Martin Luther King Knew the Difference Between Nooses and Handcuffs

MLKThere was plenty of soaring rhetoric at the 50th anniversary celebration of Martin Luther King’s historic “I Have a Dream” speech.  President Obama spoke eloquently.  Whatever else one may say about him, he can deliver a speech.  Congressman John Lewis, who was beaten and almost killed by racist police in Selma, told us that “We may have all come on different ships, but we’re in the same boat now.”

There was lots of talk about the progress that has been made over the years.  And lots of talk about how the dream is still unrealized, how the struggle must continue.   They talked a lot, too, about the great “wealth gap” between blacks and whites today.  President Obama said, “The gap in wealth between races hasn’t lessened, it’s grown.”  But neither he nor the other speakers talked about why, in Jesse Jackson’s words, “We’re freer [today] but less equal.”

It was a day to celebrate the turning point in the civil rights movement.  So maybe we shouldn’t be surprised that the speakers stayed clear of some of the harsh realities that help explain why African-Americans are freer today but less equal.

No one mentioned that 50 years after Dr. King told us about his dream, black children are being abandoned by their fathers in numbers never seen in history.  When Dr. King spoke, about 25 percent of black babies were born to single mothers.  Today, it’s  72 percent.

And no one talked about what just may be the single most important explanation for poverty in America.  A while back, William Galston, an advisor to President Bill Clinton, took a hard look at why some people are poor, and he came up with what appears to be a simple solution to avoid a life of poverty.  Just do three things, he said:  finish high school, marry before having a baby, and marry after the age of 20.  Only 8 percent of families who do this are poor while 79 percent who don’t do these things are poor.

In America’s biggest cities too many black kids drop out of high school.  And we’ve all heard stories about good black kids who take school seriously finding themselves the targets of ridicule because they’re “acting white,” in the depressing term used by other black kids who have no use for education.

Most black kids aren’t criminals, of course.  Most are good, decent people just trying to get by, like everybody else.  But young black men commit a disproportionate amount of crime and often wind up behind bars.  A young man with little education and a prison record isn’t likely to get a good job.  He’s another reason too many black people are less equal today; he’s another contributing factor that explains the wealth gap between the races.

If many of the speeches accentuated the positive, several others were downright disheartening.  Marc Morial, the president of the Urban League brought the Ku Klux Klan into the conversation. “Somewhere along the way,” he told the crowd, “white sheets were traded for button-down white shirts. Attack dogs and water hoses were traded for Tasers and widespread implementation of stop-and-frisk policies. Nooses were traded for handcuffs.”

Melanie Campbell, president of the National Coalition on Black Civic Participation, stayed with the KKK theme, telling the crowd: “There are no white sheets, but there are judges in black robes in the U.S. Supreme Court who struck down Section IV of the Voting Rights Act, opening the floodgates in many states to pass more voter I.D. laws to block people of color and young people from voting, with the goal of ensuring we never see another black man elected President — or woman — of the United States of America.”

Does Mr. Morial really believe that stop-and-frisk is doing more harm to black Americans than having babies out of wedlock?  Does Ms. Campbell think that judges in black robes are doing as much harm as bigots in white sheets?  Would Martin Luther King, if he were still with us, buy into this nonsense?

There were no black conservatives at the celebration to counter this kind of drivel – no Tim Scott, the only African-American in the U.S Senate; no Allen West, who recently served in the House; no Dr. Ben Carson; no Clarence Thomas.  The so-called progressive people who are constantly preaching to us about the importance of diversity, wanted no serious diversity of opinion.

But President Obama did get in a few words that made conservatives nod in agreement. “During the course of 50 years,” he said, “there were times when some of us, claiming to push for change, lost our way.  The anguish of assassinations set off self-defeating riots.  Legitimate grievances against police brutality tipped into excuse making for criminal behavior. … [It was] as if we had no agency in our own liberation, as if poverty was an excuse for not raising your child.”

For that, the president deserves credit.

It was a nice celebration on the National Mall.  It paid homage to one of the great speeches in American history; in my view the greatest speech of the 20th century.  If Martin Luther King were still with us today, he would have had a few words to say about the destruction of the black family; about men who have sex with 15 year old girls but have no interest in being fathers. He would have said something about crime in black America, a plague that has destroyed lives and communities.

And he would have said it with passion and grace and a soaring rhetoric that would leave us mesmerized.  Unlike some who masquerade as black leaders today, Martin Luther King knew the difference between men in white sheets and those in black robes.  He knew the difference between nooses and handcuffs.

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  • Pete Wilson

    What get me the most about a lot of these comments is that people always talking about how bad the black community is they are always looking at us as if we are so terrible but what about the white communities. We don;t hear to much about how bad it is because those who control the media and are in position of power and authority are white and it is they that want their own kind to think that black people are so terrible but let’s get real, there is a problem in the white community also. You call it street drugs in the AA community but in the white community is both legal and illegal drugs. We as a people don;t have assess to prescription drugs pads. Black drugs dealers might be millionaire thugs but white drug dealers both the legal and illegal are billionaire thugs and criminals. A white person get caught with a pound of cocaine gets less time then a black person with an ounce of crack so how is that being fair and equal. like as well as a lot of thinking black folks believe that this is a very hypocritical country. You are always talking about how black young ladies are getting knocked up at an early age but just as many white kids get knocked up as blacks only thing is we do the lesser of two evils. Sure they might have to get on welfare to support the kid but that is a far less evil then killing a child through abortion and speaking of which it is white law makers (since there are so many of them that sign off bills making it legal to KILL a child in the womb. You cry and whine about black people being on welfare as if there are absolutely NO WHITE PEOPLE on welfare are government assistance. Some of you white people get on here and act like we in the black community don;t know that we have problems but you act like you are perfect. Take the porn industry and nightly televsion programming. For decades you have bombarded us with fornication, adultery, same sex relationships all that is vile and evil in the eyes of God the you hyprocrites want to think that you are somehow better. Don’t little white precious girls get knocked up? Of course they do? Don;t white men sleep with and leave white women. Back when Yahoo had it chatrooms and even now when you go onto a social media site it is hardly possible to find any woman white or black that is married, they are mostly divorced or separated. Contrary to popular beliefs a separated person is still married to their spouse. You make is seem like black women have no honor. But I can speak for two I know of one is my daughter and the other is the lady that lives next door to me. The lady next door don’t have men knocking on her door all doing the day and she is not on welfare. She goes to work at 6:30 AM five days a week. She is one descent woman. Yes she is a single mother but not because she had bastards out of wedlock but due to marriage. Do white people consider when they make claims about all the single parent homes, no they do not, they just assume that since she is black she must have had children out of wedlock. If you do an honest unbias report you will find that the divorce rate among white Americans is just as high as it is among blacks, if not higher.

    We don’t have political power to make rules and regulations that effect the nation like white people have. And before you start on the fact that we have a half white American President, I know this. But that just one out of what 44 and they other 43 have been white men. And it is these white men and the Senators and Representatives and other law makers that are ruining this country and we are just the effect of it. I could go on and on and on but it would be pointless to do so but SOME of you white people need to sweep around your own front door before you start talking about how terrible black people are. Since you have the better jobs and the businesses, control 98 per cent of the government and the media is is you that are the real cause of the problems in this country and though you can fool the people you can’t fool God whom an increasing more and more of you say don’t exist. You have forgotten HIM and HE is starting to forget you. That is why black people and other minorities are increasing in power and statue and you are decreasing but I know you don’t believe that. On all that money that so few control it is written in God we trust. Oh how great a lie that is. Your trust is in the mighty dollar. But you can’t take it with you when you die. And God have no use for it.

  • bobjr4freedom

    VERY GOOD WRITING BERNIE-Martin Luther King Jr would have known the difference and President Obama did a good job on that one point.Good for him.I just hope people heard that.

  • FloridaJim

    Race baiters abound in Democratic politics. without race democrats lose a huge portion of their base and would have to argue on facts…a losing argument for them. Keeping their foot on the throats of their base is their only hope. Why Thomas, Sowell, Williams, DR. Carson, and other blacks are not held up as examples to follow is only because the media and democrats have them by the throat. All the race baiters are multi-millionaires and the poor are still poor, not by world standards but by American standards.

    • AgentofACORN

      Race baiters abound in Republican politics. Without race, Republicans lose a huge portion of their base and would have to argue on facts…a losing argument for them. Keeping subservient to their base is their only hope. Thomas, Sowell, Williams, DR. Carson and other blacks are held up as examples to follow only because the conservative media and Republicans need tokens to show the world, “See, we like blacks.” All the race baiters are multi-millionaires and the poor are still poor, not by world standards but by American standards.

  • Roadmaster

    “Sore-ing” rhetoric is what we heard. Dhimmicrats have misappropriated MLK’s lofty ideals and noble goals and twisted them into nothing but rabble rousing hate speech, divisive demogoguery, lies, distortions and falsehoods to serve their own evil purposes, same as all tyrants/dictators do. They’ve managed to shift focus away from the mess they’ve caused and created a monster with which they attack their enemy, the USA and all it stands for.

    Dr. King’s dream was that the country do the “right” thing – Marxist/Socialist/Progressives strive to do the “left” thing, that is create a Utopia where they rule.

    Don’t look now, “monster,” but when they’re done using you, the chains will come out and things will be infinitely worse.

  • souvoter

    I’m a die-hard conservative but when I keep hearing Republicans talk about lowering tax rate for small business and corporations and broading the tax base; they should also champion raising the minimum wage so everyone benefits; only makes sense!!!

    • Seattle Sam

      Really? It make sense that raising the price of something won’t decrease the demand for it? Where did you learn that?

      • legal eagle

        It’s how much you raise prices compared to your competition….and it depends how much competition you have…

        • gold7406

          ever see TR – TC = P ?

          • legal eagle

            I have…what about competitive forces, costs of goods, etc….Formulas are fine…for academic purposes…life is a little more complicated…Agree?

    • legal eagle

      Anyone in business knows that effective tax rates are quite low at this time…The tax code for business is like swiss cheese…Lots of holes and loopholes…
      America has become a consumer society over the past 40 years..Unless you raise wages you have less consumers able to participate…

    • yousay

      You don’t sound much like a die-hard conservative. Real conservatives do not believe that the government should be in the business of telling companies how much to pay their workers. The market should set wages, not the government.

  • Bob Olden

    I have worked many years in the restaurant business and I have seen many black Americans with a great work ethic, a decent education, and wonderful caring personalities. Anyone who has these qualities seems to do pretty well in our society. There’s no “underclass” if you can do the job. Employers are looking for anybody like this.

    • legal eagle

      There is an “underclass” based upon economics not race or wonderful personalities…Since the election of Reagan the middle class in America has shrunk and the number of working poor has increased…

  • gold7406

    I heard that particular speech, from white robes to white collars…etc.

    So many blacks have “made it” and to use old rhetoric as an excuse for the others “not making it,” is incorrect and wrong.

    • legal eagle

      One person made one statement during a speech and that . to you, represents blacks making excuses?….Incredible

  • redrowan2000

    Is this an idiotic statement or not?

  • Jeff Webb

    Oh my goodness! Eddie wants kids to starve? How dare he?!

    Man, he should wait to say stuff like that until there are private, more efficient charities and assistance programs out there! Oh, wait a minute…

  • Drew Page

    Very few people want to say why a great number of blacks are freer, but less equal economically. It is because that a large majority of blacks are either born out of wedlock or have been abandoned by the men who impregnated their mothers. The Great Society programs of LBJ reward mothers who continue bearing children out of wedlock. That is rewarding absurd behavior and continues the cycle of ignorance and poverty. Certainly there are exceptions to this rule and many blacks have overcome their circumstances through education, talent and hard work. Unfortunately, this isn’t the case often enough,but nobody wants to talk about that. That would be putting the blame on a big block of voters. It’s far easier to blame whitey, corporations and slavery than to actually do something about it.
    So we have the black grievance industry promoting the idea of blacks as perpetual victims of a racist society. And how do liberals want to correct these problems? By making excuses for these “victims” and demanding billions of tax money be showered upon the victims. And once all the money has been spent and things remain the same, as has been the case since 1965, what then? More taxes I suppose. Keep rewarding failure and punishing success and guess what you will wind up with? You know, but you don’t have the guts to say it out loud.

    • fitzsimmons Photography

      Try reading The Democrats Missing History by Jeffrey Lord. Great stuff and very powerful info to conteract the left’s lies and the rewriting of history…..

  • http://1389blog.com/ 1389AD

    Colin Powell is no conservative and never was one. If you suppose that he is, then you have no idea what a conservative is.

    Information about vote fraud is all over the Internet. Do your own research.

    • Franklyn Douglas

      To be a conservative you don’t have to march lock step on every issue. I believe in small government, low taxes, and God for all. However I also don’t believe in mans inherent goodness. And I see a roll for government to make sure the powerful don’t take advantage of the weak. But I assume like Colin that comes from our historical perspective. But think what you may.

      There are all kinds of crap on the Internet. If someone says voter fraud is rampant. It should be easy to back it up with factual convictions. Not just myths, but I know some people believe all types of stuff. So what can you do.

      Some of you still believe BO was not born in the US.

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        >>To be a conservative you don’t have to march lock step on every issue.

        True. Believe me, I hear from a lot of angry conservatives whenever I write about my support for gay marriage. lol.

        >>Some of you still believe BO was not born in the US.

        Yeah. That drives me nuts.

  • legal eagle

    Sir..as an attorney I understand you can manipulate numbers any way you want…..Want to use a percentage to make your point?…Be my guest…

    • Integrity

      So it is a fact that no one has ever used percentages to advance liberal talking points? QED

      • legal eagle

        I said there were many more white unwed mothers than blacks in the US….I stated a fact…..If you invest $100 in an investment and make a $33 profit and I invest $1000 and make a $250 profit who made more $$$$…???

        • redrowan2000

          Mathematical idiocy

        • Integrity

          What difference does it make!?!? I digress since I do appreciate the free math lesson, even if it is at the rudimentary level! You sure get excited after stating a single fact! LOL. Here is a fact: 100,000>333>250>33. Are you smart enough to get my point here – probably not. Any idea who is smart enough to make 100,000k from a 1k investment? Want to know the probability of that happening legally? You are an Anti-Dentite if you disagree with me. QED, Check and Mate X 2!

      • legal eagle

        You expect me to know what has ever happened? Just admit that I am factually correct or don’t bother me any more…

        • Integrity

          Yes, I did expect you to know a few things since you claimed to be smart and the keeper of the facts. I apologize for overestimating your abilities and setting the bar too high for you. So you want to discuss the facts? Then offer something besides your opinion! I’ll be charitable and help you out. “As of 2012, there had been 1,931 members of the United States Senate, but only six were African American.[5] Sheila Jackson Lee, an African-American member of the United States House of Representatives, said “I frankly think it’s a shame, and I think it is reflective of America sometimes still idling in the past.”” Can you grasp this or do I need to connect the dots for you? I will concede that there are more white unwed mothers than any other race in the US. The problem is you are using this fact to distort the salient points made by others. Here is a fact, “Dihydrogen Monoxide (DHMO) is a colorless and odorless chemical compound,
          also referred to by some as Dihydrogen Oxide, Hydrogen Hydroxide,
          Hydronium Hydroxide, or simply Hydric acid.
          Its basis is the highly reactive hydroxyl radical, a species shown to mutate
          DNA, denature proteins, disrupt cell membranes, and chemically alter critical
          neurotransmitters. The atomic components of DHMO are found in a number of caustic, explosive
          and poisonous compounds such as Sulfuric Acid, Nitroglycerine and Ethyl
          Alcohol.” Should the EPA ban this dangerous chemical? QED

          • Jeff Webb

            Hey, I heard something about this compound! Isn’t it also capable of breaking down metal, and potentially lethal when inhaled?

    • redrowan2000

      An acknowledged idiotic statement

  • Shane

    It is the black sub-culture which is holding back black Americans, not white racism that was prevalent in the 60’s.

    • gold7406

      You are correct. I believe the term is called invidious sanction.

      • Integrity

        Fascinating. I have never heard of this term before.

  • legal eagle

    Let Bill Cosby take care of his family….kids don’t care who Bill Cosby is or says…Why is he any more relevant than Harry Belafonte.?

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Well… For starters, Bill Cosby doesn’t hang out with foreign dictators and trash our country at every opportunity.

      • legal eagle

        How do you know what Bill Cosby does?

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Uh, because he’s a public figure, and when he makes public appearances, it tends to make the news.

          Not sure why you’re confused.

          • legal eagle

            Unless Bill is sick I would assume he is in the public everyday…What gets into the media is often what he wants to get into the media…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            I’m failing to see your point. Are you saying that I can’t admire him for what he says in public unless I know what he’s doing inside his house?

          • redrowan2000

            All knowing journalistic idiocy

        • redrowan2000

          Rhetorical idiotic question

      • legal eagle

        Nice….a little hate for Harry Belafonte…Not an acceptable black man to the white folks? Let see you hate Sharpton, Jackson, Obama & Belafonte? Who else? John Lewis?

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Hate?

          I don’t hate Belafonte, nor do I hate the others you listed.

          I just think Belafonte is an idiot, just like I do Sean Penn, Danny Glover, and the other dopes who hang out with dictators.

          If you think such people are good role-models for ANY community, that’s your prerogative.

          • legal eagle

            You are correct..You don’t hate ..You just have no respect for some people of great accomplishment because you don’t agree with their ideology….Pretty sad and intellectually limiting..

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            What are you talking about? The guy hangs out with murderous dictators and you’re angry because I think he’s a poor role-model for Americans?

            The guy’s a moron. Sorry, but he is.

          • redrowan2000

            Self righteous idiocy

          • Integrity

            Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Using this logic, it would be sad and intellectually limiting to have no respect for George Bush or even Kim Yong-un or Mao Tse-tung for that matter. Has it ever occurred to you that some of us have no respect for some people of “great accomplishment” simply because they are idiots? You sure can make some stupid statements for someone that is supposed to be smart. I bet you wish your mother had access to Planned Parenthood too. I’m laughing at the superior intellect! QED

          • legal eagle

            With that comment about my mother I will say it’s been nice knowing you….Obviously your mother never taught you anything manners or respect….

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            And you think routinely replying to posters for the sole purpose of calling them names is showing respect?

          • legal eagle

            I was responding to a post mentioning my mother…was I disrespectful?

          • Integrity

            Really!?!? You had no problem interjecting someone’s son into the debate, to wit: “If you had a son…he’d be working at Wal-Mart for minimum wage…and you would be thrilled…” I also recall some comments you made regarding your mother to others. My comment had nothing to do with your mother and you know it. You either understand the inference implied there or you are not as brilliant as you think you are. My deceased mother told me not to pick on people weaker than me, so I will leave you alone. QED

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Legal Eagle injects other people’s family members into his rants all the time. He told someone a couple of weeks ago that their daughter was destined to fail in life. He’s a completely un-selfaware fellow.

          • Integrity

            You hit the nail on the head! I am definitely not buying his fake outrage. He was simply losing in the battle of wits and slithered away like the gutless intellectual coward that he is. QED

        • redrowan2000

          Wow the racism keeps pouring through on these idiotic statements

    • redrowan2000

      Again racist idiocy

  • legal eagle

    My facts are correct? There are far more white children born out of wedlock than blacks….Look at the numbers, not the percentages…..People are individuals not percentages…

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Not incorrect. Just irrelevant.

    • redrowan2000

      Above is an example of statistical idiocy.

    • MontanaMade

      By only showing the sheer numbers, it does not tell the whole story- they must be shown with the percentages to get a bigger picture of what is happening. The reason there are more white babies born out of wedlock is because there are vastly more white people in America. But of all the white babies born, only 29% were born out of wedlock. But of all the black babies born, 72% were born out of wedlock- which is up from 30% just 40 years ago!

      To me, that is both stunning and telling. It shows how much the values for marriage in the black communities have disintegrated over the years. And yes, many studies have shown that by getting educated, getting married and waiting to have kids is the BEST way to find success- not the only way mind you, but the best way.

      • legal eagle

        Getting married is the best way for success? Many studies have shown? Gibberish

  • rogerdodger

    And no one reminded us of how good race relations were before Woodrow Wilson took office. Did I mention that WW was a democRAT? And, racist?

  • ivannavi

    I seriously doubt that anything will significantly change the culture of the black community until the leaders within those communities change from doing what they consider to be in their own [best] self economic interest. That self interest is dependent on keeping [their] people dependent on others for their survival rather than encouraging them to be self-reliant.

    In my opinion, those leaders are no better than the plantation overseers of old, or the African Kings and Arabs who sold slaves to the English and Dutch away back when.

    • Franklyn Douglas

      When did we have an election for the position of LEADER OF BLACK PEOPLE.

      It seems to me that some non black people keep calling them our leaders and then tear them down. I DONT NEED A LEADER. May I ask who the leader of white, Hispanic, and Asain people are. Jessie or don’t speak for me. Neither do Alan west or Herman Cain. I believe…”he who walks alone…..makes his own path”

  • ulyssesmsu

    Bernie, I don’t understand why you feel the need to say “President Obama spoke eloquently. Whatever else one may say about him, he can deliver a speech.” Baloney. On very RARE occasions, he can successfully read his notes. SO WHAT? Why do you feel the need to toss him this love-blossom? Stop air-kissing Obama and do your job. which is critiquing his pathetic presidency–something that ought to be increasingly easy as each day goes by.

    • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

      Obama’s ability to deliver a great speech is one of the primary reasons he’s our president. As far as I can see, he has few other talents.

      Anyone offended by someone merely pointing out that our president is a strong speaker might be wound up a bit too tightly.

      • Paul Vasek

        I think it is because there is little meaning behind Obama’s words and there lies the problem. Obama is a total fraud.

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          <<I think it is because there is little meaning behind Obama's words

          I don't disagree.

          • legal eagle

            I’m sure the President has nice things to say about you and your brilliant writing…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            More gibberish.

        • legal eagle

          Obama is a fraud compared to whom…You? What’s your great accomplishment? Did you get 60+ million votes twice?

          • redrowan2000

            Your statements are idiotic Seriously?

          • legal eagle

            Thanks for the compliment..

        • legal eagle

          if you wish to see the definition of fraud take a mirror and look into it…

      • legal eagle

        Have you ever thought how hypocritical you are regarding Obama? You say you are “troubled” by the plight of the black community but who is the Obama is the “American Dream” personified for the black community is someone you make degrading,disrespectful and hostile comments about …
        It’s got to make you and your fellow Conservatives crazy that a fatherless black kid graduated from Harvard Law and became the leader of the free world….

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          Completely nonsensical. You’re saying that because I’m troubled by the problems within the black community, I’m supposed to be angered by black people who are successful?

          Give me a break. You’re talking gibberish.

    • Franklyn Douglas

      I wonder if you were as critical of the great oratior G. Bush ?
      No answer needed, I think I know the answer.

      • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

        In all fairness, I don’t think anyone ever called George W. Bush an eloquent speaker. lol.

        • Franklyn Douglas

          John if I can ask you a question. Because I have not read everything you have ever written. I think it’s fair to say you don’t B. Obama. And I will chalk it up to ideology and not race. But I’m curious. Thinking back to the last administration. Would you say you are …AS CRITICAL, MORE CRITICAL, OR LESS CRITICAL.

          I ask because I always see right leaning pundits not on only giving B.O a hard time. They then use his past words against bush against him. As well as the words of other Dems. But the pundits never see to show what the republicans were saying on the same issue. It’s like y’all expect the Dems to bash B.O like they did bush. But rarely challenge the right for not blindly supporting the president, like they did when G.B was in charge.

          I hope that made sense. I see this as being hypocritical.

          • legal eagle

            There are a lot of Obama haters on this site.. It unifies the haters..They didn’t vote for him, they started with the hate on January 21, 2009 and will continue with their hate and disrespect until they have someone new to hate ie. Hillary….There is a segment of America who are ideologues and get their news from Fox and Limbaugh….Arguing with them is futile as they don’t care about facts…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            legal eagle, try being more like Franklyn and you’ll give people a reason to start listening to you.

          • Stimpy

            Funny how you label people who disagree with you as ‘haters’. Been seeing that in every other of your astonishing number of posts. Who’s the real hater? Ever look in the mirror?

          • redrowan2000

            Your statements are idiotic

          • fitzsimmons Photography

            Oh please. Here we go again. Anyone who disagrees with Barack Obama is a hater and or a racist!! This is an old and tiresome argument.I can’t stand one thing he(BO) stands for so therefore I don’t like his ideas,his policies, his attitude etc. Has nothing to do with him personally. I feel the same about Clinton and Carter. Last time I looked they are white.And if you want to talk about hate and disrespect.
            There has never been a time when a President has been so disrespected and hated as George Bush. At least four disgusting plays written by Hollywood liars,one awful Broadway Show starring Will Farrell, that the left flocked to. Three or four HBO specials castigating Bush, Chaney,Condi Rice and Sarah Palin.So if you want to talk about slicing and dicing a President,the liberals get the Tony!! Try getting a thicker skin legal eagle…….

          • legal eagle

            Exactly the point…You just hate Dems…You don’t mind the Republicans screwing you because your collecting your Social Security and Medicare while Republicans pass tax loopholes for corporate America…

          • Pete Wilson

            Fitz if you have nothing against him how can you state what you state. Seem personal to me.For you said:

            Anyone who disagrees with Barack Obama is a hater and or a racist!! This
            is an old and tiresome argument.I can’t stand one thing he(BO) stands
            for so therefore I don’t like his ideas,his policies, his attitude etc.
            Has nothing to do with him personally

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Hi Franklyn,

            I understand what you’re saying, and I agree that it can take a little discipline to be fair when evaluating a politician whose belief-system differs from one’s own.

            A lot of people with strong views have trouble with this, but I’ve always tried to be conscious of it.

            I’ve never ripped Obama for taking too many vacations, because Bush vacationed a lot too, and I had no problem with it. I’ve never ripped Obama for the NSA domestic surveillance program because I always assumed that the exact same thing was being done during the Bush administration, and had no problem with it then.

            I think people need to think about these kinds of things before levying criticisms. Otherwise, they make it hard for open-minded people to take them seriously. Sean Hannity is a perfect example. While I don’t disagree with a number of the things he says, I can’t watch the guy anymore. He obsesses over every petty little thing (much like most of the media did with Bush) and it discredits him.

            My problem with President Obama has nothing to do with who he is – only what he’s done.

            I believe he’s been astonishingly irresponsible on the economy and fiscal matters, has extended the scope of government control far beyond what I ever could have imagined (Obamacare being the big one), has shown an amazing eagerness to vilify his opponents and divide Americans along demographic lines, and has demonstrated an out-to-lunch leadership style that I find absolutely breathtaking.

            And I find it incredibly bothersome that so many people blindly defend him against every single criticism, typically without any facts or serious counter-arguments, just because they’re liberal thinkers.

            BTW, thanks for your posts today. They’ve made for interesting discussions.

          • Franklyn Douglas

            John it’s an honor to have a honest fair and balance reply from a pundit. I enjoyed the reality in what you said. I also cannot watch S.H any more. I totally didn’t like president Clinton. I understood that the president can’t lie in court. And him doing that denied Paula jones of her day in court. I used to listen to AIR AMERICA on XM radio. But that got old fast…..there was no way Bush could really be that bad. Then I listened to the FACTOR Radio and the fox nightly shows. But to my eye, the reality I saw on the ground in Iraq was not as rosy as the right made it out to be. I want balance. Pick a position and stick to it no mater what party controls the White House.
            If your conservative, then it’s wrong to support the republican president raising the debt ceiling. Then doing a 180 degree switch and being against it once a Democrat is in the White House..

            And if your a BIRTHER….you should be be all over Mr. Cruz …lol
            WHY IS THIS SO HARD .

          • Integrity

            Franklyn, Thank you for your service. I agree with you. Both political parties have a lot to be ashamed of.

          • legal eagle

            You didn’t like Bill Clinton because he lied in court? One of the greatest champions of civil rights to ever be POTUS and this is your assessment? You’ve got to be kidding…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Bill Clinton was one of the greatest champions of civil rights? Uh. yeah…

          • legal eagle

            The question was for Franklyn Douglas….If you would like to respond tell me who the last Republican POTUS was who proposed any civil rights legislation? Republicans have written off the minority vote since 1964 when they nominated Goldwater…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Thanks!

            I should clarify that there ARE times when I believe double-standards make sense, and it has nothing to do with party affiliation. It has to do with the state of the country.

            For example, government spending during times of a strong economy, in which the debt is a low percentage of our GDP, if a FAR different scenario than the same amount of government spending during a stagnant economy in which the debt has exploded in comparison to the GDP.

            One scenario is manageable while the other is dangerous, and that’s one of the biggest problems I’ve had with President Obama.

            Obama took office at a time when we were in an economic crisis, yet he never really seemed to acknowledge that crisis with his actions. He just kept burdening and burdening our economy, adding more debt, adding more regulations, adding more programs, adding more bureaucracies, and making it harder and harder for the private sector to recover.

            The result has been that the super-large companies had the means to eventually to adapt, cut the fat (mass layoffs), and rebound to some extend, while small businesses have been (and continue to be) buried with obstacles and are still suffering. And that has led to an employment situation that is still terrible after five years.

            In other words, a good leader needs to recognize the situation that surrounds him – not just do whatever he likes and say, “hey, the other guy did it too” as an excuse.

      • Drew Page

        George W. Bush made his share of gaffes and malapropisms, but typically that was when he tried reading off a teleprompter. when he spoke extemporaneously, he delivered a decent speech. People weren’t constantly crediting Bush for being an “eloquent” speaker so there was no need to deflate that balloon.
        But I have seen and heard Obama when there was no teleprompter or written speech in front of him. He stumbles and stammers like an unprepared freshman in speech class. When questioned in interviews, where he has to respond to an occasional hard-ball question, he again stumbles and stammers and changes the subject, launching into a campaign speech. The MSM media covers for this guy. If he farts, the MSM thinks it’s Mozart.

        • Franklyn Douglas

          You may well be correct about how MSNBC and the left treats B.O. So I will give you that.
          But who asked G.B the hard ball questions ? When I was not in Iraq all I remember on fox and right wing talk. Was always looking on the brighter side. For years the war went really bad prior to the surge. But all I saw and heard from the right was …..LOOK AT THE PURPLE FINGERS ( proof of voting), AND THE SCHOOLS WE BUILT,ETC. But not much about not going in with enough troops and all them IED’s, and other mistakes.

          All I ask is for fairness but that may be too much to ask for. Hey at least Bill O. Has been man enough to say that the. Iraq part was a mistake.
          So there is hope.

      • ulyssesmsu

        No, you don’t know the answer. And you’re completely missing the point. Goldberg, who is a consistent and relentless critic of Obama, should not blunt his criticism by making statements like these that aren’t true. Obama is not a great speaker. He is not even a great speech reader. And he didn’t get elected because of his great speaking ability. He got elected mostly because of the completely incompetent Republican candidates who ran against him.

        • Franklyn Douglas

          Well I will agree with your last point.

        • Pete Wilson

          Question friend if those Republicans were so incompetent why would you want them to have won the election. Could it be that you feel as a bi-racial man black he should not be in that office. Explain that to me. I mean if those that ran against him were that incompetent then would they make a better President then Obama is? One would think not based on your answer to FD question.

    • AgentofACORN

      President Obama has always been a great orator, something that his predecessor could rarely do. The whole teleprompter thing was a lie invented by Sean Hannity and swallowed hook line and sinker by the sheeple.

  • MontanaMade

    Legal Beagle is deliberately muddying the water by using raw numbers- not %. He/she/it is stating that in sheer numbers, there ARE more white babies born out of wedlock that blacks, but the percentage is much higher in the black communities- which is the point. 29% of all white babies born in the US are out of wedlock- where 72% of all black babies are born out of wedlock, and have a higher rate of poverty than do white- which is again- the point!

  • Brhurdle

    In my opinion, the major factor in unrealized economic potential is culture. If your culture is dismissive of young children doing well in school and places emphasis on being the tough kid, guess what it produces – uneducated kids with a chip on their shoulder who feel that the world is unfair. It’s hard to ignore that we are the product of our culture and our parent’s values that we adopt largely determine the success we will have in life. If you are taught from the beginning that the world is out to get you because of your race, you will not persevere and will find excuses for the inevitable failures we all experience.

    • Shane

      Black students who pay attention in class, respect the teacher, do their homework and succeed in school are accused of “acting white,” which is the greatest insult you can hurl against a black child. No wonder so many black students fail to graduate.

    • Franklyn Douglas

      Funny post……I think there are more then a few examples of how the deck was/is stacked against some. Lol but why bother

      • legal eagle

        Don’t bother…the Archie Bunker crowd doesn’t really listen to anyone but the O’Reillys and Limbaughs,…the leaders of the cult of bitter old men…

        • redrowan2000

          Your statement is idiotic

          • Wil

            Your statement is idiotic>>

            How about explaining why?

          • Jeff Webb

            How about you start earning the right to tell others to explain?

          • Wil

            Jeff. Are you fine with redrowan2000 posts. And, what’s this earn the right nonsense?

            Explain!

  • Ksp48

    Oh, sorry I thought legal eagle was a genuine poster so I answered him. Having now read through all the posts, I see he’s just a troll. My bad.

    • John Daly

      We forgive you. You’re new. ;)

      • legal eagle

        If you cant fill em with facts…baflle em with BS…..The right wing media strategies founding credo…

        • redrowan2000

          Your statement is idiotic in this context

    • MontanaMade

      I STILL fall for it- he’s an idiot- but an idiot that gets my goat at times… I should know better!

    • Wil

      Some of us, believe you are a troll. How about that!

  • Ksp48

    While the country has progressed beyond recognition (imagine going to sleep in 1963 and waking up today), the civil rights movement has regressed almost as much.

  • graphitejim

    Every “Tea Party” member would stand tall next to Martin Luther King proudly.
    The key phrases in this great speech from my perspective are ; we “will one day live in a nation not be judged by the color of their skin but the content of their character.” AND “when all of God’s children- black men and white men; Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics will be able to join hands.”
    2 key words “character” and “God”
    These 2 words identify the “Tea Party” more than anything else.
    But who is against both – Democrat’s are against both. They lack character and they against God.
    So today I remind you. The Tea Party proudly stands besides Dr. King and encourages all Americans to respect his plea to honor GOD and judge on the character of the being. We are a color blind community who respect those of character and the freedom to worship to their heavenly God.
    The media recognizes the flawed “character” of their anointed Democratic candidates and representatives so they must focus on the color of ones skin. If ever there was a “phony” issue created by the established media this is the one. Just look at the venom and disdain they have for Alan West or any other Black Republican. With respect to “GOD” they reject him. They are Anti-God. The Ten Commandments and the Pledge of Allegiance – “..one nation under GOD…” is now forbidden in our taxpayer funded schools and courtrooms. This is not the decision of Conservatives and Republicans this is the choice of Liberals and Democrats . It is clear that the Party that rejects Dr. Martin Luther King is the Democratic Party. Just as they did back in the ’60’s with the Dixie Democrats who rejected segregation and voting rights.
    Just my thoughts on a great American Dr. Martin Luther King who I believe would be proud to also stand beside any “American Tea Party Patriot” today.

    • Michael Moore

      Allen West is God?

      • Stimpy

        Michael Moore is troll? Yes, and a big fat one at that.

    • John Daly

      I’ve long believed that King’s philosophy fell far more in line with modern conservative principles than they do liberal principles. I think King would roll over in his grave if he heard some of the stuff that comes out of the mouths of current-day civil rights leaders.

      • legal eagle

        What do you know abut King’s philosophy? King believed there was a permanent black underclass in America brought about by the white power structure…You don’t even believe there is a white powers structure in America…

        • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

          >>What do you know abut King’s philosophy?

          I listened to the man speak.

          • legal eagle

            Really…I’ll get you the name of a terrific book about Dr. King…You know the man’s philosophy by his speeches?
            Hmmmm

          • MontanaMade

            Actually, yes- you get to know someone by their speeches AND their actions.

            BO is a great speaker, but has no action to back up what he says, unless he talks about more division (racially, economically, socially) in American- then his policies show he is creating it. Not to mention all the outright lies and coverups.

            MLK SHOWED he believe what he said, because his actions proved it. He was a man of integrity, and he showed it every day, at least that’s what I have found as I have studied him over the years (though I do not profess to be an expert).

            There’s a big, gaping difference between MLK & BO. I respect and admire MLK. BO? Not so much…

          • legal eagle

            Either you are not old enough or have not read enough but MLK was not looked upon with great kindness in the white community….He had to be assassinated for that to happen….Obama is the political equivalent of Jackie Robinson…Jackie was not looked upon all that kindly by the white world until years after he retired….

          • MontanaMade

            My grandkids think I’m older than dirt! maybe I am…

            B.O. isn’t 1/10th of what Robinson was and had to endure- please don’t insult his memory too. As to MLK- he lived in a different time and place in this country. He stood for change and equality. At that time it was historic as the nation shifted due to his & others influence- but the nation was ready & ripe for change.

            And when you say the white community- it was a smaller but vocal percentage that totally disagreed with him- primarily the Democratic party- as shown by their votes against everything he wanted to accomplish- which explains why MLK was a Republican. The GOP were right in line with his ideals as their votes show on record. Same with J.R.- the deep south is where he met the most hatred- but it was the dixie dems that took it to him. Remember who the KKK was started & run by all through the ages.

            There are many things I admire about MLK (and J.R.). I don’t necessarily agree with everything he said or stood for- but there are many, many things I do agree with & admire him for- mostly his courage & convictions- the ability to stand in the face of danger and hatred and say things that were true however unpopular- yet he never backed down.

          • legal eagle

            All I can say is that in the black community Obama is the equivalent of Jack Robinson and has had to put up with the same kind of vilification and hatred….Perhaps you can cite the last Republican President that had an agenda furthering civil rights in America…The last instance of Republican involvement in civil rights was Eisenhower sending troops to Little Rock to enforce Brown v. Board of Ed…
            Am I missing anything?

          • MontanaMade

            What civil rights are you referring to? Obama hasn’t fought ANY civil rights battles that I can see.

            And GWBush got just as much hatred as BO- maybe more- still does.

            And if it’s viewed “in the black community” as hatred, then it’s just their perception in the black community- no one else sees it that way. Do people dislike Obama? yes, they do- but not on race (sure there may be a few true racists thrown in there), but it’s mainly due to personal views, policy or political views- not race.

          • legal eagle

            Gay rights, easier access to college loans, equal pay for women, enforcement of civil rights violations by the DOJ, voting rights litigation by the DOJ….need more examples?

          • MontanaMade

            other than a slight possibility of gay rights for marriage (which I couldn’t care less about), these are not civil rights issues.

          • legal eagle

            Objection denied…..

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Obama is the political equivalent of Jackie Robinson<<

            Nobody with an objective mind could see an equivalent between those two.

            -Robinson was as accomplished an athlete as any major leaguer, and more accomplished than most of them; Obama had no executive experience in any public office or private enterprise, and very little legislative experience.
            -Robinson maintained a quiet deference and dignity throughout his career and after; Obama maintains an obvious sense of entitlement.
            -Robinson got ahead by keeping his skills and athletic condition in top form, with no guarantee that men like Branch Rickey and Peewee Reese would ever come to support him; Obama got ahead with soaring rhetoric, false promises, and unusually dirty campaigning, with the backing of rich & powerful people every step of the way.

            As committed a liberal you are, please rethink this. You might think Obama deserves this elevation, but Robinson is way out of his league.

          • legal eagle

            I said that the black community looks at Obama as a pioneer just as they did Jackie Robinson…
            If Branch Rickey did not support Jack Robinson he would not have been on the Dodgers…If Pee Wee Reese had not supported Robinson, Reese would have been traded as some other Dodgers were for being hostile towards Jackie..

          • Jeff Webb

            >>I said that the black community looks at Obama as a pioneer just as they did Jackie Robinson…<<

            Actually, you mentioned that once, in a previous comment. But you said TWICE that what Robinson experienced from whites is similarly being experienced by Obama. One was barred from eating and sleeping in most public places well into adulthood, the other has been coddled by white people since childhood, so I guess few could blame you for denying you equated the two.

            I'm starting to believe you're lying about your job. You've come and posted here for some time now; if you think you can still get away with posting falsehoods here, and that there is any similarity between Robinson's and Obama's experiences, you lack the capacity of thought necessary to earn a JD.

            If John Kerry or Howard Dean were POTUS and behaving and governing like BO, conservatives wouldn't suddenly approve of it. Try arguing that, and then burn that tattered race card.

          • legal eagle

            Jackie grew up in LA and was not barred from eating or sleeping anywhere he wanted.
            If you were in a deposition you’d be laughed at…I said that the black community looks at Robinson and Obama as pioneers and historic figures.
            You disagree…that’s fine.
            The analogy has been written about since 2008….
            I could care less whether you think I’m a lawyer or not….What are you?

          • Jeff Webb

            What, do you think Robinson’s pro career kept him in L.A.? Be serious.

            Did you not say, in your comparison to Bo and Robinson, that they were similar in how they experienced hatred? Do you believe that?

            In this forum you’re regularly laughed at.

          • legal eagle

            If I said the sky was blue you would find something to argue about…I said they are both considered pioneers in the black community…You change the subject by bringing up that Robinson is a better ball player that Obama is a POTUS…..
            You believe that in Robinson’s generation racism exited but in Obama’s generation there is no racism….I understand you argument…..
            You liked Jackie because while he was playing he did what he was told by Branch Rickey.. If you read Jackie’s biography you would no he was just acting the part ..

          • legal eagle

            This the typical comment I laugh at…..

            >>What do you know about King’s philosophy?

            I listened to the man speak. is the type of comment I laugh at…
            Funny stuff?

          • legal eagle

            Did you respect and admire MLK when he was alive? Did you respect that he was against the Vietnam War? Did you respect his call for economic justice and higher wages for blacks? Did you respect the fact that his death caused riots?

        • Stimpy

          So everything is black or white? Monolithic white power structure? So when a white gets laid off by his white boss, he’s a white victim of the white power structure? Are you wearing a tinfoil hat by chance? Your paranoia is showing.

          • legal eagle

            Keep your head in the sand…You are clueless…

        • redrowan2000

          You make idiotic statements

          • Wil

            What is ‘idiotic’ about LE post.?

    • AgentofACORN

      You obviously understand nothing of Dr. King or his philosophy. You are also white washing the fact that the Dixie Democrats who left the Democratic Party because of their racism became Republicans. They are the spiritual forbearers of today’s Conservative Republicans. Dr. King would speak out against the way Conservatives have gutted the Civil Rights Act and how many Conservatives are doing their level best to disenfranchise minority voters.
      Who exactly is Alan West? If you mean Allen West, the man is an embarrassment to the United States and our Armed Forces.
      You also know very well that the Tea Party absolutely would not ever stand with Dr. King anywhere. If that were true, why did NONE of them show up for the 50th anniversary celebration, including Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, when ALL were invited?

      • graphitejim

        Yes I am WHITE. Is that a problem for you? Nice spin with talking points which are unsubstantiated and false. Enjoy the history lesson. I repeat ” the Tea Party would have stood right along side Dr. King and supported his position.

        1. “According to Congressional Quarterly, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed the House 290-130, and Republican support for the bill was much stronger than Democratic: 61 percent (152-96) of the Democrats supported the legislation while 80 percent (138-34) of the Republicans backed it. These numbers were similar in the Senate — 69 percent of Democrats (46-21), backed the bill along with 82 percent of Republicans (27-6).”

        Only Strom Thurman left the Dem. Party and switched to the Republican Party But Al Gore Sr., Lester Maddox, Robert Bird,…and all the others remained Democrats.

        footnote :

        one final element was essential to passage of the civil rights bill—the strong support of Republicans. Although Democrats had a historically large majority in the House of Representatives with 259 members to 176 Republicans, almost as many Republicans voted for the civil rights bill as Democrats. The final vote was 290 for the bill and 130 against. Of the “yea” votes, 152 were Democrats and 138 were Republicans. Of the “nay” votes, three-fourths were Democrats. In short, the bill could not have passed without Republican support. As Time Magazine observed, “In one of the most lopsidedly Democratic Houses since the days of F.D.R., Republicans were vital to the passage of a bill for which the Democratic administration means to take full political credit this year.”
        A similar story is told in the Senate. On the critical vote to end the filibuster by Southern Democrats, 71 senators voted to invoke cloture. With 67 votes needed, 44 Democrats and 27 Republicans joined together to bring the bill to a final vote. Of those voting “nay,” 80 percent were Democrats, including Robert C. Byrd and former Vice President Al Gore’s father, who was then a senator from Tennessee. Again, it is clear that the civil rights bill would have failed without Republican votes. Close observers of the Senate deliberations recognized that the Republican leader, Senator Everett McKinley Dirksen of Illinois, had done yeoman work in responding to the objections of individual Republicans and holding almost all of them together in support of the bill. “More than any other single individual,” the New York Times acknowledged, “he was responsible for getting the civil rights bill through the Senate.”
        2. another source: this is . how the House of Representatives voted:
        “Of the 420 members who voted, 290 supported the civil rights bill and 130 opposed it. Republicans favored the bill 138 to 34; Democrats supported it 152-96. It is interesting to note that Democrats from northern states voted overwhelmingly for the bill, 141 to 4, while Democrats from southern states voted overwhelmingly against the bill, 92 to 11.”
        The article later states how the Senate voted:
        “[…] the Senate passed the bill by a 73 to 27 roll call vote. Six
        Republicans and 21 Democrats held firm and voted against passage.”

        3. Kennedy called the congressional leaders to the White House in late October, 1963 to line up the necessary votes in the House for passage.[7] The bill was reported out of the Judiciary Committee in November 1963, and referred to the Rules Committee, whose chairman, Howard W. Smith, a Democrat and avid segregationist from Virginia, indicated his intention to keep the bill bottled up indefinitely.

        4.Normally, the bill would have been referred to the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Senator James O. Eastland, Democrat from Mississippi. Given Eastland’s firm opposition, it seemed impossible that the bill would reach the Senate floor.

        5.On the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.) completed a filibustering address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier opposing the legislation.

        6.Recap for slow –

        The original House version:

        Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7–93%)
        Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0–100%)
        Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94–6%)
        Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85–15%)

        The Senate version:

        Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5–95%) (only Ralph Yarborough of Texas voted in favor)
        Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0–100%) (John Tower of Texas)
        Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98–2%) (only Robert Byrd of West Virginia voted against)
        Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84–16%)

        7. you referring to the same Alan West –

        Lieutenant Colonel Allen West has lived his life in service to America. In 2004, when it was time to retire from more than twenty years of service in the US Army, Col. West brought his wife and two young daughters to Broward County, Florida, where he taught high school for a year. Colonel West then returned to Afghanistan as an advisor to the Afghan army, an assignment that he finishes in November 2007.

        Born and raised in Atlanta, Col. West received BS (UT) and MS degrees in political science (KSU). He also holds a Master of Military Arts and Sciences from the US Army Command and General Staff Officer College in political theory and military history and operations.

        “Education is the great equalizer,” he says. “With a good education, any child in America can live his dream.”

        Colonel West knows that for our children to live their dreams, they need to be safe. He has faced down the world’s terrorists: in Operation Desert Storm, in Operation Iraqi Freedom, where he was battalion commander for the Army’s 4th Infantry Division, and in Afghanistan, where he trains Afghan officers to take on the responsibility of securing their own country.

        In his Army career, Col. West has been honored many times, including a Bronze Star, three Meritorious Service Medals, three Army Commendation Medals (one with Valor), and a Valorous Unit Award. He received his valor award as a Captain in Desert Shield/Storm, was the US Army ROTC instructor of the year in 1993, and was a Distinguished Honor Graduate III Corps at Fort Hood, Texas Air Assault School.

        Excellence is a West family tradition. His lovely wife, Angela, holds an MBA and PhD. and works as a financial planner. His daughter, Aubrey, 15, was just accepted into Cambridge academic program at Ft Lauderdale HS and his daughter, Austen, 11, is a budding young pianist.
        Col. West believes in God as did MLK.
        Col. West’s life record demonstrates “Character” like MLK demonstrated throughout his life.

        8. This entire event was promoted with the intent not to invite Republicans and was run by a Democratic operative from the White House.
        9. Voter Rights – every “Legal” American citizen of age and registered to vote has the right to vote. Unregistered and illegal aliens do not have that right. Protecting the integrity of the vote is the cornerstone of a true and fair election process.
        Voter Identification is one way to ensure the election process.
        Obfuscating the issue as a racial thing is your attempt to misinform the national media and rally your base. No basis of fact just a political strategy which is also a lie. But like many lies if you repeat it over and over and over again you can convince yourself and others that the lie is the truth.

        • AgentofACORN

          Those that voted against the Civil Rights Act, whether Dem or GOP, were Conservatives. Those that voted for it were moderates or liberals.

          Allen West is a disgrace to his uniform and to America.

          Every member of Congress was invited, including Tim Scott. That not one single Republican showed up or made plans to attend speaks volumes.

          the problem with conservative friends such as you it that you know so many things that just aren’t so

          • graphitejim

            ACORN AGENT _ Your are a misinformed liar as one would expect from someone representing ACORN

          • AgentofACORN

            ACORN was destroyed by the disgraced “journalist” James O’Keefe and Andrew Breitbart part of the coordinated effort by the Conservative Media. you insult Dr King by insinuating in any way that he would be a conservative

  • MontanaMade

    “Does Mr Morial really believe that stop-and-frisk is doing more harm than having babies out of wedlock? Does Ms. Campbell think that judges in black robes are doing as much harm as bigots in white sheets?”

    Yes- I do think they believe this!! Absolutely they do! This is how they keep the race wars active- but spouting drivel like this to the teaming masses looking for excuses to abandon thought, reason & responsibilities!

    Does it happen from time to time that there is one idiot making the rest look stupid? yes- it does, but not nearly to the degree they are telling us it is. If the Martin/Zimmerman case was any indication- you’d think there are masses of “white” guys out there just randomly blowing away young black men everywhere! Sadly, the media buys this narrative- they are just as culpible as anyone in this mess. But the TRUTH is something very different. Black on black crime accounts for over 93% of all violent black deaths- not the other way around.

    And since we’re on the subject- remind me again why the Democrats are talking about equality? Wasn’t the KKK born and kept alive all through the years by the very party crying about how evil it is?? No, the GOP never adopted the KKK as the Dems would have you believe- never happened.

    The Dems are the party of racial division and inequality- and they will always be- because of power. It’s always been about power.

    Though the GOP isn’t that much better…

  • Don Huntington

    The tragedy of unwed mothers in the black, Latino and white societies is a small reflection of what we have become. We swim in a sewer of un-Godly filth day in and day out with not even a thought of personal responsibility. We threw God out of our schools and institutions of higher learning, good has become evil and evil has become good.
    Don’t look now people because things WILL get worse. The so-called ‘progressives’ have the upper hand and what they preach and practice are two entirely different things. If we have any brains at all we can see our reflection in “The rise and fall of the Roman empire”.
    Sad isn’t it that we were so great and now look at us – barren, Godless and living in past glories.

    • legal eagle

      Thanks Reverend Archie Bunker….

  • floridahank

    My question is on the voter I.D. laws complaints. I ask you, if someone met you on the street and asked “who are you?” What and how could you prove then, who you are? Maybe the law, for a lawful reason, wanted you to prove who you said you were. How can you prove it?
    With so many people with much free time on their hands, what would it take to either go or have someone take you to a certified place where you could get acceptable photo ID, and I’m certain there are enough charities, agencies, churches, etc. that could supply the $50 to pay for it.
    I don’t understand with all the years that this issue has been debated, why these people couldn’t have gotten their proper ID.
    I’d appreciate any other answers.

    • Ksp48

      Yesterday I was asked to show ID to DEPOSIT a large check in my account. This after I had already swiped my bank card and keyed in my PIN.

      • legal eagle

        And if you deposited the check in the ATM you would not have been asked anything…Did you ask the teller what would happen if you didn’t have an ID?

        • MontanaMade

          may or may not- but its probably going to be held for a long time for availability and for reporting purposes. They should have the ID on file anyway- somewhere in the system, so it takes time to track it down from the home branch. Once that’s done, or they call you in to fill out the CTR- then the funds may be released.

          The IRS is a cruel taskmaster…

          • legal eagle

            Banks make the rules, any rules regarding holds are made by state banking commissioners ….not the IRS… You can overcome the hold by either aggressively discussing it with the bank manager or…demand interest on the funds from the day of deposit…
            Of course, the bigger the deposit, the more the bank will value your continued business….LOL

          • MontanaMade

            I wish that was true, but it just isn’t. A bank- regardless of the manager or what state it’s in- cannot make that call. The IRS and the Fed Reserve make those rules and I have seen many managers fired over not following the law to the letter! The states can and do make rules concerning their own banking laws, but there are a bunch of laws that are federally mandated- this being one of them. This rule is in place for money laundering issues- which does happen in many places. People don’t like the government getting all that info- but they know everything about you anyway- what does it matter if they know about a deposit someone makes, unless they are trying to hide something. sneaky people…

      • Wil

        Yesterday I was asked to show ID to DEPOSIT a large check in my account.>>

        I’m thinking you are lying. Withdraw yes. Deposit no!

        • MontanaMade

          Actually Federal law requires banks to get a state or federally issued ID for any deposit $10K or more (yes I managed banks for many years…) and report it to the IRS on a CTR (form 4789).

          And unless they KNOW the person, you would get ID’d as well for the withdrawal.

          • Wil

            You are correct about the deposited $10K or more.

            Thank you.

    • legal eagle

      If a cop asks you for ID you are under no obligation to show him anything…That’s because of the constitution…ever hear of that?
      Because some people have no need for an ID, or they are sick and cant get around, or they have no transportation to get to the DMV…
      There are no “certified places” to get ID’s…
      Where in the constitution does it say you have to pay to vote?

  • legal eagle

    There are far more babies born to unwed white women than black women…Why are Conservatives so obsessed with the black single family households rather than whites? And if single family households are such a problem what’s the conservative solution? Haven’t yet heard a solution by the right….

    • John Daly

      Conservatives like myself look at the disproportionate problems within the black community, and we view it as a tragedy. There’s no reason why it has to be that way – especially in a country like the United States.

      I blame a lot of this on the victimization culture where liberals, over many years, have convinced a lot of people within the black community that they’re being suppressed, and that they can’t make it without the heavy hand of government – more specifically the Democratic party. Democratic policies have failed the inner-cities and have not bettered the situations of black people living there.

      What will help is more leaders within the black community who are more like Bill Cosby – people who spread a pro-family message of tough love and personal responsibility. What they need less of is the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world who tell them that they’re problems are from the “white power structure” in this country, in which they have no chance of getting ahead in life because of its existence.

      When you have respected people of influence encouraging those who look up to them to clean up their acts, that can only help. When such people spread a message of personal responsibility and opportunity, that can only help. When more people are challenged to dump the damaging rap culture, that will help.

      Unfortunately, not enough leaders are willing to do that, and others are doing just the opposite for self-serving purposes.

      • legal eagle

        Conservatives tend to identify a problem and offer nothing in the way of solutions…
        This “problem” seems to be limited to the black community? Whites have far more unwed and single family mothers but that’s not a problem? Tell me why?
        If you think that black youth give a hoot about what Bill Cosby has to say your delusional.
        Face it, Conservatives hate Sharpton, Jackson and Obama…They are your bogeymen..

        • Stimpy

          Why are white kids doing so much better than black kids if John’s comments aren’t true? Like most liberals you are immune to common sense and would rather condemn most black boys to a life of poverty and jail than consider for one moment that your liberal beliefs are part of the problem.

          • legal eagle

            White kids are doing better than black kids…Hasn’t that been the case since 1776?
            You’re perception is amazing….LOL

          • Stimpy

            So I guess we can all give up on black kids. I’m sure that they will appreciate your perception that they are inferior and will always be unsuccessful. They can sit on their couch and watch daytime TV and never lift a finger. Yeah, they probably love liberalism … all the way to the poorhouse.

          • legal eagle

            many white kids get ahead because they inherit or can borrow money from their parents….not quite the same among minorities….

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            How many “white kids” do you honestly believe “get ahead” by inheriting or borrowing money from their parents? And why don’t you believe black people are capable of sharing that same tradition?

          • legal eagle

            They get a stake….Black families have a fraction of the wealth that whites have in America? This is changing but it will take many more generations…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            >>Black families have a fraction of the wealth that whites have in America?

            I don’t doubt that. When the black unemployment rate and school drop-out rates are always far higher than those of whites, it makes perfect sense.

            The question, however, is how does that point to “white privilege” as being the problem? Does the black community accept no responsibility for such discrepancies?

          • redrowan2000

            Alinskyite idiocy

          • redrowan2000

            Socialist Idiocy

          • legal eagle

            “we can give up on black kids”? What do you do for black kids? What do any Republicans do for minorities?

          • Stimpy

            What do you do for black kids other than to excuse their self-defeating attitudes and habits and then blame whitey for their troubles?

          • redrowan2000

            Biased idiocy

          • redrowan2000

            Statement is amazingly idiotic

        • redrowan2000

          Blind idiotic statement

    • John Daly

      George Zimmerman is the solution

      • legal eagle

        Tell it to Zimmerman’s wife….She’s had enough of that wimp…

        • redrowan2000

          Personal attack idiocy

      • http://1389blog.com/ 1389AD

        Actually, that’s true – George Zimmerman mentored black kids.

      • John Daly

        Just so everyone knows, the coward who posted the above statement was NOT me. It was “I Hate Fascists” pretending to be me. Quite possibly the most pathetic thing this moron has ever done on this website. Say goodbye, troll.

        • John Daly

          Considering the source I will take that as a compliment

    • beniyyar

      Because there are more White women than Black women for one thing, and the same problems that single parent Black women face are faced by single parent White women. It’s just that White women don’t complain about it, they face the fact that they are responsible for their bad choices. Black women blame everybody but themselves.

      • legal eagle

        Those colored folks have been complaining since the 60’s….

        • John Daly

          I love how the only people who still refer to black people as “colored folks” are the liberals who think they’re cleverly mocking conservatives.

          • legal eagle

            There is plenty to mock…That’s why Republicans have lost the minority vote, the youth vote and the woman vote….Republicans have treated Obama with such utter disrespect and irrational hatred that they have lost the minority vote for the next 30 years…similar to the way Jackie Robinson was treated by many in baseball…

          • Jeff Webb

            There is absolutely no comparison between Obama’s and Robinson’s treatment, and your ignorance is stunning.

            For one thing, DEMOCRATS were the bigots who reacted to Robinson with hostility, and in fact one key thing hasn’t changed. Your side still thinks blacks are inferior.

            Obama, the one who fancied himself as a “post-partisan” uniter, above all the animosity of politics, would buckle like cheap plywood if he got as much disrespect as he gave.

          • redrowan2000

            More idiocy

        • redrowan2000

          Racist idiocy

    • Seattle Sam

      The solution is right there in B&W. Graduate from high school. Get a job – any job. Get married and have children – in that order. Nobody in the world in a robe or sheet stopping you from implementing that plan.

      • legal eagle

        That’s not a plan… that’s advice. Tell it to your kids …No one else gives a damn about your advice…

        • Seattle Sam

          It is mostly definitely a plan. Millions of people have followed it successfully. They’re the ones who are not poor.

          • legal eagle

            Really? So all the people who work for poverty wages at Wal-Mart are living the American Dream?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            No. Some of them are working toward it, and Wal-mart is just a step on the ladder.

          • legal eagle

            I was at a Wal-Mart recently…Many of the workers are adults over 25 years old….These are no “step up” jobs…This is the working poor’s piece of the American Dream

          • redrowan2000

            They are not reading your idiotic statements

        • Stimpy

          You asked for a solution, you got it … and you reject it ‘as advice’? Way to go, liberal troll.

          • legal eagle

            That’s an individual solution not policy. Freedom has its downside…There were 1.5 million out of wedlock children born in 2011….Your solution is have no sex?

          • Jeff Webb

            Your solution is for people to keep having children before they can afford to support a family?

          • redrowan2000

            The solution is to stop making idiotic statements

          • Wil

            ‘ idiotic’ is that your middle name?

        • Ksp48

          It does not seem that you are a serious poster. You have a community that is doing everything in reverse of what historically works for people to achieve success. You have a government that institutionalizes precisely the wrong incentives. And you have a culture that celebrates their failures. Yet, you insult a poster who cares enough to post a very straightforward comment about it.

          • Seattle Sam

            Legal appears to be the sort of person who would ignore the maintenance plan for his car because it was merely “advice”. Then when the car started falling apart he would complain that the manufacturer had no plan to prevent his car from deteriorating.

          • legal eagle

            The reason I don’t ignore my cars maintenance plan is because someone who knows what they are doing performs the service for me.
            So your solution for those who don’t go to college is to not have sex and work for crap wages at McDonalds or Wal-Mart?
            Your “good old days” so called solutions are not relevant today….

          • redrowan2000

            Fill n the blank idiotic statements come from I_ _ _ _ _

          • legal eagle

            I have asked you to tell me what your solution to the “problem “is? Haven’t we always had poverty in America? Haven’t we always had an underclass of blacks, immigrants and the working poor who were exploited by corporate America? The government institutionalizes nothing…Corporate America has institutionalized poverty in America through its political arm, The Republican Party….

          • redrowan2000

            More idiotic statements

        • redrowan2000

          Idiotic statement? See above

    • Stimpy

      72% of black kids born to unwed mothers. You did read that didn’t you? Maybe you need, like most black kids, to buff up your reading comprehension skills?

    • Ksp48

      The percentage in the white community is less than 1/3 of the black community. It too has grown and it too is a major issue for the future of this country. But its not nearly the problem today as it is for African Americans.

      • legal eagle

        It is not nearly the problem for who? Single parent white families?
        Conservatives who need to play the race card?

        • John Daly

          Conservatives aren’t the ones who play the race card. You and your buddies on the left do. For a lot of you, It’s ALL you do.

        • redrowan2000

          Another idiotic statement

    • Vulcan

      You intentionally obfuscate a bigger fact, that PER CAPITA, blacks by a quantum leap have more babies out of wedlock. It’s called the babies for money game….. Blacks only make up 13% of the population yet consume over 50% of ALL social resource monies and services that working people pay for. People in general are concerned with black single households because in the black community that as often as not creates a criminal mindset and tendency for illegal and gang activity with no father to help steer the children, and whites don’t go around killing anywhere near the rate blacks factually do. Pat Bucannan just wrote an editorial this week and here are some FBI facts, if you like facts – which I doubt:

      “Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit
      violent crime against a white person than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery.” (If decent black folks have trouble hailing a cab, and they do, these numbers may help explain it.)

      Black-on-white rape is 115 times more common than the
      reverse.”

    • Tim Ned

      White is 28.6% and Black is 72.3%. In the U.S., marriage drops the probability of child poverty by 82%. You are right we conservatives are obsessed. We are obsessed with getting children out of poverty, white and black.

      The fact is, young people listen to leadership whether it be from the household or from community leaders including politicians. You liberals are “Obsessed” with handing out condoms and birth control that has done nothing but increased the out of wedlock birth rate. How’s that strategy working for you?

      We are also obsessed with school vouchers that would permit young poor kids to go to better schools where they would have a chance at a better education. We are also obsessed with the 16 million black babies that have been aborted. Not to mention the millions of others that are non-black. We are also obsessed with charities that have a much better track record at helping kids than any government program. And we are also obsessed with “Bum” dads who desert their own children.

      Your question is significant because it displays your ignorance of the problem. “And if single family households are such a problem…..” Do I have to say more?

      The facts are in front of you and this is the main problem with liberals and the Democratic party. They simply don’t care!!!

    • redrowan2000

      The statements you make are idiotic.

  • gold7406

    Champions of industry, military leaders, sports coaches, all exude “yes we can.” Far better than what we hear from many in the poorer communities,”no we can’t and this is why.”

  • I Hate Fascists

    You are saying Scott, West, Carson, or Thomas were prevented from speaking? You cannot and do not back up that accusation. No doubt if they did not speak it is because they chose not to. Greatest speech of the 20th century? Maybe, but not nearly as good as your ‘I Have A Racist Dream’ speech from your previous article

  • DonaldYoungsRevenge

    I worked in the NY prison system for 30 years. On Mother’s day the visiting room was packed and nearly a soul on Father’s day. Bill Clinton talking about family values is the equalavent of Governor Krispe Kream talking about healthy food. Frontpage recently had an artilce describing 10 of the country’s worse race baiters and most were the so-called “civil rights leaders” and Barack H. Obama was near the top of the list. It was well documented and accurate. Did anyone notice that they didn’t come close to 100,000 participants? With this bunch of radical progressives leaders the black community has become hostage to dreadful future. They once chose black religious leaders to lead them through their struggles and now they are content with race baiters and nasty hip hop entertainers as leaders and there are folks that believe this will work? Having a President who is guilty of using fraudulent documents to attain his rise to the presidency will set back any good that may have been done when the country came together to elect him. When the “top dog” is a fraud and a criminal one can only cry for those black folks who were so proud 5 years ago. His crimes will eventually come to light and what a sad, sad that will be.

    • legal eagle

      Thank you Archie Bunker for you insight and your hatred…

      • redrowan2000

        Name calling idiocy 101

    • bbf

      There is nothing progressive about Obama. Progressives do not maintain their own personal kill list, target American citizens for assignation, use drones to murder thousands of civilians, including hundreds of children, assist NATO in the illegal invasion of a country..w/o the supposed approval of congress, give financial support to Islamic rebels, start a covert drone war in Yemen, deploy US special forces to 75 countries, sell $30 billion in weapons to the Saudis, defend body scans and pat-downs at airports, continue the rendition program, sign Patriot Act extension into law, approve of the targeting of Americans by the IRS, approve of NSA’s spying on all Americans..and..who knows what else he’s doing!!!!

      • DonaldYoungsRevenge

        Obama was wholeheartedly backed by the Progessives, the Marxist, the Communists, the Socialist here in America, so we must assume the man has a little bit of all their philosophies in his brain full of mush. Those radical groups mentioned above flocked to him in two elections. They were all hoping for HOPE and CHANGE and the baffons were suckered AGAIN.

  • EddieD_Boston

    Every black guy I knew growing up who had a father turned out just fine. It’s way less complicated than liberals realize.

    • I Hate Fascists

      Obama didn’t have one and he turned out ok no?

      • Wheels55

        No

        • I Hate Fascists

          Better than you

          • Wheels55

            How 4th grade of you to say.

      • EddieD_Boston

        He grew up in suburbia and went to an elite school with all the local rich kids. I can’t even believe you’d try to make that point. Ridiculous. Doesn’t apply here. Stastics prove single-motherhood has been a complete failure.

        • legal eagle

          What statistic?

          • EddieD_Boston

            All of them. Like poverty rates, suicide, school dropout, drug dependency….your post is silly.

          • legal eagle

            Nice and unspecific…Where do you get your statistics from Fox News?

          • EddieD_Boston

            Single motherhood has been such a problem than even some liberals are starting to get it. Seriously, if you don’t get his issue you’re hopeless.

          • legal eagle

            So what’s the solution? Greater access to abortion is the obvious solution but of course right wingers are against that..

          • Stimpy

            The solution is personal responsibility and considering the consequences of not using birth control when you are in no position to financially or emotionally support a child that you are about to conceive. Is that so hard to understand? You libs are a real piece of work.

          • redrowan2000

            Obviously an idiotic statement

          • legal eagle

            Poverty and low paying jobs are the problem….

          • redrowan2000

            All knowing idiocy

          • redrowan2000

            Again with the pedantic attitude a true sign of idiocy

          • redrowan2000

            stupidity and idiotic

      • John Daly

        He’s an exception, not the rule.

        • ph16

          Yeah and he misses the fact that no one’s arguing that kids without fathers are automatically screwed up, but they are more likely to live in poverty and have problems than kids without their fathers.

          • John Daly

            Exactly.

          • legal eagle

            So what’s your point? Not allow single women to have babies?

          • John Daly

            Not allowing? No. How about actually spending some time educating and encouraging teens on issues like this. The black community (as with any community) needs role models to influence young minds.

          • legal eagle

            Obviously you’re not a parent…You want role models to encourage teenagers not to have sex?

          • johnfromil

            Yes. There was a time when sexual activity outside of marriage was not condoned. Now with the lack of guidance and morality of the leadership and the population, sexual activity is encouraged. Give you a hint. immorality is still immorality. Immorality has consequences, some immediate and some later, but it has consequences.

          • ph16

            Exactly, it’s the shame piece that is missing here!

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            First of all, I have two children who are in elementary school, but nice guess Miss Cleo.

            Secondly, the most effective school speakers I had when I was in school were those who spoke to us about how poor decisions derailed their lives. Yes, it can help. And I’m not just talking about teenagers having sex.

          • legal eagle

            Well let me know how well your sage advice works when your kids hit 18 and they roll their eyes…

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            18 is too late. It needs to start way before that.

          • redrowan2000

            Perfect parenting idiocy

          • redrowan2000

            No solution would suit my taste idiocy

          • http://1389blog.com/ 1389AD

            How about strongly discouraging it by not offering subsidies of any kind to unmarried parents? How about encouraging adoption instead of the current policy of abortion or multigenerational welfare dependency?

          • Jeff Webb

            Who would adopt a black baby? Better idea would be forced abortion / sterilization

          • ph16

            No, LE, I don’t know how old are you, but my grandmother told me that back in her day, it was a shame to have a baby out of wedlock, but now the new unsung heroine is the unwed mother. Honestly, I don’t think some shame (on both sexes) on having babies out of wedlock wouldn’t be too much of a bad idea.

          • redrowan2000

            Rhetorical idiocy

      • DanB_Tiffin

        “he turned out ok”

        Obama is a textbook codependent as those living through abandonment by a parent frequently are. Common psychology.

        Bill Clinton fits the profile, too as do many many liberals. Transfer neurosis.

      • http://1389blog.com/ 1389AD

        Obama did NOT turn out okay. He was raised by his doctrinaire communist white mother and grandparents, along with a transvestite nanny (no joke!) and an Indonesian Muslim stepfather. No surprise that he grew up with tremendous antipathy toward the US, toward Judaeo-Christian values, and toward white people. He’s basically a psychopath who is being used as a puppet by other psychopaths who are pulling the strings behind the scenes.

        • Franklyn Douglas

          Am I the only person this scared by his posts ?

          • Ed Schultz

            He’s just a cult follower. It is Goldberg and the others who take Koch Bros blood money to write this propaganda who are the real culprits.

          • legal eagle

            Don’t be afraid…1389 AD must be off his meds again..

          • redrowan2000

            Now medical idiocy

    • legal eagle

      What would you propose the government do about single mothers? There are far more white children born out of wedlock than blacks? Got a solution?

      • EddieD_Boston

        Percentage-wise it isn’t even close. Over 70% of black children are born to single mothers. My solution? Stop subsidizing it. Did you read the Heritage Foundations (it think it was them) study that showed an unemployed single mother brings in about $40,000 a year from the taxpayer? Stop that and the numbers go down. Open your eyes and look around at the mess single motherhood has caused.

        • legal eagle

          You are using percentages to make a point not to discuss the issue…There are far more WHITE out of wedlock births than black….
          It’s a mess? So what do you propose doing about it?

          • John Daly

            No, the percentage is absolutely the issue. Raw numbers don’t matter because the white population in this country is far large than the black population.

            Why is such an overwhelmingly disproportionate percentage of black children born to unwed mothers? That’s a serious question, and ignoring it doesn’t help address it.

          • legal eagle

            Percentages are the issue when you want it to be…When you have an illness are you comforted by the fact that only a small percentage of people have that illness? Total nonsense on your part but I realize that repeating a talking point is easier than discussing a fact…
            Tell me again, what’s your solution…Bill Cosby?

          • johnfromil

            The principles of hard work and self reliance need to be taught from the cradle to all Americans. That is what built this country and that is what will allow it to survive.

          • legal eagle

            That’s what the problem is…those cored folks are not practicing these principles?

          • johnfromil

            I did not say anything about race. I said Americans.

          • legal eagle

            What is your point other than spouting a generalization?

          • johnfromil

            Get to work.

          • redrowan2000

            Pedantic idiocy!

          • johnfromil

            It’s an interesting commentary that you made on yourself, that when I was talking about teaching a work ethic to Americans, you automatically assumed I was casting aspersions on the work ethic of the black community. It appears that you are either prejudiced or that you internally believe that the black community has this problem.

          • Stimpy

            No, in large numbers they are not. Not when they deride blacks who actually study and learn as “being like whitey”.

          • redrowan2000

            Wow leftist racism idiocy

          • Stimpy

            Wow, you are dense.

          • Jeff Webb

            >>Percentages are the issue when you want it to be..<<

            No, it's the raw numbers that are the issue when YOU want it to be.

            You gonna seriously claim that Democrats don't look at percentages to determine anything? Not even voting blocs?

            Imagine you're an up & coming filmmaker, and your movie makes $10 million at the box office its opening weekend. The most widely-read entertainment reporters say your movie was a financial disappointment, pointing out that none of the other new releases made less than $20 million. What they didn't report is your movie was distributed to 25% of the theaters and shown on 15% of the screens, of the weekend's biggest seller, and they didn't mention your production cost was 1.5% of the other's.

            So, is it possible that having only numbers without knowing the actual percentages doesn't give you the entire picture?

          • http://johndalybooks.com/ John Daly

            Just a head’s up Jeff. Our buddy “IHF” was posting as both of us earlier today. The problem has been taken care of.

          • Jeff Webb

            Yep, saw the one where I apparently disparaged black people, and the one where you named Zimmerman as a solution for them (to which someone else pointed out the man’s true, admirable track record with black people).

            Thanks for upping my head.

          • redrowan2000

            Name calling idiocy again. Picking up a pattern here?

          • legal eagle

            So our solution is to ask why there is a problem?….LOL

          • redrowan2000

            The question is idiotic

          • EddieD_Boston

            I thought I was very clear. Stop subsidizing it with handouts.

          • floridahank

            One strong thing, is to bring back truly religious beliefs and behavior. Too many churches are not giving the True Gospel to their flock. They talk about finding self-esteem, getting wealth, feeling good — all meaningless things in a corrupt, selfish world. If you are truly a follower of Jesus Christ you will not steal, fornicate, lie, do violence, etc. you will obey the principles of a Holy God. But from what I have researched, 90% of the churches preach empty talks that have little basis In the preaching that Jesus Christ did. Our nation is filled with hypocrites and that is one of the reasons that God is judging us today — seen with all the problems, issues and rising crisis every year. I don’t see it getting any better because we don’t the right kind of leadership who is not afraid to offer God as the answer.

          • legal eagle

            This is your solution…require people go to church? You have researched what 90% of churches preach? Got any other nonsensical statements to make?

          • floridahank

            What would be wrong if all people attended church regularly and adhered to God’s principles? I study human nature and know that won’t happen. Instead the vast majority of humanity create their own “gods” and make their own rules to give them pleasure and material goods. That’s what’s wrong with humanity, it’s one dimensional — thinks of itself as being all there is to life. Well, that’s the reason the world is all screwed up. Nobody really wants to know that Jesus Christ gave us all the answers we need to live a wholesome, productive, spiritual life.

          • redrowan2000

            Anti religion idiotic statements

          • http://1389blog.com/ 1389AD

            I have to wonder what is wrong with the black churches in particular. Are they preaching the Gospel and explaining why the laws of God are given to us for our own good – or are they peddling the leftist line of blame-whitey and blame-the-capitalist-system?

            And why do American blacks typically segregate themselves with regard to church?

          • Franklyn Douglas

            Really ?????????
            I am a retired military black man. And have gone to MANY services on different bases. And for the most part. People go to church with people that not only follow the same faith. But also with people that look like the. It’s always funny to me when white people ask why do blacks stick together. But they never look at their own circle of friends. And ask why they do the same thing. And before everyone in here says….” I have a black friend”. Just think of the tone of the posts on this thread. If you really had black friends, not aquaintances. Most of these post would have more understanding and perspective. It’s easy to say black people should… But when you really know and spend time with black people. You would know that MOST OF US AREN’T KILLERS, DONT MILK THE SYSTEM, HAVE MORALS, ETC. and your tone would be very different.

          • Rachel Maddow

            You may be the first black person who ever posted a comment on this website. And that speaks volumes.

          • redrowan2000

            Again with real numbers and percentages to make an idiotic point of view

      • redrowan2000

        Quit making idiotic statements

  • Wheels55

    I just don’t get the push back against voter ID. Any responsible adult will have a picture ID. You need a photo ID to board a plane, to buy booze, to do a lot of things. How does requiring a photo ID to vote discriminate against minorities?

    • EddieD_Boston

      It’s almost like they have something to hide.

      • legal eagle

        The country is over 225 years old…Why do Republicans now want picture ID’s? To make it harder to vote?
        How much does it cost to get a picture ID? How long do you have to wait at the DMV? How are you going to get to the DMV?

        • Bill Maher

          Banning voter registration? Eliminating early voting? Closing pollling places in minority neighborhoods? Allowing ‘observers’ to challenge any voter? Declaring an address on a black college campus ineligible for voting?

          • legal eagle

            Anyone with a brain understands what’s going on….Others repeat talking points…

          • Bill Maher

            They repeat them because they wrote them.
            Carry on bro. I have had it with these Fascists.

          • redrowan2000

            Thats why the Dems and the Alinskyites are soo good at their idiotic statements

        • redrowan2000

          The negative rhetorical idiocy never stops

    • Skip in VA

      I don’t get it either. I recently went through a series of medical tests as well as a visit to a new (to me) doctor. At every stop along the way, I not only had to show my medical insurance cards but my drivers license as well. Did I feel offended? Of course not. Yet these liberals who are pushing class warfare at every chance, want us to believe that voter I.D. is a bad thing and only Republicans like it. How stupid!

      • Wheels55

        Good point. Does Obamacare state that a photo ID is not needed when seeing a doctor? I doubt it. So, according to liberals, Obamacare must be racist. Imagine that.

      • legal eagle

        Did you show your Medicare card? What do you think would have happened at the Doctor if you had no ID?

        • redrowan2000

          Medical background idiocy?

    • I Hate Fascists

      When you can’t get the photo ID like in North Carolina where if your address is on a black college campus you cannot vote. Period.

    • legal eagle

      You don’t have a constitutional right to board a plane, buy booze or “do a lot of things”….How did the country survive all these years with people voting without ID’s…I know may seniors without ID’s ..They don’t drive, fly and no one asks for their ID when they buy booze..

      • gbandy

        Voter fraud was no so rampant. Explain how Obama got over 140% of votes in certain precincts? Voter fraud is now epidemic.

      • Ksp48

        No, not everyone has a constitutional right to vote (the convicted, the deceased, the non-citizen, the underage for example) and no one has a right to vote more than once. I do have a constitutional right to have the validity and integrity of the vote protected. Perhaps if you helped get IDs for all those people you claim to know without them, you could stop posting your drivel.

      • redrowan2000

        Rhetorical idiocy 101

    • Franklyn Douglas

      I will try to explain this slowly. I as a black man don’t have a problem showing ID.
      HOWEVER …in TX and NC they are going way beyond that. Minutes after the Supreme Court made its ruling. The governors of TX and NC signed into law new rules for voting. The laws had NOTHING TO WITH ID. They cut early voting in half. Early voting has exploded because people are so busy trying to work and run a family. Also a large % of black people vote early. So by cutting this you cut the % of black, minority voters that tend to vote for Dems. They also cut voting stations at colleges in half and even said that school ISSUED ID’s a not valid ID for the purpose of voting. FUNNY THAT THE YOUNG A STRONG DEM VOTING BLOCK. So instead of earning the votes. The repubs just will decrease or make it hard for them to vote. They even have ruled that if your in line to vote when the polls close. You can’t vote. We know that the lines are long, but they don’t care. A recent study shows at it takes on average twice as long to vote in minority communities then it does in white ones.
      I know this is new to most of you. But that’s because the right knows you won’t be fair. They know you don’t care if others rights are violated. It’s the old…ANYTHING TO WIN , RULE.

      • floridahank

        Why don’t more people vote absentee ballot? I’ve done that for the past 4 major elections. My voting place is 5 min. away, but for $1.25 I simply drop it in the mailbox. They send it to me automatically months before the election so I have no problem voting.

        • Franklyn Douglas

          Shhhhhhhh they may try to take that….if the powers that be don’t think your going to vote for them. I too voted that way before. When I was deployed or out of the country while in the military.

        • legal eagle

          Because in a number of states it is difficult to get an absentee ballot….It’s done to suppress the vote…

          • redrowan2000

            Now an expert on voting rights shows their idiocy

      • Wheels55

        Interesting. How is putting your thoughts in writing explaining anything at a certain pace?
        Also, I was talking about a photo ID, not the availability of voting times. I think if the budget allows it, voting hours should be as available as possible, even until midnight.
        Like floridahank, I find absentee ballots much easier. No lines, plenty of time to think through each choice, etc.

        • Franklyn Douglas

          Good point on my pace remark.
          I think the two responses to my post are reasonable and we seem to of like minds on allowing more time and easier ways to vote.
          However most of the time the pundits and elected officials on both sides are being partisan. Instead of doing what’s best for the people and the country or at least our process. BOTH side seek to gain an advantage. And on this voting rights issues that’s what steams me. The right is stacking the deck against the voting block they can’t reach. Instead of rolling up there sleeves and getting to know the potential voters. George Bush got 7% of the black vote and I believe 40% of the Hispanic vote. And since then the right does slick underhanded things like this. We’re not dumb and we don’t forget. I’m 46 and voted for Regan, Perot, daddy Bush and the son once. Because of the mistakes of the Iraq war I did not vote for bush again or Mcain. that is also why I did not vote for Hilliary. I’m sorry but you can’t send us troops to war. Then go OOPS MY BAD, when all the mistakes come to light. Barack Obama is over his head, and screwing up big time. But he’s messing up because he has no clue or bad ideas. The republicans that are trying to deny minorities or the voting block that ignore the right to vote. In my opinion are being evil and I can’t reward that. Don’t tell me you value the constitution , then on the sly deny people you don’t like the right to vote. That’s why I am not a republican anymore. I vote the issues and sadly the lesser of two evils. But I take treating minorities this way as one disrespectful .
          So they better figure it out and stop soon. Or they will totally loose us forever.

      • tool4rage

        Cutting early voting in ½ would affect everyone the same