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Bernard - That was good old fashion journalism, between two people really worth listening to. Bill dominates this kind of discussion (always has) and Bernard gave him space to air his views. Bernard looked like a deer in the headlights, shocked and surprised when Bill gave the death notice to main stream broadcast TV media. Bill gave excellent back-up for his prediction of the demise of broadcast media CBS, NBC, ABC, plus CNN, and MSNBC. The news print media former giants are already zombies. TV demographics are shifting fast, older viewers are being replaced (or not) and so they are losing viewers and seem incapable of changing with the times toward the subscription model that Fox Nation is developing. The old and biased broadcast TV media giants will be rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic for the next few years until they go under the waves. Personally, I have difficulties with podcasts that aren't regular enough for me (Bernard I'm talking to you). But at almost 70, I'm part of that disappearing demographic Bill O'Reilly referenced. BR

Bob Ricketts

Aliso Viejo CA

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