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Trump is a "victim?" Oh good grief!

Happy Thanksgiving Mr. Goldberg and Mr. Daly.

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Thanks! Same to you, Dave!

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One name you guys left off the list of potential Democrat candidates for 2024 - Gavin Newsom. I don't like the guy, but he is a darling of the Democratic Party, and he has been dropping hints that he may want to run. So, here's a prediction: 2024 will be DeSantis vs Newsom. Happy Thanksgiving, Bernie and John!

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Happy Thanksgiving to you too! I'll add this to Friday's Q&A for Bernie to weigh in on.

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Competency? Low inflation. Energy independence, control over the southern border, Mideast peace progress. Vindictive? After BS harassment, and malicious prosecution.. yea right, go with your belief system.. your people shaped public opinion before the elections.. none of your’s or Bernie’s arguments prosecuted these political forces affecting public opinion. Right wing media has nothing to do with it. Nothing.. stop with the confirmation bias. Bad temper and all, Trump was better for us than the rest. (Don’t forget, CBS news is on tonight.)

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Yes, like Biden, Trump was incompetent.

He treated the pandemic like a joke (to the point where advisors were begging him to stop going to COVID press briefings). He added almost $8 trillion to the national debt in just 4 years (most of it during a period of record tax revenue). He publicly accepted the lies of tyrants like Putin and Jong-un over the conclusions of U.S. intelligence agencies. He started an idiotic, completely pointless trade war that hurt our country more than any other, raised U.S. taxes, increased U.S. subsides, and is making our current inflation problem worse than it needs to be (along with Biden's idiocy, including Biden's reluctance to end Trump's tariffs). He did absolutely nothing on the border during his first two years in office (when he had GOP House and Senate majorities), thus he had to resort to flinging around executive orders for fencing (which, as Biden has demonstrated, can't even stand up to the careless rhetoric of the next president). He tried to use congressionally approved security funding to extort a foreign ally for political dirt. And his ego, after he lost the 2020 election, compelled him to try to overturn U.S. democracy while his dangerous rhetoric caused a deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol.

If not for Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, and the rest of the GOP establishment handing him wins on tax reform and judges, what would be his defining achievement as president?

>>After BS harassment, and malicious prosecution..

Every president is unfairly harassed, including the guy before Trump whose legitimacy as president was challenged by conspiracy theories regarding where he was born. The trick is to call it out, regardless of which party that president is in... as I did when it was Trump. https://www.bernardgoldberg.com/p/muellers-findings-good-for-america-bad-for-partisan-hacks

As for malicious prosecution, you'll have to be more specific. What prosecution?

>>go with your belief system..

My belief system? I'm an intellectually honest and consistent conservative. I don't live in the right-wing bubble you seem to. So yeah, I'll continue 'going' with that.

>> your people shaped public opinion before the elections..

Your people? I don't know what that means, but if you think I've shaped public opinion in any meaningful way, you're delusional. Heck, I haven't supported/voted for a presidential candidate who went on to win for almost 20 years now.

>>none of your’s or Bernie’s arguments prosecuted these political forces affecting public opinion.

Seriously dude? Do have any idea how many critical columns Bernie alone has written on the political forces affecting public opinion, including during Trump's four years in office?

>>Right wing media has nothing to do with it.

Right-wing media has quite a bit to do with shaping public opinion, as you exhibit.

>>stop with the confirmation bias.

All you've been presenting in this exchange is your confirmation bias.

>>Bad temper and all, Trump was better for us than the rest.

Bad temper? He literally tried to overturn U.S. democracy and denied our country, for the first time ever, of its peaceful transfer of power. He caused a deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol. In that stuff alone, there's a far more compelling argument one can make that Trump was the worst president in U.S. history.

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I see, no evaluation of 2018, 2020, and 2022 under the rubric of squelched stories of collusion BS, Covid disruption, emergency use edicts, and the rise of ballot harvesting against state law, along with the squelched story of Biden’s son. No evaluation. The average person knows little to nothing about such things. Like your old outfit, Bernie, they confused the electorate and always cast doubt, and discredit. As for Murdoch and others, there’s an old adage, “whose bread they eat is whose song they song.”

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Thomas, I'll add this to Friday's Q&A for Bernie to answer.

As for my take, we evaluated those elections on this website at the time, in addition to several times since. What you're listing are mostly right-wing media excuses for why the GOP suffered big losses. If Trump had governed with competency (especially during the pandemic), and not acted like a vindictive crybaby at every opportunity, he'd likely still be president today, and the Republicans would at least hold the Senate. It's not as if the Democrats have proven themselves to be a strong alternative.

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GOOD MORNING GENTLEMEN,

I LOVED THIS EPISODE AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHERS. WITHOUT ANY POLITICAL COMMENTS, I WOULD LIKE TO WISH YOU BOTH AND YOUR FAMILIES A WONDERFUL THANKSGIVING AND GOD BLESS YOU.

DAMON A RUNYON

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Thanks Damon. Happy Thanksgiving to you too!

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