Bout' sums it up! Great article that hits hard at those of us riding the fence on voting for the "lesser of two evils". For those that say to me " If you don't vote, you have no right to complain," I will use your " crap sandwich" analogy. Thank you!
Amen! It’s lonely being in the group of few who still care about principles instead of what’s all the rage on both sides. Yes it’s lonely, at times depressing and I’m pretty sure I’ve lost friends over it but the hell with it. These people are the reason we’re in this political wasteland, not us. I hope someday they all will see how embarrassingly they acted towards their friends and family over this. Although I’m not holding my breath
Ok, John, don't hold things back, tell us how you really feel about this ongoing fecal festival. 😉
I share your overall weariness at the "binary choice" mongers claiming we actually have a moral and ethical obligation to bite into their version of what's at best an andouillette. (A French sausage made from the large intestines of pigs, that is notorious for smelling like the colonic contents. 🤢)
I have also been banging on my rhetorical high chair for a while, mostly in comment sections on a certain site once hosted by Substack that rhymes with Miss Hatch, about how I really don't see how such rhetoric would even work to persuade fence sitters. I can't think of any successful marketing campaign that starts out by insulting the prospective customers.
So John - being the righteous professed conservative stickler withholding your vote to register your opinion of this election's candidates, you've decided to not vote, the equivalent of taking your marbles and going home. Even though - at least one of these Presidential candidates ran the nomination course beginning to end. and beat all challengers. But in your mind, the Jan6 Democratic one sided fantasy crushes everything. And you are entitled to your opinion.
So, who would you vote for this year, if you could waive a righteous wand? (Please, please don't say 2020 losers Halley, Christie, or traitor Les Cheney).
>>So John - being the righteous professed conservative stickler
Aka, a dude choosing not to eat crap.
>>withholding your vote
Only from unfit candidates. I'm still voting.
>>to register your opinion
No, to exercise my right to vote for an individual fit for office.
>>you've decided to not vote
No, I'm definitely voting.
>>equivalent of taking your marbles and going home
No, the equivalent of not handing over my marbles to a bozo.
>>Even though - at least one of these Presidential candidates ran the nomination course beginning to end.
I'm supposed to be impressed that a crap party nominated a crap candidate who was afraid to debate his primary opponents?
>>But in your mind, the Jan6 Democratic one sided fantasy crushes everything.
No, Donald Trump was unfit for office before January 6, and also before he tried to overturn U.S. democracy. Those events just proved it beyond all doubt.
>>So, who would you vote for this year, if you could waive a righteous wand? (Please, please don't say 2020 losers Halley, Christie, or traitor Les Cheney).
I'd vote for any of those people. They're fit for office.
Here's why I'm voting for Trump. If Harris wins, which she probably will; she will raise taxes unless stopped by a GOP house and senate. Because that's what Dems do- they raise taxes. That for me is the bottom line. And if Trump gets it and tries another J6 in 2028; if you go out there, you deserve what you get. But guaranteed if Harris wins and enough Dem congressional people are elected; the first thing they will do is raise taxes. And then everything else will go back to the way it was before these last three months. The number of immigrants crossing the border will go back to the number it was, there will be another 70,000 fentanyl deaths a year, and "Bidenomics" will falter. Because the Dems will have gotten what they really want. In the 90's I made $10.00/hr ie. $800.00 a month, which was substinance, above minimum wage. THE CLINTON AFMINISTRATION TOOK OUT 1/3 of my paycheck for taxes! That's when I learned.
- both candidates are proposing raising taxes (U.S. tariffs are taxes on Americans).
- both candidates' economic proposals are awful, though independent scores (which Brian R. and I talked about earlier this week) show Trump's will add more debt than Harris's, as well as drive inflation higher than hers.
- The GOP will finally win the Senate majority. The only real question is how big of a majority they'll have. This would be a major obstacle for any new taxes Harris would try to push through, and I think a GOP Senate, with Trump sidelined, would actually push through James Lankford's bipartisan border bill that she's been saying for months that she'll sign.
It's true that Trump's proposed tariffs on all good (as stated by Brian R) would result in higher consumer prices for all and function as sort of an independent sales tax. But Trump's tax cuts are on the line, which would be stripped away if Harris were elected and could push through her tax agenda. Nevermind the INCREDIBLE tax hikes she has planned, that would, in my opinion; throw this country into economic free fall. If Trump were elected, he would extend his tax cuts. Ya, always another J6 possibility in 2028. So no matter how much he hollers in 2028 if he loses, ignore him. Don't go out there. Takes two to tango. We have free choice. I loved Brian Riedl's plan and have studied it somewhat since then. Tell you what Brian, make the Dems follow through on cuts to the entitlements if Harris is elected-get it as a Supreme Court ruling for all I care. Then we'll talk removing Trump's tax breaks and raising taxes.
John, I feel your frustration! But, vote or not, you too will have crap stuck in your teeth, anyway. Not voting is not immunity from the crap-sandwiches. The two are cringingly horrible, noted, but the machines backing them are not equal.. this is where the devastation will come from. You can't possibly believe impaired Biden made any decisions, or that the Cackling imbecile would be making any. The Dem machine enabled 10s of millions of ILLEGALS to descend on our country, drove inflation through the roof, enabled rampant crime (which the FBI quietly adjusts stats after lying), sent $billions for non-winnable wars to one of the most corrupt places in the world, are forgiving $billions in student loans (what!!).. on and on. In the meantime we must "pay our fair share" whatever that is?! And the Cackler promises to give $billion more away to buy votes at our expense.
If this corrupt machine stays in power, "Adios America!" Dem party has been entirely highjacked by dangerous morons.
Oh both of these candidates will put us in a world of hurt for sure... if they do what they've been campaigning on doing. I wish the parties would have nominated fit individuals, but neither did.
I do, in fact, believe Biden made decisions. Mostly bad ones. Harris and Trump have, and will, make bad decisions too.
I'm with you on the border. Regarding inflation, Ukraine, etc., I recommend you watch my interview with Brian Reidl this week.
Thank you for the reply. I'm a fan who watches most of your shows. We disagree occasionally, but it's shades of gray kind of disagreement.
Here's a shade of gray... Biden made no "meaningful" decisions. The Dem Machine absolutely knew he was diminished, a 10 year old could see that (and, perhaps the main reason he was installed). The young Biden illustrated, repeatedly, he had NO compass or morals... he was a perfect candidate. To think that Pelosi, Schumer. Obama... etc., said, after the election. "ohhh, shucks Biden has dementia!" NO way! Whatever anyone thinks of the Dem Machine, they are neither stupid, nor gullible. They knew!
Fast forward to 2020-2024, Biden can't read simple two-syllable word teleprompter! Sure, he decided when to go to his beach house (sarcasm intended), but he did not, for example, decide to kill Trump's boarder, executive order. He was told. He couldn't pronounce his own "Bidenomics" bs, much less conceive any of it. He decided on nothing consequential.
But, think of the trainwreck the Dem Machine is reaping on the nation! Absolute invasion by illegals; the WOKE idiocy is over the top... woman's reproductive rights--but men are women too, transgender for kids--it's hypocrisy and insanity; AGs enabling rampant crime; $billions thrown at anything that buys votes... and if you point out any of this, you are a racist, xenophobe (insert latest accusation) and the WOKE mob comes after you.
How does any of this make sense to reasonable people?
The "orange" man pisses me off too! I can't watch his repeated embellishments and middle school name calling... it's embarrassing. If he wasn't such a narcissist he'd have someone competent write his speeches, he'd READ them, then shut up and get off the stage! He rambles on for 2 hours, gives 5 mins of content, and 1 hour 55 mins of 50 caliber ammunition to legacy media to trash him for the next month. Why!? The man is the embodiment of "your own worst enemy."
Unlike diminished Biden, these two will make decisions. I agree with you. One of them stands for NOTHING we know of, has ZERO record on doing anything at all, and flips at a blink of an eye. The other, at least, ran the country for 4 years, and it was pretty good... a heck of a lot better than what is going on now!
We must look past the cartoon characters and vote for a Machine that will serve us better. If anyone thinks that's the "current" Dems, well, "Adios America"... but perhaps they don't see it that way, or think that America must change. And, you can think that in "free" America... for now. Be very careful what you wish for!
You must put a clothespin on your nose and vote, John! It does stink to high heaven... I'll give you that.
I do think Biden has made "meaningful" decisions. The Afghanistan withdrawal immediately comes to mind. I don't think progressives strong-armed him into that. That said, Biden has of course bent the knee on a number of occasions to the left-wing of his party.
>>To think that Pelosi, Schumer. Obama... etc., said, after the election. "ohhh, shucks Biden has dementia!" NO way! Whatever anyone thinks of the Dem Machine, they are neither stupid, nor gullible. They knew!
I think the Democratic establishment knew in 2020 that Biden had lost a step. I believe it would have been a leap, at that point, to believe he had dementia. A couple years later? Yeah, the suspicions should have been VERY strong.
>>he did not, for example, decide to kill Trump's boarder, executive order.
I do think Biden was pandering to the left with his softer language on the border, which is actually what caused most of the problem. The policy changes themselves weren't nearly as significant as the messaging.
>>But, think of the trainwreck the Dem Machine is reaping on the nation!
Like I said, I'm largely with you on the border. But it's worth remembering that things like wokeness, men-are-women, transgender kids, etc. all shot through the roof WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT. Same with all the rioting we saw in 2020. Do I blame Trump for that? No, not at all. But when I hear such things attributed to the "Dem Machine," I have to roll my eyes. This stuff exploded when the Dems had much less power than they do now. And right now, I think wokeness is actually in slow decline. We have an inclination in this country to blame whatever developments we don't like on the "other" political party. In some cases, it's true. But I think a lot of things have much more to do with a cultural pendulum swinging back and forth, than political parties and political leaders.
>>The "orange" man pisses me off too! I can't watch his repeated embellishments and middle school name calling... it's embarrassing. If he wasn't such a narcissist he'd have someone competent write his speeches, he'd READ them, then shut up and get off the stage! He rambles on for 2 hours, gives 5 mins of content, and 1 hour 55 mins of 50 caliber ammunition to legacy media to trash him for the next month. Why!? The man is the embodiment of "your own worst enemy."
True, but what I've consistently noticed (and you did it again here) is that seemingly reluctant Trump supporters ALWAYS minimize Trump's shortcomings to that of an off-putting personality and rhetorical missteps... when those are the very least of his problems. The guy literally tried to overturn a U.S. election — our very system of democracy. He caused an insurrection at the U.S Capitol that got people killed, injured almost 150 cops, and ruined people's lives (which he did nothing for hours to try and stop). He treated a global pandemic as if it were a joke. He showed off U.S. nuclear secrets and war-plans to random people at his country club, and is under criminal indictment because he not only refused to give them back, but obstructed their retrieval. He's hinting that he'll abandon Ukraine, whose leader he tried to extort for political dirt using congressional approved defense funding. He's running on economic policies that will further explode the national debt, and drive consumer prices even higher (his economic scores are even worse than Harris's). Yet, the only concessions his supposedly reluctant supporters will ever make is that his personality and rhetoric do him no favors politically? The position reeks of bad faith.
>>One of them stands for NOTHING we know of, has ZERO record on doing anything at all, and flips at a blink of an eye.
I agree.
>>The other, at least, ran the country for 4 years, and it was pretty good
I think Paul Ryan's tax bill, Gary Cohn's regulation reforms, and Mitch McConnell's judicial efforts account for about 80% of what I would call "pretty good" about Trump's time in office. At the executive level, I think Trump did a lot of harm to the country.
>>We must look past the cartoon characters and vote for a Machine that will serve us better.
What machine? From Trump's last machine, 40 of the 44 cabinet secretaries refuse to support his 2024 campaign. Same with his vice president and all of his chiefs of staff. Half of those people outright call him “dangerous” to the country, and have shared jaw-dropping stories of having to regularly steer him away from his worst instincts (several of which were illegal). That machine no longer exists. Trump's current machine is made up almost entirely of sycophants and yes men who will only feed his worst instincts.
>>You must put a clothespin on your nose and vote, John!
I always vote. What I won't do is vote for someone who's glaringly unfit.
>> I do think Biden has made “meaningful” decisions…
We both have opinions on Biden’s "meaningful" decisions. I'm looking at 50 years of this man's public service (satire intended) and wonder, what did he do for the country? It's hard to find anything because he's a repugnant DC swamp creature who’s a famous flip-flopper, was accused of plagiarizing at one point, and has been a subject of countless controversies... although legacy media has buried all this, deep. We see videos when he's caught off guard, is befuddled and the next moment Jill is walking him off stage. Gee, I hope he was NOT making decision! The problem is that the decision influencers are hell bent on destroying traditional America.
But perhaps many Americans really don’t want traditional America anymore? Again, be careful what you wish for.
>> What machine?
Use whatever word… machine, establishment, apparatchiks… it doesn’t matter. Let’s see… 97% of legacy media, 80% of the university professors, all (except X) social media, Soros, Zuckerberg (formerly)… etc. are in the tank for the Dem party. Anyone steps out of line… the CANCEL CULTURE kicks into overdrive.
Meanwhile MILLIONS of illegals are pouring in … and what is the Dem party doing??
“ Federal judge in Virginia (today 25 Oct) ordered the commonwealth to place non-citizens back on its voter rolls. The judge ruled that removing the registered voters from the rolls violated federal law, WRIC reported.”
And you say, “what machine.”. You can’t be serious? If there was NO machine all this would be 50/50 because the country is 50/50 Dem/Republican.
>> The guy literally tried to overturn a U.S. election..
We are in stark disagreement here. That is simply not true. He was maybe slow to condemn the infiltration, but he urged his supporters to be peaceful and requested the National Guard on the 5th because he had no power to stop it… Pelosi and Bowser did! Four people died. Two were ruled natural, one from amphetamine overdose and the fourth a homicide by police officer… USA Today reported.
>> Half of the people call him [Trump] "dangerous" to the country..
Nearly 100% of legacy media, universities, social media are all propaganda machines for the Dem party. Hmmm, only “half of the country” calls him “dangerous?”
But MILLIONS of illegals pouring in, while Dem party is blocking any legal action against this insanity, is not dangerous?
Want to talk about DANGEROUS! It is unconscionable what the Dem party is doing to the country.
Bout' sums it up! Great article that hits hard at those of us riding the fence on voting for the "lesser of two evils". For those that say to me " If you don't vote, you have no right to complain," I will use your " crap sandwich" analogy. Thank you!
Amen! It’s lonely being in the group of few who still care about principles instead of what’s all the rage on both sides. Yes it’s lonely, at times depressing and I’m pretty sure I’ve lost friends over it but the hell with it. These people are the reason we’re in this political wasteland, not us. I hope someday they all will see how embarrassingly they acted towards their friends and family over this. Although I’m not holding my breath
Ok, John, don't hold things back, tell us how you really feel about this ongoing fecal festival. 😉
I share your overall weariness at the "binary choice" mongers claiming we actually have a moral and ethical obligation to bite into their version of what's at best an andouillette. (A French sausage made from the large intestines of pigs, that is notorious for smelling like the colonic contents. 🤢)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andouillette
I have also been banging on my rhetorical high chair for a while, mostly in comment sections on a certain site once hosted by Substack that rhymes with Miss Hatch, about how I really don't see how such rhetoric would even work to persuade fence sitters. I can't think of any successful marketing campaign that starts out by insulting the prospective customers.
So John - being the righteous professed conservative stickler withholding your vote to register your opinion of this election's candidates, you've decided to not vote, the equivalent of taking your marbles and going home. Even though - at least one of these Presidential candidates ran the nomination course beginning to end. and beat all challengers. But in your mind, the Jan6 Democratic one sided fantasy crushes everything. And you are entitled to your opinion.
So, who would you vote for this year, if you could waive a righteous wand? (Please, please don't say 2020 losers Halley, Christie, or traitor Les Cheney).
BR
Bob Ricketts Aliso Viejo CA
>>So John - being the righteous professed conservative stickler
Aka, a dude choosing not to eat crap.
>>withholding your vote
Only from unfit candidates. I'm still voting.
>>to register your opinion
No, to exercise my right to vote for an individual fit for office.
>>you've decided to not vote
No, I'm definitely voting.
>>equivalent of taking your marbles and going home
No, the equivalent of not handing over my marbles to a bozo.
>>Even though - at least one of these Presidential candidates ran the nomination course beginning to end.
I'm supposed to be impressed that a crap party nominated a crap candidate who was afraid to debate his primary opponents?
>>But in your mind, the Jan6 Democratic one sided fantasy crushes everything.
No, Donald Trump was unfit for office before January 6, and also before he tried to overturn U.S. democracy. Those events just proved it beyond all doubt.
>>So, who would you vote for this year, if you could waive a righteous wand? (Please, please don't say 2020 losers Halley, Christie, or traitor Les Cheney).
I'd vote for any of those people. They're fit for office.
You might want to update your chatBot code to include a spell check, Bob...
Here's why I'm voting for Trump. If Harris wins, which she probably will; she will raise taxes unless stopped by a GOP house and senate. Because that's what Dems do- they raise taxes. That for me is the bottom line. And if Trump gets it and tries another J6 in 2028; if you go out there, you deserve what you get. But guaranteed if Harris wins and enough Dem congressional people are elected; the first thing they will do is raise taxes. And then everything else will go back to the way it was before these last three months. The number of immigrants crossing the border will go back to the number it was, there will be another 70,000 fentanyl deaths a year, and "Bidenomics" will falter. Because the Dems will have gotten what they really want. In the 90's I made $10.00/hr ie. $800.00 a month, which was substinance, above minimum wage. THE CLINTON AFMINISTRATION TOOK OUT 1/3 of my paycheck for taxes! That's when I learned.
A few things of note:
- both candidates are proposing raising taxes (U.S. tariffs are taxes on Americans).
- both candidates' economic proposals are awful, though independent scores (which Brian R. and I talked about earlier this week) show Trump's will add more debt than Harris's, as well as drive inflation higher than hers.
- The GOP will finally win the Senate majority. The only real question is how big of a majority they'll have. This would be a major obstacle for any new taxes Harris would try to push through, and I think a GOP Senate, with Trump sidelined, would actually push through James Lankford's bipartisan border bill that she's been saying for months that she'll sign.
It's true that Trump's proposed tariffs on all good (as stated by Brian R) would result in higher consumer prices for all and function as sort of an independent sales tax. But Trump's tax cuts are on the line, which would be stripped away if Harris were elected and could push through her tax agenda. Nevermind the INCREDIBLE tax hikes she has planned, that would, in my opinion; throw this country into economic free fall. If Trump were elected, he would extend his tax cuts. Ya, always another J6 possibility in 2028. So no matter how much he hollers in 2028 if he loses, ignore him. Don't go out there. Takes two to tango. We have free choice. I loved Brian Riedl's plan and have studied it somewhat since then. Tell you what Brian, make the Dems follow through on cuts to the entitlements if Harris is elected-get it as a Supreme Court ruling for all I care. Then we'll talk removing Trump's tax breaks and raising taxes.
John, I feel your frustration! But, vote or not, you too will have crap stuck in your teeth, anyway. Not voting is not immunity from the crap-sandwiches. The two are cringingly horrible, noted, but the machines backing them are not equal.. this is where the devastation will come from. You can't possibly believe impaired Biden made any decisions, or that the Cackling imbecile would be making any. The Dem machine enabled 10s of millions of ILLEGALS to descend on our country, drove inflation through the roof, enabled rampant crime (which the FBI quietly adjusts stats after lying), sent $billions for non-winnable wars to one of the most corrupt places in the world, are forgiving $billions in student loans (what!!).. on and on. In the meantime we must "pay our fair share" whatever that is?! And the Cackler promises to give $billion more away to buy votes at our expense.
If this corrupt machine stays in power, "Adios America!" Dem party has been entirely highjacked by dangerous morons.
Oh both of these candidates will put us in a world of hurt for sure... if they do what they've been campaigning on doing. I wish the parties would have nominated fit individuals, but neither did.
I do, in fact, believe Biden made decisions. Mostly bad ones. Harris and Trump have, and will, make bad decisions too.
I'm with you on the border. Regarding inflation, Ukraine, etc., I recommend you watch my interview with Brian Reidl this week.
Thank you for the reply. I'm a fan who watches most of your shows. We disagree occasionally, but it's shades of gray kind of disagreement.
Here's a shade of gray... Biden made no "meaningful" decisions. The Dem Machine absolutely knew he was diminished, a 10 year old could see that (and, perhaps the main reason he was installed). The young Biden illustrated, repeatedly, he had NO compass or morals... he was a perfect candidate. To think that Pelosi, Schumer. Obama... etc., said, after the election. "ohhh, shucks Biden has dementia!" NO way! Whatever anyone thinks of the Dem Machine, they are neither stupid, nor gullible. They knew!
Fast forward to 2020-2024, Biden can't read simple two-syllable word teleprompter! Sure, he decided when to go to his beach house (sarcasm intended), but he did not, for example, decide to kill Trump's boarder, executive order. He was told. He couldn't pronounce his own "Bidenomics" bs, much less conceive any of it. He decided on nothing consequential.
But, think of the trainwreck the Dem Machine is reaping on the nation! Absolute invasion by illegals; the WOKE idiocy is over the top... woman's reproductive rights--but men are women too, transgender for kids--it's hypocrisy and insanity; AGs enabling rampant crime; $billions thrown at anything that buys votes... and if you point out any of this, you are a racist, xenophobe (insert latest accusation) and the WOKE mob comes after you.
How does any of this make sense to reasonable people?
The "orange" man pisses me off too! I can't watch his repeated embellishments and middle school name calling... it's embarrassing. If he wasn't such a narcissist he'd have someone competent write his speeches, he'd READ them, then shut up and get off the stage! He rambles on for 2 hours, gives 5 mins of content, and 1 hour 55 mins of 50 caliber ammunition to legacy media to trash him for the next month. Why!? The man is the embodiment of "your own worst enemy."
Unlike diminished Biden, these two will make decisions. I agree with you. One of them stands for NOTHING we know of, has ZERO record on doing anything at all, and flips at a blink of an eye. The other, at least, ran the country for 4 years, and it was pretty good... a heck of a lot better than what is going on now!
We must look past the cartoon characters and vote for a Machine that will serve us better. If anyone thinks that's the "current" Dems, well, "Adios America"... but perhaps they don't see it that way, or think that America must change. And, you can think that in "free" America... for now. Be very careful what you wish for!
You must put a clothespin on your nose and vote, John! It does stink to high heaven... I'll give you that.
>>Biden made no "meaningful" decisions
I do think Biden has made "meaningful" decisions. The Afghanistan withdrawal immediately comes to mind. I don't think progressives strong-armed him into that. That said, Biden has of course bent the knee on a number of occasions to the left-wing of his party.
>>To think that Pelosi, Schumer. Obama... etc., said, after the election. "ohhh, shucks Biden has dementia!" NO way! Whatever anyone thinks of the Dem Machine, they are neither stupid, nor gullible. They knew!
I think the Democratic establishment knew in 2020 that Biden had lost a step. I believe it would have been a leap, at that point, to believe he had dementia. A couple years later? Yeah, the suspicions should have been VERY strong.
>>he did not, for example, decide to kill Trump's boarder, executive order.
I do think Biden was pandering to the left with his softer language on the border, which is actually what caused most of the problem. The policy changes themselves weren't nearly as significant as the messaging.
>>But, think of the trainwreck the Dem Machine is reaping on the nation!
Like I said, I'm largely with you on the border. But it's worth remembering that things like wokeness, men-are-women, transgender kids, etc. all shot through the roof WHILE TRUMP WAS PRESIDENT. Same with all the rioting we saw in 2020. Do I blame Trump for that? No, not at all. But when I hear such things attributed to the "Dem Machine," I have to roll my eyes. This stuff exploded when the Dems had much less power than they do now. And right now, I think wokeness is actually in slow decline. We have an inclination in this country to blame whatever developments we don't like on the "other" political party. In some cases, it's true. But I think a lot of things have much more to do with a cultural pendulum swinging back and forth, than political parties and political leaders.
>>The "orange" man pisses me off too! I can't watch his repeated embellishments and middle school name calling... it's embarrassing. If he wasn't such a narcissist he'd have someone competent write his speeches, he'd READ them, then shut up and get off the stage! He rambles on for 2 hours, gives 5 mins of content, and 1 hour 55 mins of 50 caliber ammunition to legacy media to trash him for the next month. Why!? The man is the embodiment of "your own worst enemy."
True, but what I've consistently noticed (and you did it again here) is that seemingly reluctant Trump supporters ALWAYS minimize Trump's shortcomings to that of an off-putting personality and rhetorical missteps... when those are the very least of his problems. The guy literally tried to overturn a U.S. election — our very system of democracy. He caused an insurrection at the U.S Capitol that got people killed, injured almost 150 cops, and ruined people's lives (which he did nothing for hours to try and stop). He treated a global pandemic as if it were a joke. He showed off U.S. nuclear secrets and war-plans to random people at his country club, and is under criminal indictment because he not only refused to give them back, but obstructed their retrieval. He's hinting that he'll abandon Ukraine, whose leader he tried to extort for political dirt using congressional approved defense funding. He's running on economic policies that will further explode the national debt, and drive consumer prices even higher (his economic scores are even worse than Harris's). Yet, the only concessions his supposedly reluctant supporters will ever make is that his personality and rhetoric do him no favors politically? The position reeks of bad faith.
>>One of them stands for NOTHING we know of, has ZERO record on doing anything at all, and flips at a blink of an eye.
I agree.
>>The other, at least, ran the country for 4 years, and it was pretty good
I think Paul Ryan's tax bill, Gary Cohn's regulation reforms, and Mitch McConnell's judicial efforts account for about 80% of what I would call "pretty good" about Trump's time in office. At the executive level, I think Trump did a lot of harm to the country.
>>We must look past the cartoon characters and vote for a Machine that will serve us better.
What machine? From Trump's last machine, 40 of the 44 cabinet secretaries refuse to support his 2024 campaign. Same with his vice president and all of his chiefs of staff. Half of those people outright call him “dangerous” to the country, and have shared jaw-dropping stories of having to regularly steer him away from his worst instincts (several of which were illegal). That machine no longer exists. Trump's current machine is made up almost entirely of sycophants and yes men who will only feed his worst instincts.
>>You must put a clothespin on your nose and vote, John!
I always vote. What I won't do is vote for someone who's glaringly unfit.
We're going to disagree on a few things here.
>> I do think Biden has made “meaningful” decisions…
We both have opinions on Biden’s "meaningful" decisions. I'm looking at 50 years of this man's public service (satire intended) and wonder, what did he do for the country? It's hard to find anything because he's a repugnant DC swamp creature who’s a famous flip-flopper, was accused of plagiarizing at one point, and has been a subject of countless controversies... although legacy media has buried all this, deep. We see videos when he's caught off guard, is befuddled and the next moment Jill is walking him off stage. Gee, I hope he was NOT making decision! The problem is that the decision influencers are hell bent on destroying traditional America.
But perhaps many Americans really don’t want traditional America anymore? Again, be careful what you wish for.
>> What machine?
Use whatever word… machine, establishment, apparatchiks… it doesn’t matter. Let’s see… 97% of legacy media, 80% of the university professors, all (except X) social media, Soros, Zuckerberg (formerly)… etc. are in the tank for the Dem party. Anyone steps out of line… the CANCEL CULTURE kicks into overdrive.
Meanwhile MILLIONS of illegals are pouring in … and what is the Dem party doing??
“ Federal judge in Virginia (today 25 Oct) ordered the commonwealth to place non-citizens back on its voter rolls. The judge ruled that removing the registered voters from the rolls violated federal law, WRIC reported.”
And you say, “what machine.”. You can’t be serious? If there was NO machine all this would be 50/50 because the country is 50/50 Dem/Republican.
>> The guy literally tried to overturn a U.S. election..
We are in stark disagreement here. That is simply not true. He was maybe slow to condemn the infiltration, but he urged his supporters to be peaceful and requested the National Guard on the 5th because he had no power to stop it… Pelosi and Bowser did! Four people died. Two were ruled natural, one from amphetamine overdose and the fourth a homicide by police officer… USA Today reported.
>> Half of the people call him [Trump] "dangerous" to the country..
Nearly 100% of legacy media, universities, social media are all propaganda machines for the Dem party. Hmmm, only “half of the country” calls him “dangerous?”
But MILLIONS of illegals pouring in, while Dem party is blocking any legal action against this insanity, is not dangerous?
Want to talk about DANGEROUS! It is unconscionable what the Dem party is doing to the country.
"2020 losers Halley, Christie, or traitor Les Cheney." Did any of these individuals run for president in '20? By the way, who is Les Cheney?
>>By the way, who is Les Cheney?
He has some bugs in his programming.