of Gump Worsley….Always amazed at what great athletes hockey players are…

          • sjangers

            I became a hockey fan in the mid-Seventies, but I do remember Gump Worsley. I think he was in Minnesota and at the end of his career when I heard of him. One of the last goalies to play without a mask, iirc.

          • legal eagle

            I believe you are correct on both counts….The good old days when men were men and didn’t mind taking a puck in the mouth…LOL

          • sjangers

            Crazy stuff. I’m just amazed that they used to play that game with so little protective gear. I remember Gerry Cheevers used to ‘decorate’ his fiberglass goalie mask with stitches for every shot he took to the face. Worsley didn’t even have that much protection and he still played for about twenty years.

          • legal eagle

            I once met Jacques Plante and asked him where he got his mask? He was very gracious and said in a thick French accent that someone in the Canadians
            clubhouse went to a local sporting goods store and bought him the first one ever used…

          • sjangers

            I didn’t know that Plante was the first goalie to use a mask. Heck of a netminder, even if he did play for the hated Habs.

          • Jiven Cliven

            Played for the Rangers too (traded Worsley to get him if i remember correctly)

          • sjangers

            I know Plante mostly from Canadien history. It seems like they always managed to have a good goalie. Plante was there before my time, but he was still talked about when Ken Dryden came along. Didn’t any sooner get rid of that guy and Patrick Roy showed up for about twenty years. Damned Canadiens.

          • Jiven Cliven

            I think Dryden retired while still at his peak to become a doctor or lawyer or something. I don’t remember much about hockey in the mid ’60s except that every year the Rangers and Bruins were the 2 teams of the 6 team league that didn’t make the playoffs

          • sjangers

            Dryden probably became a lawyer. He ended up serving in the Canadian parliament. He may still serve there.

            I was probably fortunate I wasn’t aware of hockey in the Sixties. The Bruins had apparently been a disaster for years before they brought in Esposito and Orr came along.

          • legal eagle

            Played for Rangers at end of career…..also got to meet Bernie Geoffrion …..cie la vie

          • sjangers

            Another great Canadien who played for the Rangers at the end? This is an interesting side of you, Eagle. I never pictured you as a hockey fanboy. : )

          • legal eagle

            I have a son who played youth hockey….Seems like I spent years at freezing skating rinks at odd hours….LOL

          • sjangers

            And perhaps explains how you ended up in Southern California?

  • CQ

    I agree that Mr. Sterling has a poor attitude about blacks, but he has a right to his opinion. However, he did not express hatred of people of color, he only told his ex-girlfriend he didn’t want her to associate in public with them. I call her
    his “ex-girlfriend” because she is no friend, whether he keeps on
    associating with her, or not.

    • loupgarous

      The most reprehensible thing about the whole episode is the directive nature of his comments to his ex(?)-mistress. He was giving instructions to an employee. Pure and simple. Which makes the woman in question a worker in the sex trade. She broadcast evidence of the fact, and did so by divulging a private telephone conversation (which, if I recall, is STILL a Federal felony). But the prostitute and wiretapper goes free and is applauded implicitly by the press, who help her adjust her relationship with her former employer, Mr. Sterling, and Mr.Sterling’s euchred out of his franchise rights by the NBA, who skated right past the river of public racist and homophobic comments by people like Karl Malone to focus on Mr. Sterling’s intercepted private phone call.

      Here’s hoping Sterling hires a GOOD attorney. He ought to make out like a bandit in court.

      • Sheila Warner

        The crime the mistress committed is a misdemeanor, not a felony. Each state has its own wiretapping laws, and in CA, this was a misdemeanor.

        • loupgarous

          A Federal anti-wiretapping statute’s still on the books.
          http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2511
          Breaking THAT law’s a felony.

          • Sheila Warner

            How the crime is prosecuted is up to the district attorney. S/he has discretion. http://www.shouselaw.com/eavesdropping.html

          • loupgarous

            In the case of charges under 18 U.S. Code § 2511 – “Interception and disclosure of wire, oral, or electronic communications prohibited,” the discretion would be the district US attorney’s. The US Attorney in a given area is technically bound to be apolitical in his or her acts, but under this administration, the Justice Department’s acts have been very nakedly political. They won’t go after someone on whose behalf the President has publicly spoken, or to protect the rights of someone who has been openly condemned by the President.

        • Patrick

          Hmm, where’s “legal” eagle in all this high level legal discussion?

          • Sheila Warner

            He’s around. Just scroll through….

      • legal eagle

        Taping a phone call is a “Federal felony”? What are you talking about?

        • loupgarous

          http://www.law.cornell.edu/usc
          Breaking THAT law’s a felony.
          “(4)
          (a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this subsection or in subsection (5), whoever violates subsection (1) of this section shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.”

  • squeaky

    I agree about Mr. Sterling being ostracized for those remarks, but I have to push back at Bernie’s contention that words said in a private setting should be outed for public ridicule. Should each of us become the thought police or speech police or position police? Should we all carry recording devices around and “catch” someone unguarded in order to right a perceived wrong? Should be pit american against american, husband against wife, brother against sister or child against father? What ever happened to having your home as your castle? What issue will be off limits next? Who will decide the issue? The mob? There has to be some iota left of privacy left, and it should be your home.

    • Deborah G

      I agree wholeheartedly. This used to be America and we used to have freedom of speech.

      • wildjew

        Perhaps you need to go back and re-read the First Amendment, not that I am a Constitutionalist. At least you need understand what the Amendment says. Have you read the First Amendment?

        • Deborah G

          I did many years ago in school but you are correct it is a wise thing to do which I will tonight. Thanks Deb

        • loupgarous

          I’ve read the First Amendment. GOVERNMENT can’t dictate what Americans may or may not say, which makes it puzzling that the Chief Executive of the Federal Government felt he had to weigh in on the matter.

          • wildjew

            The Chief Executive of the Federal Government has weighed in (many believe inappropriately in some instances) on several issues involving race. Had he said what the NBA should do to Stearling, wouldn’t that be another matter?

          • loupgarous

            Well, in one particular matter – Federal sanctions against V. Stiviano under 18 U.S. Code § 2511 – “Interception and disclosure of wire, oral, or electronic communications prohibited,” President Obama has probably precluded any Federal prosecution in the matter.

          • Sheila Warner

            The DA has discretion in choosing whether to prosecute at all, and, if so, to charge either as a misdemeanor or as a felony. http://www.shouselaw.com/eavesdropping.html

          • loupgarous

            You’re citing California statute law which is undoubtedly binding, Sheila, but again, politics and careerism influence prosecutions just as much as the law does. No one’s going out on a limb just to pursue a state misdemeanor count on V. Stiviano and/or TMZ and potentially attract immense adverse publicity.

            Sterling’s best bet would be civil action under which he could wind up getting swingeing damages against V. Stiviano and TMZ for infraction of 18 U.S. Code § 2511 – “Interception and disclosure of wire, oral, or electronic communications prohibited.”

          • Sheila Warner

            I cited CA law b/c that’s where the crime took place. I’m not saying it couldn’t or shouldn’t be prosecuted as a felony. I realize prosecutions are political. But I am absolutely in agreement that Sterling has an excellent foundation for lodging a civil suit against Stiviano and TMZ. If he loses ownership of his team, that will be a financial loss which is a direct result of her criminal action.

            TMZ has deep pockets. I think it was a mistake not to consult with their legal team prior to publishing the audio recording. Sterling seems like a mean old b@stard, and he is a billionaire to boot. I wouldn’t want to be on his bad side, that’s for sure.

            I believe in privacy rights, and I believe that being deprived of property due to private comments illegally obtained and made public is not something that is good for the country. I realize it’s a business decision, but the future ramifications for every citizen are negative. We all say things we don’t want broadcast. Should we be stripped of our property based on our thoughts, no matter how vile? I’m not so sure.

          • loupgarous

            In my opinion, the entire law of humanity has been moving toward apodicity – applying to every man or woman regardless of the esteem in which the public holds them. For five thousand years, that’s the direction the law has been evolving toward. No slaves, no helots, no underclasses who do not get full protection of the law.

            Yet people who call themselves “liberals” want to deny Sterling protection of his holdings based on the shady publication of his private conversations with his mistress. A giant leap backward, because the press can paint any man or woman as a bad hat, regardless of the truth.

            If the disclosure of the phone calls isn’t prosecuted at some level, we all lose. All of us are subject to being tried in the court of public opinion and possibly in courts of law because of a slip of the tongue to a spouse, a friend, a lover (who might later become a jilted or scorned lover).

            It’d be nice if ACLU would pick the cudgel up for Sterling, not because he needs their resources, but to vindicate themselves as defenders of civil liberties regardless of the color of the person whose liberties are in trouble. An amicus brief from them would be an encouraging sing for all of us.

          • Deborah G

            Liberals only want fairness if they say it is ok. They don’t want fairness or the law applied equally they want the laws to punish anyone who doesn’t agree with them/.

          • legal eagle

            “Interception”? what exactly was intercepted? Was Sterling’s phone tapped?

          • loupgarous

            V. Stiviano recorded a private oral electronic communication between herself and Sterling, then disclosed it against Sterling’s will to TMZ Sports.

    • David in Virginia

      I believe Bernie is speaking ironically here – he is pointing out the absurdity of the idea that every private comment should become public.

    • loupgarous

      Agreed. Social sanctions ought to be applied to Mr. Sterling, not just, or even mainly, for his racism as for his inconsiderate treatment of his wife and family with his philandering. It probably won’t impact Sterling much at all – it was obvious that he was buying his mistress’ company before, and at outrageously high prices, even at English callgirl rates. He’ll find another girl to give it up for cash and valuable gifts.

      But the NBA comes off as really hypocritical, having presided over a swamp of foul-mouthed racist, sexist and gender-intolerant language for decades, then kicking down Sterling’s door like the Vichy cop in Casablanca – “Gambling? Here? I’m SHOCKED!”

      • legal eagle

        Keep the hate coming…You’re doing good work

        • loupgarous

          What hate? I expressed hostility for hypocrisy. Perhaps that upset you.

  • joepotato

    Well maybe Obama aka bath house Barry Soetoro should be fired or forced to resign for ignoring the plight of white people getting beat up and/or killed by black people playing the knockout game. After all, he must approve of “the game” since he hasn’t come out opposed to it. And then there’s Holdup,who allowed “his people” aka the New Black Panthers to intimidate white voters. His follow up was to try and get federal charges on Zimmerman, the white Hispanic who was cleared of murder charges. I think we can afford to let those two go.

  • SkyCitizen

    Before I retired, I was a working stiff like everybody else who wanted an income. I worked for a large corporation which had a lot of public exposure. Because I represented that company it was incumbent upon me to present myself to the public in a neutral way in my behaviour and my politics. It was my responsibility not to devalue the company’s public image by my activities personally and publicly. However, this did not prevent me from having opinions or beliefs privately that might be an anathema in some precincts.

    I believe in Mr. Sterling’s situation a line has been crossed no matter how reprehensible his attitude or opinion might seem. Even a schmuck, in America, has a right to privacy. The press, during the Kennedy Administration, certainly understood that and opted for the right to privacy rather than going for the sensational. It was in the national interest.

    Today’s press is a different story. False accounts are published with impunity. Even some true reportage of private information does no favor for the public but damages the immediate family of the person being reported on.

    In short, somewhere along the way the press has lost it’s moral compass. Many in the press serve no meaningful use to their readers. The value of journalism is in its ability to inform and improve their subscribers understanding of the world we live in; not to promote divisions among us.

    Thank you Bernie for taking the traditional path.

  • Nicholas344

    Bernie wrote: “I understand that Sterling had a high-profile job and that the NBA is pretty much a black league. So his dumb remarks were especially hurtful. But if we want to stamp out racism, what better way than to hold everybody accountable for what they say – no matter where they say it!

    I am confused, however, about why there is no universal condemnation of athletes who father children in every city in the league. Or of athletes who beat up their girlfriends. Or of athletes who drive drunk and kill people. I guess none of those things warrant the moral outrage that bigoted words uttered by a foolish old man in private warrant.”

    We’ve already established that in your eyes the right thing to do is attack white people like Bundy who have spoken the obvious. They have had the audacity to say that people in physical slavery can reveal greater character than people living by secular progressive standards. You wouldn’t understand what is necessary for diminishing racism. You are too politically correct to open your mind to common sense.

    • loupgarous

      If the NBA banned every racist and homophobic loudmouth PLAYER in the league, it’d sure simplify post-season play. You’d have maybe eight teams’ worth of players in pro basketball.

      • Nicholas344

        True, but what’s wrong with that? Everyone is talking about fairness and racism. Obviously Spike Lee should be banned from attending any games. He is openly racist against whites. That is a beginning. Then JZ should be banned because of his racist rap. I could go on. There are many who must be banned in the interest of fairness and the fight against racism

  • delble

    I never watch the NBA, but I do have some questions about this ordeal. When can we ban Jeremiah Wright from his church for his horrible, racial comments? When will black rappers be banned from singing their disgusting racial songs? When will Al Sharpton be banned from television for his distorted, racial comments? When is John Kerry going to resign for calling Israel an apartheid nation? When will our president be asked to stop his constant apologetic stance about everything American? This is a VERY dangerous precedent and it will come back to haunt the NBA and those who are causing hysteria about Mr. Sterling. Is Kareem the only person with common sense?

    • loupgarous

      Charles Barkley has more than the average amount of common sense, too. He though George Zimmerman got screwed by the government.

  • Paul

    Well Bernie, you fell short of condemning the entire episode. So I will say it for you, “Donald Stirling is a fool…but rich enough to weather the storm. He might get a windfall as there is always some other brand of fool eager to buy one of those Sports Franchises. So the old boy might just be crazy….like a fox!
    I on the other hand have a few things to say about racism – on the other side of the fence. Perhaps we should kick Michele Obama out of the White house and let our President live with her Mother and the daughters for his lame duck period for she has said her share of that stupid stuff…about us white folks.
    Then there is the “N” word. It would have disappeared decades ago, had not the Black people of this nation kept it alive for some sick nostalgic reason. Of course they say…in response to our incredulity, “That is between us.” Having it both way is what got us in all this racial stew in the first place….but not one major (or minor) black organization will condemn the utterance of the “N” word if the speaker is Black.
    We really have a mess on our hands.
    Let me end my rant as follows: Jesse Jackson and his ilk make too good a living keeping this crap alive. But for the Sterlings of this world Jesse might just be sharing a cell with his Son…and Reverend Al…well he could be endorsing Weight Watchers.
    Then we can all buy our own phones!

  • Michael

    The NBA, a cartel of billionaire business partners, decided they no longer wanted to be in business with the man. Why? Because it will affect their business in a negative way. They are absolutely entitled to make this decision if it is part of their bylaws and constitution (which it is), just as Mr. Sterling is entitled to have the racist beliefs he has.

    • loupgarous

      Wrong. This would be the case if there were no substantial investment involved in owning an NBA franchise. But there is, and Mr. Sterling just lost that substantial investment because the other NBA owners suddenly discovered that racist speech is bad, despite half of their players specializing in bigoted speech of every sort. I’d say that Mr. Sterling can make a decent case that he’s simply adhering to standards long ago tacitly accepted by the NBA.

      • ARJ127

        The other owners also have substantial investments in the NBA. They are acting to protect their own interests when they sanction Sterling. Having a franchise in the NBA is much like owning a condominium unit. The “owner” has title to his unit. However, he has to abide by the rules of the condo corporation. If he acts in a way that causes damage to the corporation, he may be sanctioned by it. Somehow, I have my doubts that Sterling will be forced to sell. There are other owners who have skeletons in their closets. What if they get exposed? Will they also face the termination of their franchises?

  • Jivin Cliven

    Follow the $$$. The fundamental principle is that relevancy increases as a function of how the words/deeds in question translate into $$$. Bashir, Eich, Bundy, and now Sterling all found that out. the anonymous accountant, truck driver, programmer (Eich had he remained as such), athletes fathering children, beating their wives, or driving drunk, not so much. Privacy? That is a thing of the past that (similar to jobs shipped overseas) is not coming back, but has no bearing on the fundamental principle. Still confused? Try getting out of line on The Factor and see what happens..

    • loupgarous

      A contestant on the Factor’s a paid actor. His or her demeanor is part and parcel of what he or she is paid for. But your analogy broke down long before that. Bashir, Eich, and Bundy were speaking into microphones or spending traceable cash to public political fora. Sterling made a private phone call to a skank who recorded it and replayed it publicly.

      • Jivin Cliven

        Yeah there is that distinction and maybe it adds an extra dimension but like I said it is irrelevant to the fundamental principle which is $$$. If the skank broke any laws then let her be prosecuted. Or let Sterling sue her. Trump sued a contestant in one of his beauty pageants who said that the pageant was fixed and was awarded $5M in damages.

  • ted

    “So his dumb remarks were especially hurtful.” Bernie you and O’Reilly buy into the Progressive hocus that “words can harm you”…HOW? Make you feel bad? Duh, that’s part of life. Make you bleed? Faint? “Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words can never harm you.” I grew up knowing that my feelings would get hurt, it is part of life. But you never get H – U – R – T. But psychiatrists, psychologists, activists and Progressives want you to believe they do, so they can get paid through cash and power to control the lives of others. And, Bernie, and most of America falls for it. That is why Progressives will continue to own America, until: Read “The Road to Serfdom” to follow the future course of America. And, Bernie, you are a well-paid contributor to the road…….

  • wildjew

    Mr. Stearling reportedly said: “You go to Israel, the blacks are just treated like dogs.” No doubt Israel has its share of difficulties between Jews from different parts of the globe, between Ashkenazi Jews (like Stearling) and Sephardic Jews who are largely from Muslim and Muslim Arab countries, between secular Jews and religious Jews, etc. I wonder if Stearling knows it was Ashkenazi Jews like Menachem Begin who rescued the Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel) via airlift to Israel.

    • loupgarous

      Mr. Sterling is learning the consequences of throwing his mouth into gear while his brain was unengaged. Thanks for giving us that example – he’s now learning that money might buy you sex from tramps and respectful nods from liberal politicians while they take your money, but loyalty? Never.

  • ted

    People think other people are black, if they are, will always occur. If that’s racism, it’ll never end.

    • Ron F

      Ted, obviously we acknowledge that we are all different races. On the other hand when you identify or characterize people by their race, I think it is racism. As I said, I have not seen a similar headline about whites.

  • Ron F

    I am not sure that this incident shows that racism is not alive and well in this country. I would hope that it is true. Nevertheless, one of the headlines for a blogger on this site included “Black Ninnies in the News”. I do not recall seeing a similar headline about whites. We certainly are not a color blind society.

  • American1969

    While Sterling’s comments were stupid, and he’s a bigot, I don’t think he deserves to be drummed out of the business for statements he made in private, in his own home. Are we now going to have to worry about Speech Police and being informed upon because we said the wrong thing? Is that goose stepping I hear in the background?
    First, it was the guy (sorry I can’t remember his name offhand at the moment) from Mozilla-Firefox losing his job for supporting Proposition 8. Let’s also not forget Paula Deen being raked over the coals for something she said TWENTY YEARS AGO in PRIVATE. And now Sterling with these stupid statements.
    So when are Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farakhan, Jeremiah Wright, Malik Shabazz, NBPP, and other so-called “black leaders” going to be raked over the coals and lose their jobs and be banned for their hate speech and racism? How about the president opening his pie hole when black racism occurs?
    Ooops! Guess I’ll be waiting for Hell to freeze over before any of that happens! I forgot: Only white people are racist.
    Disgusting.

  • Global Guy

    Sterling is a known jerk who has no use for anyone but himself. Funny that the team he owned signed free agent basketball players, paid high saleries to mostly black athletes and not a word spoken regarding his past well documented anti everyone behavior. Possibly the large contributions to the Urban League, NAACP and the Democratic Party kept the players and the media very quiet.
    Great piece Bernie!

  • Pete

    To put in his own words, Bernie says he’s “…never ever said anything that might even vaguely be construed as politically incorrect. But I’ll bet you have.” Then later in the article he writes “…the NBA is pretty much a black league.”
    QUESTION: Is the term “a black league” politically correct?
    I’m thinking the politically correct term is “African-American” rather than the word “black” and then he goes on and writes “…racist words cannot be tolerated in America, not in 2014.”
    WOW!

    • Spencer

      Charles Barkley said it this week.

    • Maverick

      Are you stupid? Black people say black. Grow up.

    • semmy

      Pete, just to make sure, you do realize that Bernie was being sarcastic when he wrote that he’s never said anything politically incorrect, right?

  • Chris Matthewson

    There is a major court case brewing here: Sterling vs. Silver vs. the Golddigger

    And don’t forget, Don Sterling is still married (in a community property state). If he bought the team for $12 million and the Clippers are now worth $600 million, there are all sorts of legal and financial implications from a forced sale.

    Ahhhh…to be a lawyer in Southern California….

    • legal eagle

      What legal and financial implications are you referring to? Do you know who the legal owner of the team is? Do you know if it’s collateralized?
      As Sterling is a man of means and an attorney a lawsuit against the NBA would not be unexpected.

      • Tim Ned

        “What legal and financial implications are you referring to?”

        A wife, mistress, millions of dollars, a sports franchise and you’re asking what Chris was referring to? I thought you were an attorney?

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          >> I thought you were an attorney?

          Don’t be so sure about that. There’s a pretty good chance he’s just been playing one on the Internet.

          • Tim Ned

            hmmmm, an internet legal eagle. Wonder what the hourly rates are?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Pro bono, I believe.

          • loupgarous

            Well, there’s plenty of precedent for Internet professionals. Gynecological procedures happen all the time in chat rooms.

          • Patrick

            Notice the loud silence on “legal” eagle’s part?

        • legal eagle

          His financial implication is paying a large tax bill……His wife of 50 years hasn’t changed. His mistresses have no financial interests in his businesses.
          If his wife files for divorce whether he owns the team, or not, it’s all community property.
          What do you think selling the team changes?

  • http://batman-news.com 1940voter

    Well lets see how long Al Sharpton or Big Ed keep their jobs . Lets see if the trolls working in the democratic party can lie , cheat , steal, use whatever term they want about republicans or tea party people?

  • abe

    I would like to see if Mr Silver” throws down the hammer” on JayZ, because of the medallion he proudly wears, which it means in effect a put down against white people. JayZ is part owner of the Brooklyn Nets. Not Nice by Jay Z, a black racist is far different than a white one in the media. The hammer will not be thrown

  • Mark Brickey

    I actually AGREE with Bernie this time!

  • floridahank

    Outside of saying something racist, did Sterling ever actually exhibit any racist behavior? There are many people who have one form or another racist belief, but if never made public, are these people any worse than Sterling?

    • rs724503

      Yes. He’s been sued for several acts of discrimination in housing as well as by Elgin Baylor.

      • floridahank

        Yes, sorry to say I didn’t do much research until now. What I think is hypocritical is that there are many powerful persons who continue to hold racial bias but it’s never made public. I guess sometimes it’s bad luck that catches up with some, while the others continue living their racist lives.
        Sterling should not be made to sell his investment in the team — that’s giving too much power to certain entities and as the saying goes, “power corrupts,” so nobody should be entitled to make such a huge demand.

        • loupgarous

          Certainly without proving that this sudden and unexpected declaration of “zero tolerance” for racism in one’s private speech is not a capricious act, but one which reflects a consistent pattern of punishing racist speech to that extend in the NBA. Has anyone else been banned from the NBA for life for private trash talk?

  • Tim Ned

    My wife reminded me the other day that I mumble in my
    sleep. Note to self; get sleep therapy
    fast!

  • Hyperbolic Dumbass

    My mother — and probably your mother — said it best: “If you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all.” Or at least, keep it to yourself.

    • Deborah G

      How do you do that when the thought police are coming?

  • Deborah G

    That must follow then that all the Hockey Players are on the planatation too and are slaves? Sure when you sell your talent for money thats what you sell not a guarantee that the buyer isn’t a bigot.

  • Jsebastian

    The reaction to racist comments has now become more disturbing that the comments themselves –like everybody thinks they have a right to spit in the face at any white-skinned person who says something perceived as racist. And who decides when something said is racist? Who’s making a profit out of this?

    Today’s racialism is worse than the racism itself. I have a hope that this will all be just a fad that will eventually go away, so we can all live in peace for once.

  • AnMar22

    Hey, I agree with you, Bernie, and Kareem. Who brought this comment to the attention of the public; after all it was a private conversation between a man and his girlfriend. Also, he’s mature (?), she’s young, gorgeous. He’s worried he may lose her to younger guys.That made him “nervous”. Well, stick with your own contemporaries.

    • loupgarous

      the puzzling thing about those calls were the instructions for the courtesan not to be seen with “black guys.” So white guys were all right?

  • Brian Stover

    If there is a hell, I hope Donald Sterling and Louis Farrakhan are roommates.

    • Eddie

      no comprende

  • Deborah G

    I agree, look what goes on in the privacy of your home or relationaship is NONE of anyone’s business. I didn’t like his comments nor do I think they were approriate but they are his and his alone. Let the free markets decide , if people don’t like what he has to say or how he believes then don’t hand over money to his team simple.That being said the girlfriend? A complete moron. he chose his players well he needs to be more discriminating in the women he keeps company with. I’m sure he knew she was a liberal

  • Drew Page

    Excellent piece Bernie. I agree that Sterling’s comments were generally hurtful to black people, the NBA, his team and Magic Johnson in particular. His private conversation gave a clear indication that he was somehow diminished and embarrassed by having it brought up to him that his girlfriend was seen hanging out with ‘black guys’ , as though ‘black guys’ were some sort of terrorist organization.

    If Sterling knew that his conversation with this young woman was being recorded he should be jailed for being ‘criminally stupid’. If he didn’t know, he was victimized. How many of us have said things in private, when we were angry or frustrated, or just kidding around, that we would have never said in public? I know I have. The thought of someone recording and releasing your private comments to the public that could cost you your job is frightening. This is exactly the kind of thing that gives political correctness its muscle.

    I agree with Abdul-Jabbar’s assessment. The fact that some blacks have said worse about whites, or have beaten up or raped girlfriends is irrelevant, because some whites have done the same thing and one bad deed does not justify someone of an opposite race doing the same thing. Saying that someone of another race is somehow inherently inferior is wrong and it’s hurtful.

    • loupgarous

      http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/27/donald-sterling-racist-audio-v-stiviano-recorded-clippers/ – according to the woman scorned (or sued, at least), recording the phone calls was Sterling’s idea.

      “A source connected with V. Stiviano tells TMZ Sports … the full conversation lasted approximately 1 hour. We’re told Stiviano insists it was clear to Sterling at the beginning of the conversation he was being recorded.

      What’s more … our sources say Stiviano routinely recorded her conversations with Sterling as HIS “archivist.” And what’s more … she would regularly play the tapes back to him because he would often forget what he had said.

      Our sources say sometime after the tape was recorded on April 9 … Stiviano and Sterling got in an argument because he wanted her to sign a confidentiality agreement … which she would not. We’re told he then denied ever making the racist statements on the tape, so she played the entire tape for back him … before it was ever posted on TMZ Sports.”

      Sounds like “he said, she said, and a panicky Internet gossip site said to cover their butts against a work product or confidentiality suit”

  • wildjew

    For the past couple or so days Limbaugh went with the meme that Stearling is a typical Democrat. I still tune in from time to time but less so since Limbaugh virtually uncritically carried George W. Bush’s (lying) water for eight years; still does. Turns out Stearling is a registered Republican since 1998. Is it getting to the point that Limbaugh isn’t worth listening to?

    • toddyo1935

      So was Mayor Bloomberg. Sterling’s political donations were to Dems. Guess he’s qualify with McCain, Graham and King as RINO’s.

      • wildjew

        Right. My late friend (chairman of our local Republican Executive Committee) called people like Stearling “political prostitutes.”

        • American1969

          Elected Prostitute is an apt description for any politician!

    • Jim

      Then don’t listen. And if you are referring to Bush’s WMD’s as lying, then where do you think Syria got their WMD’s that they are currently using on their own people?

      • Deborah G

        Don’t confuse a liberal with facts it makes them pee in their panties.

        • wildjew

          I would be happy to compare my conservatism with your conservatism. I am not however a blind partisan but an “independent” conservative. I don’t like liars, especially those like George W. Bush whom I voted for in 2000.

          • Deborah G

            I happen to know the family and the word “liar” is not in the least bit discriptive of this fine man. He may have made erros and he is the first to say he did however he BELIEVD and acted on his beliefs. No he is not a liar and the WMD”S? In Syrias hands right now as we speak. See the Navy satellite video of the convoy across the border =right before the UN inspectors came in.

          • wildjew

            The following is what President Bush told the nation after the 9/11/2001 attacks in New York and Washington:

            Islam’s “teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah.”

            “The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself.”

            True or false? Did Bush tell the American people the truth when he assured us Islam is a religion of peace? Is he right, these nineteen devout Muslim hijackers (martyrs for Allah) were traitors to their faith? Did they blaspheme the name of Allah as Bush assured the American people?

            Bush said Israeli communities are in Judea and Samaria constitute “occupied territories” and building in them “must stop, and the occupation must end…”

            Did Bush tell the truth? Is Judea and Samaria (which according to the League of Nations Mandate constituted the Jewish national home, from the Jordan river to the Mediterranean sea) illegally or illegitimately occupied by Israel as George W. Bush and Condoleezza Rice maintained?

          • Tom Tusing

            Who did he direct the statement to? I maybe wrong but his G/F looks and acts Ghetto as hell, was she bring thugs to the game That happen to be Black? If so there was not a damn thing wrong with the comment I’n mot sure how it went down but I don’t think none of you or the Basketball commission does either. Someone wants this team and now they will probably get it.

          • wildjew

            PS: I want to add, a lie especially a lie told by a world leader in ignorance or “innocently” is a lie nonetheless in my opinion. Ignorance of the untruthfulness of a statement or a claim about the enemy does not completely absolve the one who misleads a nation as Bush clearly mislead the American people about the religion of Islam and the about the land of Israel.

          • Deborah G

            Good for you, we disagree

          • wildjew

            I wish you would address my questions below. I was looking through some of your recent comments — like me, you aren’t hiding anything. I can see points of agreement. I am a forty-three year registered (conservative) Republican. I voted for Bush in 2000. I don’t expect perfection or purity. I expect honesty from a Republican president that I voted for especially when he claims to be a committed Christian. Is that too much to ask? You wrote earlier: “You simply cannot negotiate with a known terrorist group!!! Any moron that thinks these people [Arabs] have any intention of peace they are a planet far from earth.”

            Perhaps you are aware PA President Mahmoud Abbas was the paymaster for the 1972 massacre of Israeli athletes in Munich, Germany. He was arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat’s right hand man. Abbas’s doctoral dissertation was on Holocaust denial. Fatah and Hamas share the same goal, the obliteration of Israel. Only they have different tactics.

            President Bush said publicly, Abbas is “a man of peace and a man of vision.” I agree with you, you simply cannot negotiate with a known terrorist or a terrorist group. Like Barack Obama, Bush negotiated with a know terrorist and terrorist group and pressured Israel to make concessions to a known terrorist and terrorist group. Why don’t you expect better from a self-professed Christian and a Republican like Bush? How can you say he is a fine man when he did all these terrible things like vowing “you are either with us or you are with the terrorists” and then proceeded to side with Palestinian (PLO) Islamic terrorists? Why don’t you expect better from a Republican president?

          • Robert Silky Campbell

            @wildjew:disqus If you are truly an Israelite, then prepare for the second holocaust brought on by the Price of Lies. He is on our doorstep already.

          • wildjew

            Prince of lies? Are you talking about Barack Obama? I cannot say I see a second holocaust on the people of Israel unless you are talking about a holocaust of global proportions.

          • Robert Silky Campbell

            Yes and no. Don’t overlook the lack of character of Joe Biden. And there will be an all out attack on Christians and Jews here in the USA. But there will also be a full scale attack on Israel. I see that too be about 6 years away though. And there will be a WWIII. It will be so violent that before it ends, fighting will be done with sticks and stones. The government turned against g-d and his people back when Roosevelt was in office and most are too blinded by worldly things too see it.

          • wildjew

            Could be wrong. I think we’ve got a few more years. Look for the Temple to be re-built on that holy mountain in Jerusalem.

          • Robert Silky Campbell

            I am looking at that. That deal with Netanyahu is the only way there will ever be a peace pact with the Palestinians. You do realize how many prophecies point to BO being the beast? I quit counting at 28.

          • loupgarous

            In practical terms, wildjew? The Saudis have several squadrons of former Chinese DF-3A IRBMs with such lousy accuracy that the only weapon that makes sense to put in their nosecones is a thermonuclear device in the megaton range. Pakistan is rumored to have committed such weapons to the Saudis in the event of a regional war.

            We know that the Iranians have all the components not just for low-yield fission weapons, but tritium for fusion-boosting and even for full-on thermonuclear weapons.

            And the Israelis themselves are estimated to own between 200-400 nuclear devices of various yields and sizes, on the “Jericho” IRBM as well as on the “Super Popeye” cruise missile on Israel subs patrolling in the Indian Ocean, and on several nuclear-capable fighter-bombers.

            All the tripwires are now strung for a holocaust by whatever way you define it. Practical or religious.

          • loupgarous

            Point well made, Bush was an incredibly bad judge of character. His “eye contact” moment with Vladimir Putin was a minor catastrophe for our country, but Bush and Condoleeza Rice were vigilant when they needed to be on the issue of missile defense for Europe – something the Obama administration treated as a horrible insult to the Russians, promising no more of that nasty trying to protect Europe from Russian IRBMs.

          • wildjew

            Obama is much worse than Bush but I didn’t vote for Obama. I voted for Bush. I am a registered Republican.

          • loupgarous

            It’s Bibi Netanyahu’s job and the job of every other Israeli politician to advocate for Eretz Israel. It was George W. Bush’s job to try and prevent unnecessary bloodshed regardless of the various competing claims to that land.

          • wildjew

            You are arguing what even Bush did not argue, that he had no moral obligation to be consistent in his “war on terrorism” as he called it. Likewise would you argue FDR had no obligation to extend a hand the Jews before or during the Holocaust because presumably as Catholic Church officials reasoned, desperate Jews could take care of themselves? How does establishing yet another terror state (this one in Israel’s heartland) prevent unnecessary bloodshed, might I ask?

          • wildjew

            Alas, you are a blind partisan. That is largely why we have Barack Obama in the White House. You will not hold one of your own accountable. If he or she behaves like a scoundrel, you insist, “He is our scoundrel.”

          • loupgarous

            George W. Bush had his faults. I lost a son in his rushed, ill-conceived pushing of National Guard troops into the Iraq surge. But compared to Barack Obama, he’s George Washington and Thomas Jefferson rolled into one.

          • sjangers

            It’s very small compensation for your loss, loupgarous, but I hope you’ll accept my condolences and deep appreciation for the sacrifice that you and your family made for all of us. I wish I had more than words to offer.

        • loupgarous

          I’m rolling on the floor, laughing. For something like that, you have to write it all out.

      • wildjew

        I infrequently listen to Limbaugh unless for informational purposes there is a pressing issue. No I am not referring to WMD. I am referring to Bush’s repeated lies about Islam “whose teachings” he opined, “are peaceful and good.” I am referring to Bush lying to the American people that devout Muslims he called “terrorists” hijacked a peaceful religion. I am talking about Bush, Powell, Rice’s lies about Israel illegitimately “occupying” Muslim land and his betrayal of Israel to the Saudis late August 2001. Bush changed decades of GOP policy which opposed the establishment of a Muslim-terror state in Israel, making the establishment of a Muslim-enemy state in Israel’s heartland a “formal goal of U.S.” and Republican party “policy.” What say you about all these lies and treachery from this self-professed born-again Christian hypocrite? In the event, is it any wonder Americans elected a dangerous “Muslim-born” president with deep sympathies for the world of Islam only seven years out from the 9/11 attacks? How would Americans have known from Bush that Obama’s birthright is anything other than a religion of goodness and peace?

    • Paul Vasek

      Rush stated the other day on his show that Sterling was a registered republican since the 90’s but gives to democrats…apparently you only hear what you want to.

      • wildjew

        I did not listen to the entire program. If he said Stearling is a registered Republican then I retract part of my complaint. Some or many (registered) Republican businessmen (our late Republican party chairman called them “political prostitutes”) give to both parties; whoever is in power or has the power. That is another problem. I don’t see where that is an issue in terms of racism as this piece suggests. Why make it an issue? There are racists and anti-Semites in both parties. Democratic party has its share of anti-Semties and then some. Republican party also has its racists don’t you think?

        • loupgarous

          Well, the issue is that the meme saying that Republicans have some sort of monopoly on racism was shattered by this very generous supporter of Democrat campaigns behaving in just the way that right-wingers are. Based on quotes I’ve read from Sterling, he’s no right-winger, regardless of what it says on his voter registration card.

    • loupgarous

      I stopped being a “dittohead” back in 1990 when it became clear that Rush Limbaugh was more concerned about getting people enraged than getting them informed. I broke my resolve on that when the Republican Congress was elected in 1994, and Limbaugh carried the news interspersed with “I Feel Good” by James Brown. It was just a good moment.

  • Jim Glennon

    Sterling deserves to be banned from the league for being a hypocrite as much as for his racist remarks but Bernie makes a point that several of us were talking about yesterday. Place a secret microphone in an NBA locker room. What will you hear from the players? How do they refer to women? How do they view the girls hanging outside the locker rooms? What about rappers who are ridiculously misogynistic, referring to women as bitches, ho’s, etc. No outrage from anyone.

    • Deborah G

      He doesn’t “deserve” to be anything of the sort. He has a free enterprise and he did not do anything illegal in the so called privacy of his home. That being said he is a moron but when people sell their wares[talent} if they expect more than a job and money they are ridiculous.Free markets will decide if enough people actually care or agree with him and his Franchise will suffer. That being said when a moron player calls whites ‘honkies” and worse and they call themselves the “”N” word? You just can’t have a reasonable expectation of anything more than the millions you sell yourself for. I am sick to death of making blacks the perrenial victims. If they hate the guy and his racism then break their contracts eat the money and leave. WHAT? No courage of your convictions? Then no synmpathy either.

      • Ron F

        When Donald Sterling became and NBA owner he agreed to the the association”s rules. He benefited from the monopoly that the NBA has and I do not recall him ever objecting to fines, etc. imposed on other owners. Apparently the suspension and fine were clearly within the commissioner’s powers. If on the other hand the association does not have the power to make him sell the team but, nevertheless tries to force him to do so, I hope he sues the association.

        • Deborah G

          The entire point here is that this was said and done in the privacy of his own home and NO laws were broken in fact he is constitutionally protected. The point is we SHOULD have the right to privacy in our own homes.

  • Stimpy

    Ixnay on the ethnic jokes, or any other politically incorrect speech.

  • lark2

    As we all know, it is easy for society’s “wordsmiths” to turn phrases to justify anything. No one can support Mr. Sterling’s PRIVATELY expressed views… however, it seems his PUBLIC actions cannot be faulted. He has many 20 + year employees … many are minorities – women, Hispanic, and Black – and he apparently treats them well. He treats his Black basketball players very well and he compensates them very well. Evidently, he has girlfriends who are ethnic minorities and he treats them very well. He had a PRIVATE conversation in which he expressed some reprehensible personal views on Race … he is an 80 yr old very eccentric man who MAY suffer from Dementia. The law in California is that if a conversation is to be recorded, both parties to the conversation need to approve. There is no evidence Mr. Sterling approved. I would guess that many of us have expressed PRIVATE views we may not be proud of. We still live in America, it is very dangerous to allow the privacy of one man to be invaded in this manner because any of us could be next. It is a VERY slippery slope. We should not engage in this activity just because RACISM is today’s sacred cow. Perhaps, he is being “set up” in a high stakes effort to “take” his team? Could we hear recordings of Magic Johnson’s PRIVATE conversations? This is very creepy!

    • Deborah G

      We have become a nation where there is NO reasonable expectation of privacy in your own home or not. SIlence the critics and ruin those who disagree with you. WHat if all your interactions with blacks was negative? What if you had been riobbed, beaten, or disrespected? How can you expect that person to like blacks? WHat if you had nothing but negative interactions with white people? Would you expect someone to like them? Listen racism is a very normal part of human existance. perhaps Mohammad ALI said it best. God make Black race, white race,yellow race and brown race for a reason. Stop trying to mix them all up and be proud of what God made you.He is NOT for interacial marraige. Not that I think its anyone’s business but it is his point of view.

  • jonshepp

    I’m glad Bernard is looking into an issue that seems to be morphing into an oxymoron.

    I thought hundreds of thousands of Americans had died in WWII to protect freedom of speech? The marketplace took care of this NBA owner’s bias, but too many reporters left and right used their computers as ropes, not unlike the old lynch mobs in the wild west of the 1800s. Except today we are supposed to be educated, tolerant, and sensitive. What a hoot.

    Let’s go back only a few months ago to the CEO who lost his job to another lynch mob, this one because the CEO wrote a check six years earlier to support marriage between a man and a woman. To see three (3) Massachusetts women getting married to each other in 2013 while another women said in a video in Australia that the goal of gay radicals was to destroy marriage, one can see there are always other agendas going on that the media doesn’t want to talk about because it doesn’t fit their PC narrative or the directive from their managing editors or the ASNE.

    I listened to the owner’s illegally recorded phone conversation, and realized when taking a moment to analyze it that he never used a cuss word nor called his minority girl friend any names. He obviously liked her! So his problem with blacks was not the skin color or the race. It seems maybe someone in the media might have taken a second to ask him, “What is your problem with black males?”

    Maybe we might have gotten an answer we didn’t expect or maybe could relate to from his past, remembering a candidate for president calling Caucasians via his white grandmother that helped raise him, “a typical white person.” Wow, that’s racist! Yet this crotch salute candidate as named by some in the military, got elected and was not banned from politics for life.

    This all reminds me of the black man who smashed a white man in the face he didn’t know and then ran away as the white man laid unconscious on the ground, the editor of the newspaper reporting the story saying it was an “emotional issue, ” not a hate crime, obviouasly worried about retribution.

    It is amazing how fast freedom of speech can be suppressed, as warned by the Jews who saw its ugly side, warning us how fast it happened to them in another free society. Looking at America today, that warning could be seen as almost an understatement.

  • Reggie Grant

    I look at this from the business standpoint. Sterling did not have respect for his business’ (LA Clippers) customer base or it’s partners – in the form of the managers and players. As such this was bound to happen at some point. It’s amazing that he got along for so long and did so well despite himself. He was in the wrong business! The NBA made a bold and correct business move. Let’s hope Sterling does not drag this out, and sells the team for a huge profit.

    • Deborah G

      Business is one thing but the franchise has to have it in their contract that they can do what they did otherwise it is simply a grandsatnding stunt and will most likely get them sued legitimately. The issue here isn’t really racism because most people found it offensive. The real issue is First amenedndment rights and the privacy of your own home. Free speech entitles us to say whatever we feel no matter how offensive it may be. Most adults know the proper way to behave is not to vocalize unpopular things like racism. You can’t legislate silence on your own private thinking and beliefs. it just can’t happen and you can’t stop a legal free business from operating unless there is a racism or morals clause in the contract at the beginning of the deal.

  • Jarob54

    Don’t be naive to think that racism is on its last legs. Had this tape never surfaced we would have never known how Donald Sterling felt. This is about damage control and money. The NBA is a business and they had to act swift and with severe punishment. But never believe that Donald Sterling is the only person to own a business that belives what he belives. He is not. What many people say in public is not what they believe in private. Evidence by this taped conversation.
    And Oh by the way, Donald Sterling may be many things, but dumb is not one. Expect legal proceedings to begin soon.

    • toddyo1935

      How about the welfare professionals who hate the taxpayers who feed them?

    • Deborah G

      here’s the answer WHO CARES what Don Sterling thinks? I don’t care what you think. It is none of my business and this is none of yours.

  • Buzzeroo

    Here’s an interesting thought: This Sterling slob had a legitimate expectation of privacy when he uttered his despicable remarks in his own home but has received the same punishment for doing so as if he had uttered them in a public forum….which was the maximum. Banned, fined and pilloried though he very well presently may be, he still has some powerful options that certainly were not taken into consideration by the people who lynched him–rightfully or otherwise. The fool just happens to be made of money so he can well afford to be as harmfully spiteful as he decides to be……Tomorrow morning, he could decide to bankrupt his team thereby ceasing payments to his millionaire players who would undoubtedly react violently and disrupt the entire NBA. Whatever the outcome would be, at the very least he would have thrown one hell of a monkey wrench into the works that would take enough time to sort out to screw up this season at the very least. He was illegally recorded saying vile things…but he committed no crime. There is no question that he could not continue unpunished as it were but he should have been given some face saving options instead of being treated as some poor shnook who wasn’t still holding some very powerful cards………..As for his ‘rat’, he will undoubtedly successfully sue her for the damage that she visited on him via her illegal taping….and also force criminal proceedings against her for doing so and she will rue the day that she stabbed him in the back without killing him. Any rich, powerful person capable of even thinking the miserable things that he said is rotten enough to exact all possible revenge against those who were too stupid to finesse the case against him……..and he will….just watch!

    • Deborah G

      LOL you are smart and correct.

  • Kernighan

    Wisdom indeed, from Kareem. I detest racism but the mob rule here and lawlessness in taping and radical departure from contract are a big problem.

  • ARJ127

    Donald Sterling didn’t get any “death sentence”. If he’s forced to see the team, he stands to make a handsome profit on the proceeds. Some death sentence that is! As for whether he should be turfed or not, let’s admit that the NBA is a sports enterprise that is largely dependent on sponsorships and public goodwill. I think that the NBA owners and others knew what Sterling was all about before this rant of his went viral. The plain fact is that it did go viral and therefore the NBA had to do something to keep its sponsors and fans. Given that about 75% of the NBA players are black, I can certainly understand their disgust in having such an unrepentant racist louse in the league. It looks like this bum got off lightly.

    • Bernie

      Congratulations, ARJ for entirely missing the main point of my column

      • ARJ127

        Bernie
        I took issue with your first statement. Your other points regarding bad behavior and the fact that America will no longer tolerate such overt racism had a lot of validity. Michael Vick, for instance, was jailed and then allowed to crawl back into the NFL. I hope that clarifies things a little.

    • Deborah G

      He is a louse but that shouldn’t preclude him from owning a legitimate business if he follows all the laws and pays what he demands, talent. After that the free markest5 need to decise if his racism warrants his business going bust or not.

      • ARJ127

        OK we can agree that he’s a louse. In fact, I think that’s kind of you to describe him as such. I can also agree that he has a right to own a business and that he hasn’t committed any criminal act (that we know of). However, the NBA as a brand is besmirched by his association with them. The NBA therefore is protecting its own brand by tossing him out. It’s a business decision pure and simple. The only reason this has come up now is because the rant went viral thereby damaging the NBA’s reputation.
        It’s the same as Major League Baseball banning Pete Rose for life. Rose didn’t break any laws. But his continued association with baseball brought MLB into some disrepute.

        • Deborah G

          I think he is an opportunist, a bigot and a racist but I defend his right to the privacy of his own home. IF the franchise NBA has it in their contract that racism is a cause for banning then fine he signed on the dotted line however I think any Corporate lawyer worth his salt could sue and win this one easily. First there has to be both parties agreeing to a taped conversation, second it is a restriction of free speech no matter how irresponsible and repulsive it may be, third IF we have no expectation of privacy in our own homes then we have sold out freedom in the name of political correctness. Fourth? I’d sue the pants off of miss whatever her name is. He’s a moron for associating with her a dumb woman like her spiteful and ridiculous HE traded companionship for money just like the players traded their talent for money. Both parties sold out something for it

          • ARJ127

            The legal opinions I’ve heard so far indicate that he has little to no hope of winning. As for the privacy argument, provided that one party to the conversation is aware of the recording device, it may not be an invasion of privacy. I’m not a lawyer so I won’t say that categorically. Anyway, it’s heartening to see that there is a broad consensus that Sterling’s comments are offensive and have no place in modern America (even with the 1st Amendment).

          • Deborah G

            And I have heard the opposite that unless there is a clause in the original contract they can’t do it. That being said I find the man repulsive but that doesn’t give you or I the decision to silence him especially for what he said at home. I would hate to think that if I had soemthing I wanted to express I;d have to think about it before I said it at home. Almost anything these days said about black people can be construed as racist no matter how factual it may be. IF for instance you said that the percentage of unwed teen mothers is higher in the black communiity BAM you are dead wrong racist in this environment. I’m sorry no matter how the conservastion offends me I would defend his right to say it in his own home. I just wouldn’t go there to socialize even if invited. Get the drift?

          • ARJ127

            Neither of us know what the franchise agreement says. If he’s in violation of the agreement, the NBA can strip him of that franchise. Being an owner in this context is not strictly analogous to being a business owner. Perhaps the best analogy would be that he’s the equivalent of a condominium owner. He “owns” his unit, subject of course to obeying the condo rules, paying his maintenance bills etc. That said, I have no sympathy for this guy and the law is unclear as to whether this was an invasion of privacy or not. If it is, he can try suing the “girlfriend” (I believe that Mrs. Sterling is launching her own lawsuit). Otherwise he should take the money from the proceeds of the sale (if he’s ordered to sell) and crawl under some rock where he belongs.

          • Deborah G

            No one is disagreeing with you that he is a really nasty guy but I abhor the breech of privacy used against someone from the privacy of their own home. Look my neighbors were the nicest great neighbors in the world then I found out when they moved 25 years later they were Nazi SYmpathizers. You’d never have known that. I’m sure what they said at home was interesting at best. The reality is they were good neighbors, kept their home beuatiful, helped in neighborhood matters. We’d have never guessed . Probably they were ok to us because we have an Irish last name who knows but It Never came up I guess.

          • POS

            This makes more sense than all the other things that have been written here. What happened to FREE Speech? I would rather have people say what they feel, that way I know whether I am dealing with someone that I would like.

  • mikecowan424

    If Sterling had been black and said no pictures of whites and don’t hang with whites, would anything have happened?

    • Deborah G

      Nothing and nothing should happen because of this other than moral outrage and free markets deciding if he wins or loses in business.

  • Jeff Metz

    Thanks for the comment FlaVet. I should have been more clear. http://www.thepoliticalspectator.org

  • gold7406

    I bet Sterling heard the tape before. I’m sure his mistress was trying extortion.
    He told her to go to…. She called TMZ.

    • POS

      I think this is closer to the truth than any one has mentioned. If he is such a racist why did he have a girlfriend that is half negro? I am sure that he could have found a white one that would have accepted his advances.

  • nickshaw

    You’ve never said anything that could be construed as politically incorrect, Bernie?
    Oh but, I’ll bet you have!
    You just don’t know it yet.
    The “true believers” just haven’t had time to parse everything you say.
    Or who you have donated to.
    Give them time.
    They don’t really need a reason.

    • rs724503

      I think Bernie was being facetious.

      • Bernie

        Thank you!

    • Bernie

      nickshaw … re read the column. i’m guessing you, like ARJ, completely missed the point that so many others have gotten.

      • nickshaw

        Sorry, Bernie, I didn’t realize it was tongue in cheek!
        On the other hand, nor would a true believer! ;-)

        • rs724503

          Don’t worry or be embarrassed I too have on several occasions misconstrued sarcasm and farce. It happens. It’s much easier when it is video so that speech is matched to words.

          • nickshaw

            It just bothers me that my sarc-dar wasn’t as well tuned today.
            It’s usually pretty good. ;-)

          • rs724503

            If this is your worst mistake of the hour, day, month, or life, you’re doing fine.

  • Jeff Metz

    No. I mean the word N*gg*r or as it is often used N*gga. Both are vile words that should not be used. The history and use of such language is beyond reproach. http://www.thepoliticalspectator.org

    • FlaVet

      Thank you. Because my reading is that Negro is still an accepted scientific and social construct for the purposes of racial classifications.

    • Deborah G

      The word oringinates from Nigerians. It is not used as a desciptive of where someone orginated from. However as a word it is in common usage for the blacks

  • Brad Gillespie

    This is sooo ridiculous — and I’m not jumping on the bandwagon here. I thought immediately that Sterling the old white man bigot was getting raped by pretty much the entire social media, including everyone anywhere who had a mouth. How do the very same folks express outrage at the NSA so called spying, and not even have a momentary blip in their certainty that Sterling should go to the public death chamber, over a private conversation? It’s certainly is a much greater threat to everyone’s privacy having someone record that which you certainly would never want publicly aired than any NSA recovery of some totally inconsequential text you made among billions of others. It’s just so much easier to express outrage, along with every other parrot, over something there is absolutely no downside too. I mean what’s the consequence of saying what everyone else is saying? Other than perhaps knowing that you are gutless because you are singing the same song, without ever thinking about any of the underlying meaning. Screw Sterling. The horrible thing here is the crazed public burning.

  • seriouslysickntired

    Bernie, once again you hit it out of the park!! If google can figure out what we are thinking, what is next. Time for the thought police to take us all away. Watch what you say AND think.

    • Bernie

      BINGO!

      • Deborah G

        The minsirty of fear will be next deciding if what we think, eat and say falls within the boundries of allowable behavior otherwise it is off to the gulags for you. I get it and I am sickened by it. I don’t like what the blacks say about the whites or the Jews say about the blacks whatever the reason I would fight for their right to say and feel however they please…I may just avoid both and decide they are racist morons but as long as they aren’t committing genocide? Let’s be honest its hard to be a victim at 30 Million a year isn’t it?

  • Jeff Metz

    Great piece Bernie. Our nation needs a national debate on race. We have come light years from where we were. I recently wrote a piece on the use of the “N” word by African American’s in our culture as well. That must stop. Its a vile word that should never be uttered. http://www.thepoliticalspectator.org

    • FlaVet

      Do you mean the “N” word as in Negro? Is that banned now too?

  • Jenn

    I don’t care what Donald Sterling said…the fact is that racism has been around forever…a private conversation is a private conversation..it should have never been made public…I guess the thought police will be out next considering nobody really cares for obummacare…so if you even look disgusted you will be put called racist because people will right away think of you as racist even though what you really don’t agree with are his ridiculous policies….

    • Deborah G

      I havethis reoccuring dream of millions of people all in the same garb, expressionaless robotic walking to work in lock step. I also fear for America’s freedom

  • Seattle Sam

    Does anyone really believe that the character of Donald Sterling was previously unknown to the NBA and its owners? The NBA is having a Captain Renault moment here.

    • JanelleHumbert

      Agreed! Sterling has been a scorpion for decades with behavior far worse than one private remark about no photos with black men. The NBA and rest of the whiny crowd blubbering about this deserve a switching and time out.

  • Marge Illich

    And where was my post? I posted 1/2 hour ago….too politically incorrect for you?

  • sniper2535

    The NBA is lame and full of thugs anyway. Misery loves company- they all belong together.

  • Charles

    Uh, wait a minute. Can anyone tell me how Donald Sterling’s ignorant, grotesque and hateful comments compare to the true and accurate “47%” comment by Mitt Romney in a earnest and honest private speech?

    We actually do know that the Romney comments were surreptitiously and probably illegally recorded. Such that Mother Jones will not vouch for the provenance of the recording.

    At the same time, I believe that there is some indication that Sterling had a self-recording system a la the Kennedy-Johnson-Nixon oval office recording system. Sterling had the system installed because he wanted proof of certain conversations in his life of unending litigation.

  • savage24

    This whole dust up has less to do with racism or bigotry then it has to do with political correctness. Political correctness seems to have taken over every aspect of our lives, evey act or word is scrutinize for anything that can be used against whomever did or said it. And Heaven forbid, we do not want certain people’s feeling hurt or to offend them. As I said before, the country has moved on, but stipidity is still here.

  • Paul Rush

    Bernie, I see litigation in the future in regards to Mr. Sterling’s comments. He will assert his first amendment rights and seek redress through the Federal Courts. His basis of his litigation in the Federal Courts will be that his ability to earn a living has been compromised and there have been “public figures” who have said more inflammatory statements than himself and that he has the right to say however contrary to public opinion. In the end the NBA will back down in his “banned for life” sentence and negotiate a less harsher punishment.

  • docneaves

    Oh, it’s alive and well, alright. It just changed colors.

  • Jimmy Boy

    The players are going to regret their actions and should have let the free market decide how to deal with Mr.Sterling. I don’t think any sponsers or free agents would ever sign a deal with the Clippers in light of his comments not to mention that attendence would fall off a cliff.
    The commissioner and the players have now set the standard. Now the league is going to have to deal heavy handed to any racist, homophobic, or sexist comments one of its players or coaches make in the future. In fairness, I hope they are as unyielding as the have been with Mr. Sterling.
    Be careful for what you wish for!

  • Mentor Chouhy

    Justified or not Mr Sterling has been lynched

  • Ryan Nichols

    All my life I’ve been told we have free speech. Apparently that is not the case.

    • Chuck

      The government can’t restrict your speech, absent circumstances like national security. Making false statements to law enforcement or lying under oath is a crime. Spreading false information about someone or something can lead to lawsuits for defamation.

      And, a company can restrict what you say about what goes on within the workplace by policy or employment agreement.

      A librarian will kick you out for talking too much in the library.

      Let’s face it, any time you tell your children to stop talking is depriving them of free speech. Do you really want to live in a world where your children blabber about personal things, because to tell them to be quiet is considered depravation of their right to free speech?

      The government can’t punish you for making racist comments, but your employer can fire you. Your church can remove you from its membership roles. Your spouse can divorce you. Your friends can quit inviting you to parties and helping out, when you’re moving.

      So no, free speech in this country is far from absolute.

      • Ryan Nichols

        Lol. Telling children to stop talking is depriving them of free speech? Ok

        That’s a lot different than being fined a couple million dollars for a private conversation. And everyone being up in arms acting as if his words actually hurt someone.

    • Jenn

      there is no more free speech…not will Satan in the White House..

  • 633

    Sterling’s girlfriend isn’t going to walk home unscathed I suspect-knowing him. Under state law he can sue for triple damages for the secret taping results-and he will have some big documented damages-sponsor boycotts and forced franchise sale. He also has a litigious history, a lot of money, and numerous lawyers. Her assets are likely mostly derived from her prior relationship wih him-but they are significant according to his wife’s current litigation seeking recovery. I doubt the mistress thought that through before creating this imbroglio, but I believe she will now.

    • toddyo1935

      Just wait and see who is going to buy the Clippers and you’ll get an idea of who enticed this little fornicator to turn on her sugar daddy.
      Nothin’ new here.

      • 633

        Do you believe in Magic?

    • FlaVet

      Hopefully she can get back to $100 pickups on an LA street corner.

  • Brian Bradford

    Donald Sterling has the ability to discriminate against people. He has the ability to prevent people from renting in a neighborhood that would give their children access to better schools. There are hellish neighborhoods in LA and Chicago simply because of housing discrimination. People are being killed because idiots like Donald Sterling use housing discrimination to create ghettos. The average American citizen can not use his or her ignorance to have that type of impact on society. Athletes – and journalists – who beat their girlfriends or drive drunk and kill people are criminals who should be punished in a court of law (see former Cowboy Brent Jones or Raven Ray Rice). Freedom of Speech simply means you can say what you want without being jailed. He said what he wanted, Cliven Bundy said what he wanted. Neither is in jail. Sarah Palin spouts off ignorant garbage every time she opens her mouth but she is not jailed for her stupidity. Her ignorance prevented a man from getting to the White House. Don’t you love Free Speech. Some times we just need to give dumb people the rope they need.

    • dumbtodumber

      Have you had an intelligent though? Sterling’s statements had nothing to do with housing or in your world do you just convict someone of all crimes for some very outrageous statements. If you think Palin is ignorant just read your post.

  • toddyo1935

    And now to apply the same tactics to pathetic liars from Obama to Clinton and on down the chain of deceit to the Muslim Brotherhood.

  • Joh

    There are a lot of people walking around today who have said things in private and had it made pulic; Mel Gibson comes to mind, He has paid the price tenfold and yet we still have Jesse Jackson, John Kerry and countless others who spoke “out of church” and gotten off Scot free.

  • beniyyar

    Talk about kangaroo courts, and personal liberty and privacy being trampled into the dust. Sterling has been drawn, quartered, and hanged, without any chance to either defend himself or bring into serious question how his privacy was violated. So he may be a racist, how does this justify the way he has been treated by the media, the NBA, and the public?

    • Chuck

      Reread Tarkanian vs. NCAA. According to the Supreme Court, a sports league doesn’t have to offer the same rights that the government does.

      It was never proven that Shoeless Joe Jackson colluded to throw the World Series as a member of the “Black Sox”, but he was given a lifetime ban from Major League Baseball.

      Yes, Sterling’s privacy was violated under California law. But, that is irrelevant for private matters, and his ownership of the Clippers is a private matter.

      If anything, this should be a warning to anyone to pick and choose carefully the people who associates with. Clearly, Sterling’s girlfriend (her real name is Vanessa Perez) is a gold digger who was willing to fight dirty, when sued by Sterling’s wife for recovery of community property.

  • gold7406

    Mark Cuban’s comment was very telling. How many of the owners have had private discussions with their managers and coaches about a particular player?
    Their criminal past, their sexual proclivity, their over the top behavior, multiple women, multiple kids,drugs, partying,drinking,speeding and the people they have as friends. Virtually, every NBA team owner has said many things in private,that if made public would be in a mess too.

  • ted

    You and O’Reilly have fallen down the Progressive tunnel. Outrage for power. Did the pathetic rants of an old jealous man really “hurt” anyone? No, of course not. No matter what the paid psychologists demand, “words can never harm you” was a mantra of most people when I was growing up. Today, however words and the people uttering them become tools for the Progressive Left to wield over the common people, and I don’t mean Sterling, he’s the tool. What none of you understand that this is just the start of the real power of the Progressives. They can ruin the billion dollar investment and ban the free movement of a citizen for expressing a word or two in anger. They can extort ten billion dollars from innocent citizens who own stock in some banks. There will be no stopping them. And you and O’Reilly just fall for it, expressing your faux hurt and anger. Get real. You are suckers like the rest of America. Next up: hate crimes applied to words; then informants getting paid — as they are now for squealing on the companies for which they work, and the companies held “guilty” without a trial — for ratting out citizens for using words unacceptable to the elitist running our lives.

  • jazzdrums

    dont know what the future holds..nba acted swiftly and it should be over for the players. i will bet however it is not over on Sperlings side and that is why he is being quiet right now…we see the x gal pal wearing a splatter protector over her face when getting into a car yesterday…why is that??

    • legal eagle

      Didn’t want her photo taken?

      • jazzdrums

        it was rhetoric…we know she did not want to show her face

  • Seattle Sam

    As late as 1826 the Church used to execute those who expressed heretical thoughts like Deism. I think we’re supposed to laud the NBA for being so tolerant as to take only Mr. Sterling’s livelihood, not his life.

    • legal eagle

      Taking Mr. Sterling’s livelihood? a bit of an exaggeration don’t you think?

  • steve b

    I am not a basketball fan and never heard of Donald Sterling until this “racist” incident. However, several questions come to mind:

    1. Most (all?) of the players on his team are black men, paid millions of dollars annually to bounce a ball and put it in a hoop. Wish some racist would treat me, a white Jewish man the same way!

    2. Speaking of which, if you want to see racism, follow me into any black neighborhood, where I will be accosted with questions and threats, such as, “What are you doing here?’, or “Why don’t you go back where you belong, white boy?”

    3. Donald’s long-time affair is with a black or part-black woman. Is this the action of a racist?

    4. Where is the zeal to have his girl friend prosecuted for recording their conversations without his approval? This is a felony in California, where this occurred.

    5. Where are the stories of our at least equally racist president, who has invited the supreme black racist, Al Sharpton, to the White House, as well as addressing Sharpton’s group a short time ago.

    6. And what about our racist Attorney General. Eric Holder, who refused to follow up on the almost-settled conviction of the Black Panthers in Philadelphia for voter intimidation when he first came into office, resulting in the charges being dropped.

    7. What about that about that other racist, Jesse Jackson, who was relieved when he was walking in “Hymietown” to find out that the footsteps behind him were not those of a black man.

    8. Finally, where are the racism stories about Sharpton, Jackson, black football and basketball players and most other blacks who use the term “nigger” more in one day than Bull Connor did in his lifetime. Will these NBA players be banned for life for using that word?

    Instead, we see articles about a “racist” 80-year-old team owner, the one who bought a decrepit team for about $12m, paid millions to black players, and made it into an NBA powerhouse worth a half billion dollars or more.

    By the way, you’ve got idiots like Bryant Gumbal (hired by white people!) claiming that racism is part of being a Republican, but Bull Connor, the KKK, and every recent mass murderer were Democrats! Why don’t we see stories about that in the media?

    • Mentor Chouhy

      Steve B. Great comment!!! You expressed what me and many more are thinking.

    • Tailor

      This is beautifully put – thank you. BUT, we will never hear these points on even Fox News of which I am an avid listener. I agree with you on every point. I am a white woman of 73 and I grew up in the south. Needless to say, there are some great black people in our society who are well respected for what they have accomplished – I feel the failing of some blacks is that they have not taken advantage of the opportunities afforded. AND where were Jesse and Al last weekend when 9 black people were murdered on the south side of Chicago. Neither seems to feel they never have to make a comment or go there to help this situation. They always pick the black/white opportunities to show up.

      I do hope Sterling has “cut this woman” off.

      • steve b

        FORGET CUTTING HER OFF – HE SHOULD BE SUING HER FOR WHAT SHE DID AS WELL AS PRESSING FELONY CHARGES AGAINST HER.

        • DelphisFinn

          Oh man, your caps lock has been stuck on for a long time. No wonder you’re angry.

          • steve b

            drop dead you lousy piece of crap. i hope you suffer every day of your miserable life!

            SEE, THAT IS WHAT ANGRY SOUNDS LIKE – WITH NO CAPS.

          • DelphisFinn

            I dunno, that sounded more sullen then angry. Maybe you should stick with the caps, it helps really get your angry message across.

    • toddyo1935

      Was Planned Parenthood founder, Margaret Sanger a Republican? She was the ultimate racist:

      “We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to
      exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can
      straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious
      members.”
      Margaret Sanger’s December 19, 1939 letter to Dr. Clarence Gamble, 255 Adams Street, Milton, Massachusetts. Hitler loved her too.

      • FlaVet

        Josef Mengele got his ideas from Sanger, I think.

    • legal eagle

      “Speaking of which, if you want to see racism, follow me into any black neighborhood, where I will be accosted with questions and threats, such as, “What are you doing here?’, or “Why don’t you go back where you belong, white boy?”

      You walk around the ghetto often?….LOL

      • steve b

        GREW UP RIGHT NEXT TO NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE YOU WOULD HEAR THOSE COMMENTS AND MORE. I WOULD NOT VISIT THOSE AREAS TODAY, INCLUDING THE ONE I GREW UP IN, DURING THE DAY WITH AN ARMED GUARD. JESSE JACKSON AND AL SHARPTON WOULD NOT GO TO THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS ON THEIR OWN.

        • legal eagle

          How long ago did you “grow up” in those neighborhoods?

          • steve b

            DON’T SEE WHAT DIFFERENCE THAT MAKES, BUT IT WAS IN THE 1950S TO 1960S. I AM WILLING TO BET THEY HAVE NOT GOTTEN ANY BETTER.

          • legal eagle

            I’m amazed that you don’t see what difference 50 years makes…..perhaps you should go pay a visit to the old neighborhood?….LOL

          • steve b

            100,000 SPERM CELLS…AND YOU WERE THE FASTEST?????

          • Bob Sten

            legal eagle is a typical sheltered, effeminate white liberal most likely steve. Ignore him. He’s never been to a bad neighborhood at night, never been mugged, never had a family member victimized by a criminal.

            He thinks that all nonwhites are “vicims” and that che guevara, marx, and mao were “heros of the working man”….bla bla bla.

            He probably grew up in an upper class neighborhood, and indoctrinated by left wing loon professors at some expensive college his left wing parents sent him to.

            The guy doesn’t get around much. He certainly hasn’t stayed in the hood or the barrio for more than an instant. He is clueless and simple minded, unfazed by what is out there in the real world.

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Don’t understand why you’re arguing with this guy, legal. Isn’t he saying exactly what you always do?

          • Bob Sten

            legal eagle, you effeminate little left wing loon. You think steve is wrong? I lived in long beach, ca for almost 7 years you naive douche. Steve speaks the truth, but in your stupid little sheltered world, you cannot see reality. You must not get out much.

            If you are white, I will pay you $500 if you walk down the street of my choosing at night in long beach. Deal?

            After that, then you can tell me that steve is “wrong”.

            Where do all of you stupid, naive left wingers come from? You are so inexperienced and sheltered from real truth, it’s not even funny.

  • http://blog.cyberquill.com/ Cyberquill

    It is best to always assume the walls are miked. This is, after all, the United States.

    • Mentor Chouhy

      The Soviet Union you meant

      • FlaVet

        The “Soviet Union” only exists in memories.

        • Mentor Chouhy

          Please do tell that to Mr. Putin

  • Leo

    The Freedom of Speech is Dead in America. Unless your a Liberal Democrat calling Americans ,Domestic Terrorist.Then it;’s OK. Or unless your a AG of the United States and promote Racism for a Living. Only upholding the Laws in which he feels strongly about. Yup. They have dismantled our civil liberties and call themselves tolerant. Hypocrisy at it’s best!

  • dporteraustin

    Yeah what’s next? A gay person losing their job for being gay in private? Or a business refusing to serve a gay person?

    • docneaves

      A bakery has already been shut down for refusing to make a gay wedding cake.

    • FlaVet

      If it was private, why would one lose their job then? Who would know? I feel everyones sexual preferences should be private and not paraded in your face.

      • dporteraustin

        right, like racism, it should be kept private.

    • toddyo1935

      How about a Mozilla President being run out because he believed in natural law and donated to a cause to defend it?

      • dporteraustin

        exactly, everyone is free to express their views but also suffer the consequences when society deems those views to be bad. The tyranny of the majority works.

        • rs724503

          Sterling’s rights in this case are quite limited. He signed a mountain of paperwork with thousands of clauses including so-called morality clauses when he bought the Clippers. The NBA is an enterprise built on good will and if an owner does something to threaten that goodwill the NBA has the power, according to its by laws, to take action and they did.

          He wasn’t forced to own the team but he must play by the rules if he wants to own the team.

          It’s that simple. While Bernie is right in his general point that we’ve now stepped into a whole new sphere of lack of privacy and standards, the NBA did the only thing it could which was to remove a cancer which was destroying the league following the release of his comments.

  • jackietreehorn3

    In the last few months we’ve had a Mozilla CEO lose his job for donating 2K dollars and opposing gay marriage, and Mr. Sterling burned at the stake for a private conversation made public. And in both instances the majority of Americans blindly applauded the sentence these men received. I guess it doesn’t matter who or what happens as long as it fits the narrative of your cause. Be careful folks, if we go a little further down this path I don’t think your going to like what you see.

  • Kathie Ampela

    Half the people in this country would be unemployed if they were fired based on private conservations, maybe more. Have you ever worked in an office before? EVERYBODY talks about EVERYBODY, and not in the nicest terms. Mark Cuban got it right in my opinion, but he later ran away from what he said. And let’s not forget about what John “Israel Apartheid” Kerry said in private the other day…Juan Williams confirmed on television that’s what people say about Israel in private all the time…should Kerry lose his job? Two wrongs don’t make a right…but it’s worth pointing out.

  • DoubleStandard

    The NBA has determined that it has a zero tolerance policy for racist comments. The NBA is primarily broadcast on TNT. Charles Barkley is a commentator on TNT. Charles Barkley has publicly admitted that he uses the “N” word in his private life. The “N” word is a racist comment. So…shouldn’t the NBA commissioner be demanding that Charles Barkley be fired or TNT will no longer be permitted to broadcast NBA games?

    • dirsppro

      What about the famous statement made in Salt Lake City when Charles Barkley said these exact words: That’s why I hate white people! What about that?

  • buckrodgers

    I want to see whats going to happen to LeBron James, if he is taped saying something he regrets later, will the league ban him for life or will they be forced to make excuses for his behavior, or what about Tom Hanks,Bill Mahr,Steven Colbert, should they be banned from Commedy Central or CBS because they said something that I find offensive, America gets it,racism is wrong, does it exist yes it does, will it always exist probably, but taking somebody’s property because you don’t like what he has to say is just plain wrong and it is spouted by every race,sex or national origin in America every single day and what happened to Donald Sterling can happen to anybody, Mark Cuban had it right Americans are allowed to say something stupid, that’s called free speech and Americans who are offended have the option of ignoring him,refusing to do business at the place he own or works at or even respond in kind, but they don’t have the right to put their hands on him or take away their property,because of what he has to say, the NBA is giving themselves high fives, while the media cheers on NBA Commisionrs Jay Silver for taking a stand, but that’s today, because I can guarantee you that a player owner or coach will be taped insulting somebody they might like tomorrow and the NBA will either give them the same punishment they just gave to Donald Sterling or find themselves being labeled a bunch of racist or face lawsuits that will put them out of business.

    • Stimpy

      Please use a period now and again. I ran out of breath reading that run on sentence.

  • Mike

    The U.S. is fiddling while the world is burning…

  • Sparky

    Can anyone explain to me why this is different from Hollywood blacklisting Communists?

    • Seattle Sam

      Communists actually posed a security threat to the country. Not sure Mr. Sterling does.

      • rs724503

        communists maybe, but none of the so-called communists in Hollywood posed a threat to anyone. Read the Wikipedia page for Lee J Cobb, Johnny Friendly of On the Waterfront, and see how anyone in Hollywood suspected of being a communist was treated. Here’s the pertinent portion.

        “When the facilities of the government of the United States are drawn on an individual it can be terrifying. The blacklist is just the opening gambit—being deprived of work. Your passport is confiscated. That’s minor. But not being able to move without being tailed is something else. After a certain point it grows to implied as well as articulated threats, and people succumb. My wife did, and she was institutionalized.The HUAC did a deal with me. I was pretty much worn down. I had no money. I couldn’t borrow. I had the expenses of taking care of the
        children. Why am I subjecting my loved ones to this? If it’s worth dying for, and I am just as idealistic as the next fellow. But I decided it wasn’t worth dying for, and if this gesture was the way of getting out of the penitentiary I’d do it. I had to be employable again.”

        Now, please tell me how big a threat Lee J Cobb was to this country.

        • docneaves

          Well, let’s see. The communists, like him, took over. How big a threat do YOU think he, and the others, were?

          • rs724503

            I’m sorry, I’m still waiting for a coherent thought. Last I checked it was exactly his kind of speech that the founding fathers wanted to protect and yet we not only criminalized it, but tortured people into condemning it.

            Before the communists it was the anarchists. Four people were hung and killed simply for being anarchists in the 1800s. A governor named John Peter Altgeld had his political career destroyed because he dared to save four others from the gallows and proud Americans like Teddy Roosevelt called him a “one who would connive at wholesale murder,” who “condones and encourages
            the most infamous of murders,” and who “would substitute for the
            government of Washington and Lincoln a red welter of lawlessness and
            dishonesty as fantastic and vicious as the Paris Commune.”

            If you think that conservative speech is being squelched in an unamerican way today on college campuses then be consistent and condemn what was done to so-called communists in Hollywood and to anarchists.

            pretending as though any of this was all right because you don’t like the ideology they believed in is not only hypocritical but totally unamerican.

          • docneaves

            It is EXACTLY American. Communism has no place in this country. Being American doesn’t mean letting everyone do whatever they want. It means protecting individual freedom, and that includes the right to own property. These attacks were made because the “communists” (almost every one of them turned out to be, literally, card-carrying members of the CPUSA…go read “Blacklisted by History”) were trying to take over this country in order to do what they are doing right now. Anarchists? No, they were communists. Different stripe, maybe, but still communists. Anyone who resists the government risks being called the same, terrorists, anarchists. But you have to watch what they espouse, too, which is always a lack of ownership of property, a claim of being exploited by the rich man. Class warfare. All for power, the same as the Leftists of all classes, which includes the Fascists, and Socialists, and pretty much any government that espouses centralized control of everyday life. All should be outlawed somehow, because these governments are a pox on humanity.

          • rs724503

            There you go. I’m glad you’ve come out and said it. Free speech is only for speech which you agree with. Like I said, there was a time when it was anarchists who were viewed the way you now view communists and as a result four people were hung for a murder of which the only evidence against them was that they were anarchists.

            So, please again, tell me how in a country with free speech, thought, and ideas, there’s no place for communism.

            Tell me again, how if you believe in communism you should be jailed, viewed as an enemy of the state.

          • docneaves

            Because communism is the opposite of freedom. To take away freedom is slavery. You think everything is morally equal? No. Free speech, except you aren’t allowed to lie without consequences. You want to spread your ideas? Fine, but be forced to admit the truth. Communism’s first step is to hide the truth from everyone by retelling it in a compelling lie. Now, we can’t even argue your message because you own all the newspapers. Luckily, the internet, temporarily, allows us a place to speak. Yes, COMMUNISM, the abolishment of private property and individual freedom, the ownership by the state of the individual, should be banned. John Maynard Keynes should roast in whatever hell he went to for his crimes, along with Rothschild, Marx, and Engels.

  • Josh

    The NBA is free to do as they see fit, though it’s decidedly overboard. And I’m not saying that based on anything more than what the NBA is saying. According to Silver, the NBA is only judging Sterling’s comments, not his history. For those comments, he’s banned for life, has to pay the maximum fine, and will inevitably be voted out.

    Okay. Fine. But what constitutes such a hanging offense going forward?

    What if I’m an owner and an outspoken atheist. It’s no secret that the majority of players, coaches, GMs, owners, and fans in the NBA are Christians. And it’s no secret that many Christians are typically an easily offended people. (Anyone want to prove me right? lol) So, if I’m speaking at a skeptic conference or to one of my friends and say something that insults peoples’ religion, is that an offense on the same level?

    What would be considered on that level?

    I’m still all for Sterling being slapped around. Forget that old bigot; my heart doesn’t bleed. Though when it comes time for the owners to vote, I hope they make it damn clear what does and doesn’t cross that line and what can and cannot be said, in terms of subjects one may broach or…whatever. The precedent is now set that simply speaking words people don’t like to hear can cost you the NBA, no questions asked.

    Not his history, which was absolved by the NBA previous, and the NAACP, and damn near everyone associated with basketball. His comments. He said something people didn’t like to hear, and now he’s as good as gone.

    The NBA needs to be incredibly careful about this standard. Does Michael Jordan get the boot if he goes off on a “don’t bring white people to the game” tangent? MJ wouldn’t do that. He’s MJ! But I wonder…

    It seems the NBA is serving justice based on what the crowd wants. It’s in the same ballpark as a hanging by populous or the thumbs-down to a gladiator, in terms of reaction dictating justice.

  • Jonathan Bishop

    I just watched this on TV News. Spike Lee made a comment about this crap with the NBA team owner and his comments and his punishment.., He called the man a “Slave Master”,,,what in the hell does Spike Lee know about slave masters. He’s never been a slave nor has he ever met a slave master. I consider this a racist remark towards white people. Why don’t we ban and fine him for such a remark? Oh Yeah, because he’s black and we know there is no such thing as Black to White racism. And yet, the players on this racist’s basketball team are all still cashing their pay checks I see and playing basketball.

    • dporteraustin

      Sterling did sound a lot like a slave master “I support them and give them food, and clothes, and cars, and houses. Who gives it to them? Does someone else give it to them?” Sounds like a slave master to me.

      • rs724503

        maybe, though when you pay people millions of dollars, I’d say actions speak louder than words.

      • FlaVet

        Sounds pretty truthful to me and the fact is that the players willingly accept those huge salaries. How many of his team has he made millionaires of?

  • Kevin

    But what I don’t get is why the right-wing conservatives won’t condemn when someone makes anti-gay comments. Like comparing gay people to pedophiles or bestiality. For some reason that’s considered religious freedom and not hate speech. Conservatives get into trouble every time they say something racist (ex: Cliven Bundy, Sterling, Paula Deen) but when a conservative says homophobic things, that’s ok cause its his religious beliefs and people will come in his defense. U see the double standard. People don’t defend racism, antisemitism, mocking people with disabilities, but they don’t do it for gay people. And when gay people speak up after being offended, for some reason that makes them the bullies. We don’t tolerate racism in this country anymore, why can’t it be the same with homophobia. When Sterling got banned for life from the NBA, nobody complained. But when Phil Robertson got suspended from A&E, that’s persecution and gay people are the bullies for being offended by his anti-gay remarks.

    • Josh

      In terms of the NBA, they definitely come down hard (on lesser stars at least) on anti-gay comments. If memory serves, KG got slapped with a fine, and Roy Hibbert was suspended for saying “no h0mo” in a lighthearted meme context that definitely wasn’t meant to intentionally insult homosexuals. The NBA wasn’t hearing that. They answered the LGBT lobby immediately and slapped Hibbert around.

      Of course, there’s only so much a white commissioner can do in regards to punishing a black player. Too hard on Hibbert, and the focus would have went back to Stern, with folks saying he was a racist.

      Again, sticking with the NBA, “racism” pretty much owns the top spot as the biggest and most controversial issue. Every time dress codes were imposed, or the bargaining agreements were to be changed, or new policies instituted for officiating, etc, there were always folks citing racism. But they don’t play anti-gay either.

      In terms of religious people not giving gay slurs the same respect, it’s because it’s religion. Good luck changing that. And I’m not sure it’s only right-wing conservatives; I mean, keeping with the theme here, black Americans are amongst those most opposed to gay marriage, and happen to be amongst the most religious people around. And they’re certainly not right-wing conservatives by the overwhelming majority ticking the D on their voting cards.

      These issues have a lot of overlap, a lot of irony, and a lot of head-scratching fodder once forced out of a political us-vs.-them context.

      • Kevin

        Yeah I understand big corporations are the champions of equality in this country. It was thanks to corporations (like the NFL) that Arizona didn’t pass their ”anti gay” bill that would refuse service to gay people based on religious beliefs. Corporations have always had a no bigotry stand on everything (whether it’s racism, sexism, homophobia, religious discrimination, disability, etc). But I just find it very hypocrite when the conservative media will back away from racist incidents like Bundy, but will embrace homophobic remarks and go on and on of how evil the gay lobby is by making the incident a free speech issue (when isn’t). If Phil Robertson compared black people to monkeys and terrorists, I can assure you, Duck Dynasty would of been over because nobody would tolerate that (not even conservatives). And I find it funny how Sarah Palin will condemn anyone who uses the word retarded or who says something politically incorrect about down syndrome (cause of her child), but when people make homophobic comments, all of a sudden that’s their freedom of speech. And if the gay community gets offended by it and speak up, then that’s their fault and they’re the ones being the persecutors. Racism, antisemitism, and mocking people with disability ended cause we no longer tolerate these behaviors. However, homophobia will continue as long as people keep defending anti gay comments made in public by saying its their religious beliefs. Corporations, the liberal media, Hollywood celebrities, and gay activists has helped reduced gay bashing, but its still very present.

    • Tim Thompson

      Uh, since when is either Sterling or Paula Deen a ‘conservative’?

      • Kevin

        Oops, I meant to say public figures. Alec Baldwin & Tracy Morgan are not conservatives but they got into trouble for saying anti-gay remarks.

        • Porkbevr

          Kevin – No, I suspect you meant to say conservative. You just got called on it.

    • FlaVet

      I think most of Christianity abhors sodomy. And it’s forbidden in it’s teachings.

    • toddyo1935

      If I were king, one who uses the terms homophobic and sexist would be subject to a public caning.

  • Seattle Sam

    When DeAndre Liggins beat his girl friend with an X-Box in front of his son he was banned for life from basketball. Wasn’t he?

    After Snoop Dogg called Don Sterling a “bitch-ass redneck, white bread, chicken s**t mother f***er” he was banned from attending all future NBA games. Right?

  • Chris Matthewson

    In his column just prior to this one, Bernie said: “Everybody has come out against Sterling. Has any one publicly stated that despite his comments, he should not be suspended? Has anyone argued that he should be allowed to continue owning the Clippers? No one has said anything like that.”

    Now, isn’t that exactly what Bernie is now implying, just a day after writing the above?

    • Brian

      Go to forbes and read why they can’t make him sell his team.

  • Chantal

    The hatred found in Sterling’s comments is disgusting. The hatred now being cascaded upon Sterling himself is equally disgusting. If I’m not mistaken, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. once commented on how little efficacy there is in fighting hatred with hatred. Although I am paraphrasing, I believe he made a comparison between hatred and darkness, suggesting that hatred cannot eliminate hatred any more than darkness can remove darkness, but rather, that only by shining the light of love can the darkness of hatred be vanquished. By turning Sterling into an unredeemable, unforgivable outcast with the brand of’RACIST’ on his head for the rest of his life, our society has exacerbated the racial tension that had already come to light. Without a doubt, Sterling created the initial discomfort, and for perpetuating the inexcuasable tension between people of different skin colors, he probably deserves a lot of the grief he’s getting. But in the wake of the conflict, society responded with hatred, and our nation feels a little more unsafe in terms of the mistakes we are allowed to make. Charges of racism are the new McCarthyism, being a perfectly legitimate charge, which, when overblown, can send a person’s life into blacklist and ruin, lightyears away from any glimmer of redemption. Again, there is no doubt that Sterling is a clear case of racism, but the public’s zeal to condemn him as a human being (rather than simply condemn his offensive views) is a frightening clue toward the possible future of our country.

    • smorkingapple

      You felt same way about Sharpton? Or Aw-Awlaki? Or Farrakhan? Or Jesse Jackson?

      Let’s put cards on table here.

      • Chantal

        I’m not positive I understand what the question is, only if you are asking, Do Sharpton/Jesse Jackson, etc. deserve absolute hatred and banishment for their views, my answer is definitely No. I have no problem with condemning harmful views, but taking such people and trying to blacklist them as human beings is unacceptable. To Sterling, Farrakhan, to anyone. Anyone whose life were caught on camera would have a lot to answer for. My hope is that problems would be fought with solutions and morality, not with more problems.

  • Ed

    This just goes to our human need to banish people we think have done society wrong. The problem today is that banishment is for relatively innocuous stuff. Ironically the man actively discriminated in housing but nary a peep. He doesn’t want his mistress going to the game with Magic, a renown womanizer, he must go.

    The players cheering this are going to quickly find out how stupid calling for this guys banishment. Most lack self discipline and will now be taped, goaded into doing something silly. They’ll either pay big bucks to keep it out of the media or will also be purged and they won’t have billions in real estate to fall back on.

    • smorkingapple

      LOL yeah, it was just because he thought Magic would bed his sidepiece.

      You guys are amazing

      • Jivin Cliven

        Side piece? That fat slob couldn’t handle any piece until he finds little Donald under all that fat

  • Tim Ned

    I guess it’s about casting stones. In reflection I’m dropping mine. Anyone else?

  • Brian Fr Langley

    That Mr. Sterling should be the victim of significant community Opprobrium is entirely appropriate. That he should be torn asunder by a ravaging mob, is unconscionable. Should I really have to lose my livelihood, over what I think in my mind, and say in the privacy of my own home? Do I have only to think nice things about people, and never say out loud (to another living soul), that I don’t always feel that way. Racism should primarily be about behavior. My mother taught me that despite my dislike for some people, I always had to treat them graciously. I could think what I like, but would have to be polite and gracious anyway. My mom would have given Mr. Sterling a (very) strong lecture, but I doubt she would have beat him senseless.

  • sjangers

    It’s probably an essential part of putting an ugly period of American history behind us, but there is a feeling that Donald Sterling’s punishment for some ignorant remarks, and his history of anti-social attitude and behaviors, is perhaps disproportionate to the offense; at least compared to how others whose behavior is less-than-admirable are treated. Again, this is probably a necessary example that may help further set our history of culturally-ingrained racism behind us, but there are many people in our society who commit similarly despicable acts who seem to suffer little or nothing in the way of public opprobrium. I don’t want to see anyone permanently deprived of their livelihood and social outlets because of unacceptable social behaviors, but I do think society would benefit if more people were willing to make it clear that some behaviors are harmful and wrong, no matter the circumstances or the identity of the offender.