Tolerant? Broadminded? Really?

Here’s an “exchange of ideas” which took place on Twitter just this past week.  Unlike me and Jeff who use our real names, the “someone who obviously doesn’t agree with me” doesn’t give his or her name on Twitter.  (And for those you aren’t familiar with Twitter, you’re allowed only 140 characters to say something so there’s lots of shorthand.)

ME:  “Delay Execution, But Not Abortion” My thoughts abt #TroyDavis & his defenders vs. rights of the unborn. #tcot #prolife

SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME:  What does execution (murder of a person) have to so with abortion (removal of a zygote that is not a person)? What?

JEFF (Someone who agreed with me):  That is ur opinion. Not mine and definitely not God’s. Bible is my authority n all matters of faith & practice

ME:  I agree with you Jeff. Life begins at conception.

ME:  Article was abt delays in executions but those who won’t support laws which provide abortion waiting periods.

ME:  I’m guessing most abortions occur way past the zygote stage.

SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME:  A zygotic lump of tissue is not a person, regardless of how much you pray to your make-believe gods for it to be one.

SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME:  You’ve no epistemological principles. A ‘holy book’ & old men in costumes aren’t argument or evidence.

SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME:  No gods exist. Thinkers exist. A consensus among persons (developed adults, see? You lame fuck) who think refutes you

JEFF:  WoW u wld think with all the knowledge u have u cld come up w/better name calling than that. So much 4that 😉

SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME:  Thanks for the flattery? But you silly old god fanatics, if you haven’t overcome indoctrination by now,you never will

SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME:  You creep, go terrorize some more women like the coward you are.

ME:  Be sure to thank your mother every day for being #prolife. Enjoy your life.

SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME:  You sick hag. Talking about people’s mothers like you know them? You will never achieve your theocratic nonsense in the USA.

SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME:  I ask you, in return, to thank YOUR mother, but you’re old and there is no afterlife, so that cannot logically occur EVER.

ME (I just couldn’t help myself):  I wish I knew your name so I could pray for you.

SOMEONE WHO OBVIOUSLY DOESN’T AGREE WITH ME:  The ragged thing wants to know my name? Choose a name from history. Choose from the millions murdered by your execrable faith

I write opinion articles.  They’re just that.  My opinions.  That’s why they’re called “I Don’t Get It.”  I expect people not to agree with me.  That’s ok.  If you really don’t like my opinions, and you can find the time within your busy schedule running law practices in Washington and California as I do, then write your own blog.  What I really don’t get is why the personal attacks on my age?

My simple opinion reduced this coward on Twitter, who hides behind his “witty” little moniker, to a 6-year old schoolyard bully.  It reminded me of an attorney I was up against who was losing terribly and  resorted to saying, when the case was recessed until after the Thanksgiving holiday, “see you Monday, tubby.”

I get all the left-wing input I need from the news media, magazines, tv shows and newspapers.  I look to Twitter for some refreshing right of center ideas.  I follow about 800 conservative people and I have about the same number of people who follow me.  I read dozens and dozens of tweets every day and I can’t remember one single incident in the last year when I’ve seen this kind of language and exchange by a fellow conservative.

But for someone who obviously doesn’t agree with me who identified himself/herself as a liberal atheist, I would’ve expected broad-mindedness, enlightenment and tolerance – after all, isn’t that what Roget suggests in his description of a liberal?

I’m not saying this guy or gal is typical of all liberal atheists.  I know a few and they live far better moral lives than some church-going religious people I know.  But this type of vitriol is very common.  Every time I turn around, I’m labeled as a racist, homophobe, idiot, and, now, old sick hag for the policies and beliefs to which I subscribe.  Generally, none of it bothers me, but I draw the line when I’m called a “hag”!

I don’t get it, but if you do, God bless you.

Author Bio:

For over twenty years, Leona has tried to heed her husband’s advice, “you don’t have to say everything you think.” She’s failed miserably. Licensed to practice law in California and Washington, she works exclusively in the area of child abuse and neglect. She considers herself a news junkie and writes about people and events on her website, “I Don’t Get It,” which she describes as the “musings of an almost 60-year old conservative woman on political, social and cultural life in America.” It’s not her intention to offend anyone who “gets it.” She just doesn’t. Originally from Brooklyn, and later Los Angeles, she now lives with her husband, Michael, on a beautiful island in the Pacific Northwest, which she describes as a bastion of liberalism.
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  • Red

    Once again, I do not know why such a close-minded, uncompromising, selfish, hateful group of people are called “liberals”. The only thing they are liberal with is other people’s money.

    • Roger Ward

      Good one! “The only thing they are liberal with is other people’s money.” How true!!

  • Dave W

    Nice to see you communicating with one from the tolerant left.

  • Ron F

    I dont have a Twitter account or follow it so I have no idea of what the dialogue is like on it. My experience is that their are idiots and intolerance on all sides of the political debate. My guess is that there are a lot of liberals complaining about the intolerance and close-mindedness of conservatives although I do not read any liberal blogs or go to any liberal websites. I am not sure we can generalize about the lack of intolerance on the left because of what some liberals say. By the same token, I do not think liberals can generalize about conservatives because of what some conservatives say. It would be interesting to see if any liberal bloggers have had similar experiences with conservative commentators.

  • Clarence De Barrows

    The thought of contributing something called a “Tweet” to “Twitter” is less than titillating.

  • DOOM161

    I doubt he’s an atheist, despite what he may claim. I’m willing to be he follows the religions of Global Warming and Darwinism more faithfully than the Pope follows Catholicism.

    Now, mind you, I have no problem with either of these theories, but their most ardent supporters approach them as you would a religion, refusing to even acknowledge that there might be evidence that contradicts them.

  • Shirl

    I’m also in your age range, Leona and have the bumps and bruises to prove it. Sure wish I knew at 24 what I know now. I was clashing with liberals back then but didn’t even know it. I thought they were just plastic and alot of pretense but didn’t know there was a name for it. Just knock that monkey off your back and keep on writing. There are more people that agree with you.

  • RecknHavic

    The next-to-most reason I don’t blog much at Leftist blog sites is the vitriol they hurl at anyone who doesnt agree w/ them. The MAIN reason I don’t comment on those types of blogs often is that they censor the heck outta most conservative opinion.

    In fact Id welcome any suggestions of some Lib/Left sites to debate on that don’t censor conservative thought. Hell, even the Weather Channel blog site censors most of my comments. It’s indisputable that Right-leaning sites allow a much more open, uncensored, flow of arguments from all points of view.

  • Paul Borden

    When many, if not most, liberals run out of arguments. they tend to start name-calling. Happens darn near every time. You should look up a book from the 1950s called “I Led Three Lives.” At the back of this counter-spy’s story, he lists the differences between a communist and a liberal. I really believe today’s liberals are very much closer to being in the communist category than the traditional liberal group..

    • Bob Hadley

      “When many, if not most, liberals run out of arguments. they tend to start name-calling.”

      This sort of thing is not uncommon amongst ideologues of all persuasions, even conservatives and even those proclaiming themselves Christians. Examples of this can be found in the Comments section on this website.

      BTW: I wouldn’t bother with the above twit, even, or especially, if I agreed with her….Or maybe it was a him.

      I suspect that the definition of “liberal” refers at least as much to a thinking process as it does to various conclusions. If you adhere to the conclusions without going through the thought process, then you’re not a liberal in the classical sense.

      To paraphrase Steve Jobs, ideologues of all persuasions are functioning on others’ thinking.

  • Nancye

    I don’t “twitter” nor am I on Facebook, but I AM here, and I use my real name, plus I love your articles. PLease keep on keeping on.