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>>It can't matter that much if you don't vote.

Again, I am voting. I always vote. And I guarantee that I've participated far more deeply, and invested many more hours (and probably money), in my country's electoral process than you have in yours.

>>What you "feel like" and what's on the table are two different things.

Really? Biden won my state by 14 points. Harris will also win it by double-digits. I can "feel" however I want about that, but my presidential vote still won't matter to the outcome.

>>That's like saying "I feel like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers should win, but I'm not going to the game, not putting money on the game, not watching the game, & hence, have no skin in the game."

Didn't you just annihilate your own argument with that?

>>Unless you and Bernie think that not voting is somehow being invested in the process

Why do you keep saying I'm not voting? We've discussed this several times before, as well. I've voted in every presidential election of the last 25 years.

>>you don't really have a leg to stand on regarding the outcome.

I, in fact, don't have a leg to stand on regarding the outcome, nor does any other individual in my deep blue state.

>>Sometimes life offers you a set of bad choices, but of the choices that matter, opting out or doing nothing

Neither of which I'm doing.

>>just means you are letting other people decide the outcome.

Other people are, in fact, deciding the outcome. They're called swing states.

And as I've stated a kazillion times, the root problem is with the parties. They keep choosing terrible candidates, when there are lots of good, viable alternatives.

>>Sounds like Bernie and yourself are OK with that.

Sounds like you have forgotten everything I've ever written about how I choose to vote, as well as how the electoral college works. Weird.

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>That's like saying "I feel like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers should win, but I'm not going to the game, not putting money on the game, not watching the game, & hence, have no skin in the game."

Didn't you just annihilate your own argument with that?

No, he didn't

In his example, FDM doesn't rally care who wins, but has a vague preference for TBB. If TBB loses, as we say in Hawaii, it ain't no big ting brah.

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Well maybe I might have.

Sorry if that's the case.

Bernie's stated he isn't voting. So the comments apply to him as well as anyone else not voting. Which crap sandwich are you buying? Mmmm.

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"Bernie's stated he isn't voting. So the comments apply to him as well as anyone else not voting. "

Here, Bernie's situation may be more nuanced, at least in the 2016 election. He stated on at least one occasion that although he couldn't vote for Trump, he hoped Trump would win by a landslide.

Bernie, Did you want Trump to win in a landslide in 2020? Do you want Trump to win in a landslide this time? Why would you want someone you won't vote for to win in a landslide?

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